I can listen to these famous words for a looooooong time.

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Crow- I don't know where you're coming from, because your assumptions are from wayyyy left field. The majority here know that Kimbo and most importantly, ELITEXC couldn't afford to fix a Kimbo fight, unless it were for him to win. If you just watched the executives reactions during the fight, you'd understand that.

Don't come on here with all that Boxing bullshit because MMA is a better sport, more exciting sport, and Boxing has been a joke for years. The comparison is laughable. Maybe in boxing alot of money is to be made with fixing fights, but MMA has so much more to lose at the high level if fights were fixed.

 

[kegray1]

I know at least one.:nono:

I never saw 1 single person in this forum pick Kimbo to beat Seth. I saw plenty say he would beat Ken(me included). Once it was announced that Seth was the replacer(hell even before it was officially announced) people were wanting to know odds on Seth(See EliteXC Event forum). AND SAYING KIMBO HAD NO CHANCE.

Find me one person who said Kimbo was the play once it was announced that he was fighting Seth.:mj03:

 

[crow]

Don't come on here with all that Boxing bullshit because MMA is a better sport, more exciting sport, and Boxing has been a joke for years.

Whether or not people on this board bet Slice is irrelevant; if odds are proposed, bets are layed down, you can't expect me to know who did what.

And please, go tell Lennox Lewis and De La Hoya boxing is a joke. These guys could buy a thirld world country with their ring winnings; which MMA star can say likewise ?

I don't consider MMA a better sport at all, and i barely watch it. Often it's gruesome and it even horrifies me.
They feel sometimes obliged to call the events "PRIDE", when actually the skiils in display are often appaling, and you get the impression you're watching a free for all bar fight.

I'm not after the MMA in any case;if you enjoy it then all the better.I know i don't; it's more a curiosity than anything alse for me.

Since i wager on sports, i'm after the fixed games, in MMA, Boxing, and any other sports. I believe these forums are the appropriate place to discuss sports corruption.

If a MMA fan made the same accusations as me, would you too have a go at him as you do now ?

 

[THE KOD]

looked like the fix was in to me.

Kimbo goes down with a cut over his eye.

Dont even try to get up.

Allows him to punch him out in 30 sec :mj07:

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

looked like the fix was in to me.

Kimbo goes down with a cut over his eye.

Dont even try to get up.

Allows him to punch him out in 30 sec :mj07:

You realize how many MMA fights end up like this? When you get hit in the right spot, it will keep you down. I don't know how many times I've seen fighters think they're ok, yet they're trying to shoot on the referee LOL

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Whether or not people on this board bet Slice is irrelevant; if odds are proposed, bets are layed down, you can't expect me to know who did what.

And please, go tell Lennox Lewis and De La Hoya boxing is a joke. These guys could buy a thirld world country with their ring winnings; which MMA star can say likewise ?

I don't consider MMA a better sport at all, and i barely watch it. Often it's gruesome and it even horrifies me.
They feel sometimes obliged to call the events "PRIDE", when actually the skiils in display are often appaling, and you get the impression you're watching a free for all bar fight.

I'm not after the MMA in any case;if you enjoy it then all the better.I know i don't; it's more a curiosity than anything alse for me.

Since i wager on sports, i'm after the fixed games, in MMA, Boxing, and any other sports. I believe these forums are the appropriate place to discuss sports corruption.

If a MMA fan made the same accusations as me, would you too have a go at him as you do now ?

Clearly, you're very unaware of the sport itself. Bar room brawl? These guys are professionally trained. Some guys started when they were 4-5-6 years old. Whether it's a background in wrestling, jujitsu, muaythai, judo, kickboxing, karate, boxing, etc...It's not like these big organizations are giving anyone who can walk and talk a shot.(Believe it or not, Kimbo is trained since joining) They're trained athletes and they know what they're doing and how to handle themselves. The referee's are as well.

If you don't consider MMA the better sport, that's fine, but boxing has moved over, and MMA is bigger and better...you're just going to have to accept that.

Two final things, the "PRIDE" comments shows your obvious lack of knowledge. So please, don't comment on a sport you are pretty much 100% clueless on.

As for an MMA fan, bring them on, I'm more than willing to argue that last nights fight was not fixed. I just don't think you understand WHY it simply couldn't be. There was alot more money to be lost then won with a fixed fight, and for alot of reasons you wouldn't understand.

 

[dawgball]

There was quite a discussion here on the fix being in with the Griffin-Jackson title fight. There, at least, was a legitimate argument as to why that would be fixed. Even though I feel it was not due to the downside risk involved. But I think that somewhat proves that the guys on this board on not blind to the possibility.

The theory of a fix on the Kimbo fight holds zero water and probably does not warrant any other comments.

Imagine that: a boxing fan accusing MMA of being crooked. :142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

That's classic!!

 

[kickserv]

Yes, I think I have said it 200 times in this thread....if you think Kimbo fight was fixed then you have no idea what you are talking about. It is like arguing with somebody who says human beings don't need oxygen to survive:142smilie


And for the record, boxing makes figure skating and gymnastics look corruption free:142smilie


Anybody that thinks the Kimbo fight was a fix has no idea what they are talking about. See link above with the Elite XC execs reaction:SIB

 

[weepaul]

I'm sorry Crow, you really do know your boxing but you have this fight wrong.

Every person on this board bet Seth including me. I made a much smaller bet than normal as I thought the fix was in.

I was SURE they had fixed it for Kimbo to win.

Elite is going down the shitter.
Kimbo is their poster child.
Kimbo losing to an unknown (in the general public) guy on national TV is a Fuk up of epic proportians.

I have also seen Kimbo get decked by a jab in one of his backyard fights. His chin is not as solid as it looks.

 

[rawli007]

Joe Rogan giving his prediction right before Kimbo Slice vs. Seth Petruzelli.

http://mmamania.com/2008/10/05/joe-...slice-vs-seth-petruzelli-elite-xc-main-event/

:142smilie

 

[Ghost Kid]

Rogan predicts the outcome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHG8nPvegO0

 

[kickserv]

Rogan........gotta love him:SIB

kickserv man crush on GSP and Rogandance1

 

[dawgball]

Why in the hell is he watching this in a toolshed?

I have a man-crush on Rogan, myself. :scared

 

[Ghost Kid]

From Monsters in the Morning via BloodyElbow via CagePotato reader ?Adam S?:

Seth Petruzelli: My originial plan was to throw a lot of push kicks, they?re called teeps?have him think that I?m going to throw ?em to try to rush in more, and then shoot in on him, obviously?I knew I would do alright standing up with him. The promoters kinda hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn?t want me to take him down. Let?s just put it that way. It was worth my while to try and stand up and punch with him.

Petruzelli says he was paid ?in the six-figure range? for accepting the main event fight on Saturday and will be re-negotiating his contract for his next EliteXC fights. I bet the next time EliteXC offers a guy money to stand and trade with Kimbo, they?ll be a little clearer about the objective: Don?t shoot for a takedown, but also don?t knock him out with an off-balance jab. (You?d think that would be implied.) We definitely suggest listening to the rest of the ?Monsters? interview, where Seth describes the moment where he knew he had Kimbo beat, what he said to the athletic commissioner afterwards, and the chances of Kimbo/Seth II (and Tito/Seth I). Entertaining stuff?

 

[kegray1]

Why in the hell is he watching this in a toolshed?

It looks more like a mens bathroom at a questionable bad restaurant. Rogan is either drunk or on drugs in the video. I think he might be drunk and about to buy drugs based on the scene.

Very strange video.

 

[dawgball]

I think he might be drunk and about to buy drugs based on the scene.

:142smilie :mj07: :142smilie :mj07:

 

[rawli007]

It looks more like a mens bathroom at a questionable bad restaurant. Rogan is either drunk or on drugs in the video. I think he might be drunk and about to buy drugs based on the scene.

Very strange video.

No doubt Rogan is high as hell. He and Eddie Bravo are major stoners..... and best buds.

In the intro to Eddie Bravo's book "Mastering the Rubber Guard" he and Joe Rogan both go into detail about how mary jane have changed their lives... and jiu jitsu games.

Eddie Bravo mentions in his DVD that he has a prescription for the bud.... there is also an "extra" in which Bravo gives instruction on how to use a vaporizer. Here is the trailer to his dvd (weed included):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcCiUfSfAFg

There have been times i suspected Rogan to be high while commentating.... dont bother me none.. he does a great job.

:weed:

 

[Blackman]

Ok I've watched the video a bunch of times and just don't understand what made Slice go down to begin with. I fullly understand that it was in no ones interest for Kimbo to lose so I'm not claiming any sort of fix, but I can't imagine that initial blow rung his bell that bad, did it?

It certaintly wasn't Liston from 65, but Kimbo really went down with minimal contact.

 

[crow]

I have also seen Kimbo get decked by a jab in one of his backyard fights. His chin is not as solid as it looks.

One can judge a chin by the size of the neck; guys with big necks ( like Holyfield, Bert Cooper, Tyson) have "shock absorbers" enabling them to take shots better than those with narrow necks ( altough there are notable exceptions with fighters with small necks having granite chins)

If one has one of those big necks, unless he has absorbed tremendous punishment ( and Slice never got hit by real pros) can hold a punch pretty well.

The blow was a grazing one, and it was an arm blow with no weight behind it; Kimbo fell like he was shot and didn't try to get up .

I'm not the only one believing it was a dive; google " kimbo slice took a dive" and see for yourselves.

 

[kickserv]

Crow.....I can't belive despite all of the evidence you still think it is a dive.....I mean come on buddy....did you read all the links posted above.....hello:scared


Read this:


http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_y...9Eo14?slug=dw-kimbo100508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns




and for fu**s sake crow......read this:


http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mm...t=Anyw7ogOq6hryUony7YEBfY9Eo14?urn=mma,112987




I mean.......you have to be on crack if you think he took a dive........Kimbo just plain sucks.