How much is enough?

Nick Douglas

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yyz,

Millions have tried but you cannot beat the odds. You think you are the only one who has come up with that theory? There are probably hundreds of thousands of gamblers, if not millions who at one time or another thought, "Well, since I go up at some point almost every time, if I just set smaller goals, I will win over time."

Wrong. You cannot beat mathematical odds unless you turn the advantage in your favor (counting cards). If you count cards, you can absolutely win at blackjack. Read Stanford Wong's books, he will tell you how. But the simple fact is that if you play enough blackjack, that 1.5% is going to get you eventually.

The whole problem is control. In poker or sports, you have enough control over your decisions to overcome a 10% vig or a table charge in poker. Essentially you are playing against other players and the house is taking a percentage, so if you beat the other players badly enough, you can win.

Unless you count cards, you have no control. You are relying on luck. I don't care what strategy of hitting, staying, raising or lowering of bets you have, in the end you are relying on luck up against a 1.5% house advantage. If you count cards well and have discipline, then you can beat that 1.5%. It is tough, but it can be done. If you do not count cards effectively, you are effectively paying for entertainment.

On a side note, I used to go to Oneida all the time, too. The ride by the prison on the way up kinda gave me a certain calm before entering. Good luck up there yyz. I hope you are lucky enough to beat the odds, I really do. Just please do not encourage more gamblers to have realistic hope of using blackjack as anything but paid entertainment. You are doing them a disservice by doing so.
 

yyz

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Nick,

I am hardly encouraging anyone else to gamble. This is what I feel. I have never once in this thread said, "Go out and do it!"

The thing with blackjack is, I do have the information and knowledge to play the game well. With sports, it is far too difficult to cull that information. Who's hurt? Who's not up to par today? The line is out of whack. Etc.

I know what works for me, and cards provide a greater opportunity for me to turn a profit than sports do.

I would never tell someone that they can't make money betting sports, just because I can't. That would not be fair. Although you may be right that I would lose over the long run playing cards, I know for a fact that I would rather put my bankroll on cards than sports.
 

dawgball

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My system--if you want to call it that--goes like this.

If I start with $150, I obviously am willing to risk $150. My goal is to make a 33% profit in a session. BUT, I don't stop at $50. I go until I get up $75 (total of $225) and stash $200. I play with the $25 until it is gone (up $50) or until I turn it into $100. Then I stash $50. I continue this until I go broke after a stash.

This way if I get up $75 or 50%, I will not walk away a loser.

I am by no means saying this is a good system. It is a way for me to put a cap on what I can lose in a session, but not limit myself to what I can win in a session.

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