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I'm laying in emergency....six-five ....HE related is why I'm here.
With my weak immune system, caused by liver problems....not a place to be

Damn, IE, really thought you would have a new liver by now. You have been on the list in Canada for it seems like over a year with HE???? We wish you the best in securing one soon.
 

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Clint, how is a liver transplant recipient determined? It would seem a year with this would more than take precedent??


Almost always for children with some sort of liver disease, somebody with NASH (Non-alcoholic Steato Hepatitis), or somebody with Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease. I?m no expert on liver transplants, but I do know the criteria is exceptionally strict. I have had two liver transplant patients in my career who improved with the liver transplant and fully recovered but then destroyed their livers again with alcohol. Think about it like this... transplant surgeons like their numbers to look good. They are going to have input and choose recipients who statistically have the best chance to get better with a transplant. Anybody who is/was a habitual drinker has a poor chance to make the transplant cut. People also have a better chance if they don?t have other chronic illnesses that could complicate recovery. Also, sadly, I have heard and read that money talks in regards to if you are on the bottom or top of the transplant list.

I don?t know IE?s medical/social history (other than liver failure), so I can?t speak to where he is on the list or if he has even applied. It might also be different in Canada. It would be great if he was a candidate BC it can definitely be a life-changing procedure.
 

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Almost always for children with some sort of liver disease, somebody with NASH (Non-alcoholic Steato Hepatitis), or somebody with Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease. I?m no expert on liver transplants, but I do know the criteria is exceptionally strict. I have had two liver transplant patients in my career who improved with the liver transplant and fully recovered but then destroyed their livers again with alcohol. Think about it like this... transplant surgeons like their numbers to look good. They are going to have input and choose recipients who statistically have the best chance to get better with a transplant. Anybody who is/was a habitual drinker has a poor chance to make the transplant cut. People also have a better chance if they don?t have other chronic illnesses that could complicate recovery. Also, sadly, I have heard and read that money talks in regards to if you are on the bottom or top of the transplant list.

I don?t know IE?s medical/social history (other than liver failure), so I can?t speak to where he is on the list or if he has even applied. It might also be different in Canada. It would be great if he was a candidate BC it can definitely be a life-changing procedure.

Thanks Clint, not sure of IE's past, but might be the case. Sounds like you need to either have millions or have a crystal clear past. Just hope it works out. :0008
 

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I also have Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease in addition to the complication of HE.
Haven't had a drink in 11 years.
Total of 288 on the wait-list currently.
Alot depends the blood type match.Lots of other factors go towards the transplant.
You have to take into account after the transplant the anti-rejection pill you take everyday for the rest of your life, much like chemo.
your body has to accept it.
The liver is complex and effects around 100 parts of your body.
At this point my 4 specialists do not think i should go the transplant route.
I will go long periods of no problems, the HE strikes with no warning.
Have keep the bad toxins from my blood. Lots of lactulose and shittin and other pills is imperative.

sorry if confusing..im just writing down thoughts as i go.
 

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also, thanks for the prayers and well wishes...it doesn't go unnoticed.
 

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I also have Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease in addition to the complication of HE.
Haven't had a drink in 11 years.
Total of 288 on the wait-list currently.
Alot depends the blood type match.Lots of other factors go towards the transplant.
You have to take into account after the transplant the anti-rejection pill you take everyday for the rest of your life, much like chemo.
your body has to accept it.
The liver is complex and effects around 100 parts of your body.
At this point my 4 specialists do not think i should go the transplant route.
I will go long periods of no problems, the HE strikes with no warning.
Have keep the bad toxins from my blood. Lots of lactulose and shittin and other pills is imperative.

sorry if confusing..im just writing down thoughts as i go.

just damn......stay strong our friend, every day can get better, we hope.
 

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If your liver stops working, so do you.

The liver is a resilient organ that?s easy to ignore ? until something goes wrong. Because of its wide-ranging responsibilities, your healthy liver can come under attack by viruses, toxic substances, contaminants and diseases. However, even when under siege, the liver is very slow to complain. People who have problems with their liver are frequently unaware because they may have few, if any, symptoms. Your liver is such a determined organ that it will continue working even when two-thirds of it has been damaged.
 

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MELD score chart

Score Three-month mortality risk
Less than 9 1.9 percent
10?19 6.0 percent
20?29 19.6 percent
30?39 52.6 percent
Greater than 40 71.3 percent


currently mine is 18.0



CPT score chart


Score Class Two-year survival rate
5?6 A 85 percent
7?9 B 60 percent
10?15 B 35 percent

currently mine is 7.0 (B)

a liver transplant can add years to their life expectancy. The higher someone?s MELD score is, the more likely they are to die within three months. This can move them higher up the list of those waiting for a liver transplant.

The Pugh-Child score is determined by scoring five clinical measures of liver disease. A score of 1, 2, or 3 is given to each measure, with 3 being the most severe. ... serum albumin: blood protein produced in the liver. prothrombin time, prolongation(s) or INR: time for blood to clot.

they won't consider transplant until MELD score of 32.0-34.0
 
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