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a few early 72 holes @ $plays

Singh +110 over Mick
Estes +110 over Flesch
Dimarco -105 over Appleby
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---and adding early outright to place @ Skybet
Hoch 12/1

Thought about 66/1 E/W @ 365 as these odds are quite generous for one who has finished no worse than 12th here in last 5 years and has had 2 top 5's including win in 6 events this year.
 
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Took some early 1 ew 33/1 about Toms(365), mainly because it looked a big price, he was winner 2001 and 9th last year, but dropped away a bit tamely last weekend after getting into nice position..though he is from Louisiana!!
 

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Ogilvy, 50/1, runner-up last year and in great form.
Beem ,100/1, bit of a longshot but played well at Augusta where he was T1 for GIR.
Rollins ,80/1, 6th at Bellsouth which is a similar course. 16th here last year.
 

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Like your home cookin also Steved. If I could have got 8/1 place would have went in a heart beat.
Didn't have Stans stats on early 72 hole plays and was looking at Flesch and he looks like he could be a live one also. Could never pull yrigger on him before because of his final rd dumps but got 4 top tens with no final rd over 71 so may give him a look in the morning.
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adding 72 holes
Flesch -110 over Kuehne @ 365 (ties lose)

--a little insurance,maybe now that Hank has his card he'll ease up a little. Was just looking @ 5dimes and they have odds reversed on Early plays.Should take the scalps and call it a week.:)
This is a little amusing. Got a little ledger of notes that I did off season and have top 15 notations highlighted> One was "Weir no top tens in 2003 fade till otherwise" Cost me 3 wagers and I think I might finally cross that out today as it is embarrassing seeing it when reviewing each week.:lol:
 
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DTB, I had 'not for outrights' on Couples until the last month. Crossed it out just in time :lol:


Outright plays (1 unit):

Phil Mickelson to win 12/1 e.w. @ Olympic and Sirbet [.5 units to win; .5 units to 'show']
Very difficult player to call the right week, but if he can reproduce any of the form he showed at the Masters or in any of his three top-10 finishes this year, he should go very close. Nicklaus-designed courses are perfect for his game. The wide fairways attract power-hitting off the tee and the greens reward his high ball flight. It took a great weekend performance by Toms two years ago to deny him victory and this could be the week he makes amends.

David Toms to win 25/1 e.w. available generally
Toms had won four times on Tour before his 2001 victory in this event, but it was the way in which he beat Mickelson that really propelled Toms to the fore on the PGA Tour. Three months later he would win the PGA Championship, again in a head-to-head with Mickelson, and then wrapped up the Michelob Championship at the end of the season. Apart from being held in his home State, this event has good memories for Toms and this week should see a much greater effort from him. He has played very well in the WGC Match Play and the Masters and was in a good position at the cut last week before fading away. That shouldn't happen this week.

Stewart Cink to win 40/1 e.w. @ Ladbrokes
Not such a great record in this event. He missed the cut in 1997 and finished 31st last year, but he was in poor form at the time having missed three of his last four cuts. The contrast could not be starker this year with three top-10 finishes in his last four starts so a much better finish is expected this year. Would have looked for place-only odds, but after Boom-Boom last week and Ladbrokes' stand-out price, will hope for another unexpected win.
 

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Milpalm - Rich Beem is 125/1 at Ladbrokes!


Stuart Appleby 40/1 Paddy Power
A player who seems to string his good performances together in short bursts so worth trying after his runner-up spot last week. Decent course form with an 11th and 10th on his 3 previous visits.

Davis Love 8/1 Paddy Power
I cannot see any reason to desert Davis after 3 wins this year and a previous win on this course. Must be worth a saver at least
 

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Matchup plays (1 unit unless stated):

Len Mattiace to beat John Daly -111 @ Boyle [2 units]
Daly surprised many with his top-10 finish last week - in seven previous starts this year, he had yet to finish in the top-50 of any event. But with a record of two missed cuts and a 51st position in his three previous visits over ten years, there seems little reason to expect another good week from him. Will easily side with a player who finished 2nd in the Masters earlier this month.

Steve Flesch to beat Robert Gamez -118 @ Easybets
Flesch has been in good form of late, securing three top-10 finishes in his last five starts. Still no top-5 positions so he continues to frustrate in terms of outright betting, but he is fairly dependable for matchups. With finishes of 2nd, 2nd and 6th from 1998 to 2000 on this course, this could be another close week. Not expecting so from Gamez who has missed the cut twice and finishes 74th on his only other visit to English Turn in ten years. He obviously avoids this course and with good reason, so is easily opposed.

Fred Funk to beat Robert Gamez -111 @ Ladbrokes
Opposing him with Funk who is not typically suited to Nicklaus-designed courses, but has made the cut in four of five visits and in all but one (of 12) starts in 2003. Looks set to grind his way to victory in this matchup.

Kirk Triplett to beat Harrison Frazar -125 @ BetInternet
Both players have a good history at English Turn. Frazar had three top-5 finishes from 1999 to 2001, while Triplett has three top-10s and only one missed cuts in his last ten visits, but Frazar's game is in disarray and Triplett's if firmly not. While Frazar has failed to finish in the top-60 in any of his last seven events, Triplett has had a succession of top-15s this season, including 2nd in the Bay Hill Invitational last month.

Charles Howell to beat Geoff Ogilvy -133 @ Easybets
There is a tempting case for Ogilvy in the outright markets this week - he has finished in the top-10 in his last two events and was 2nd last year, but Howell is simply the better player and should, on average, win this matchup many more times than not. He has finished 16th and 7th in this event without a round over par, whereas Ogilvy missed the cut in 2001 following a 2nd round 80. The Australian could have another great week, though he should need one to finish ahead of Howell.
 

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wow Surprised its still there> going to take a little
Mattiace -111 over Daly also @ Boyles

Despite this course being touted for big hitters last years top 5 rate 50-71-110-117 and 180 in driving distance this year:confused:
 

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DTB,
How do you like Boyle? Thought about signing up with them but they dont take Neteller, but could always use another out.
 

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T.U. I like em so far. Signed up because of there place options but they throw in a few clinkers now and then also. Its a bitch they dont take Neteller.I snail mailed them 1/2 cash and 1/2 check. Wanted to be ready to fire but was afraid of theft with cash but had no prob. Took about month for check to clear.

a couple 1st rd's
Foresman -110 over Duval (-1/2 stroke)@ WSEX
Duval scor ave last 4 events 77+ and Foresman a 4th here last year.Tee off in same group so should get fair shake with weather.

Tripp -110 over McCarron @ $plays
Trip better rated-better before cut scor ave-am vs pm tees with about 8mph wind difference projected
 

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When I signed up with Boyle a couple of months ago, I was able to post up with a debit card within minutes -- you might be able to avoid a lengthy mail-induced delay.

Still, It's irritating that they don't take neteller.
 

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It is good news that they take US-backed debit cards, though I presume it is just restricted to Visa Electron. That may be an option for other Euro books as well.

One way to avoid a lengthy delay with cheques is to send a cheque in sterling. It is the banking system over here that takes up to a month to clear a cheque in a foreign currency so if it could be done at source, then it would spped up matters considerably.


1st round update: 1-2-0; -1.10 units

Appleby/McCarron LOST by 1
Beckman/Baird LOST by 1
Funk/Franco WON by 2

2nd round plays (1 unit):

Stephen Ames to beat Jeff Sluman +102 @ Five Dimes
Briny Baird to beat Fred Funk +115 @ Sirbet
Billy Mayfair to beat Paul Stankowski -120 @ Five Dimes
 

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Hate to do credit card on net if I can avoid.Good heads up on the Sterling thing Stan as I never thought of that.Last year tried to apply for Euro CC (solo or something like that ) just for Euro books but it looked like it was going to be pain in the ass so quit.
I have a Citi Bank bank international account to mail funds to other countries,wonder if one could use that some way?

1st rd results 2-0
Foresman -110 over Duval (-1/2 stroke)@ WSEX Win
Duval hit a whooping 14% of fairways.Forseman played poorly but Duval worse.
Tripp -110 over McCarron @ $plays Win

2nd rd plays
Howell -155 over Brooks @ $plays
Mick -110 over Howell @ WSEX

To lose both, Brooks rated (117) (courtesy of Stans stats) will have to beat both Mick (1) and Howell (6)
Thus I think giving up -155 not out of line.

on added note looks like WSEX abandoned their 1/2 stroke lines today. I sure hate to see that.
 

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at the cut 2nd rd 1-1 72 holes 1-0 3 pending
2nd rd Mick/Howell win
Howell/Brooks loss
72 holes
Mattiace/Daly win (WD)
pending
Singh/Mick 4 up
Estes/Flesch 5up
Dimarco/Appleby 3up

One thing about fading Daly is you always a chance till he hits the final putt.:lol: Nice spot Stan or I'd have missed it.

Outrights Hoch--gone
 

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3rd rd
Again no outrights to add as Oly has really skimmed place bets past 2 weeks. If there was some wind project might give Slu a shot but hard to make up ground in these conditions,will wait and see if anything tomorrow.

matches
Sluman -107 over Ogilvy @ 5dimes
Has 2+ shot 3rd rd scor ave adv.

Flesch -125 over Westfield @ 65 (ties los3)
Strickly fade on Westwood.

Williamson -125 over Yancy @ 365 (ties lose)
Prior to this tourney Yancy had only one rd below 71 in 15 ops.
Almost a 100 point rating difference.Have to peak at this one despite ties lose.
 
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