(I GOT TO HAND IT TO NASA)
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BOYS THE MISSION IS ON FOR TOMORROW MORNING AT 10.22 I LOVE NASA THEY SAID WE DONT CARE IF WE CANT FIX THE SMALL PROBLEM WE ARE BLASTING THESE MIS FITS INTO SPACE.I WONDER HOW THE ASTRONUTS ARE SLEEPING TONIGHT KNOWING THERE IS A PROBLEM BUT NOBODY CARES THIS MISSION IS GOING TOMORROW END OF STORY :scared
DOES ANYBODY OFFSHORE HAVE ODDS ON THIS MISSION I WANT TO TAKE THE UNDER 2 1/2 MINUTES BEFORE DISASSTER STRIKES.WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO SAFETY FIRST IN THE SPACE PROGRAM I CANT BELIEVE THE MAN IN CHARGE SAID THIS MISSION WILL GO ON AS SCHEDULED EVEN THOUGH WE DONT THINK WE FIXED THE PROBLEM WHAT KIND OF ANSWER IS THIS.
DOES ANYBODY OFFSHORE HAVE ODDS ON THIS MISSION I WANT TO TAKE THE UNDER 2 1/2 MINUTES BEFORE DISASSTER STRIKES.WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO SAFETY FIRST IN THE SPACE PROGRAM I CANT BELIEVE THE MAN IN CHARGE SAID THIS MISSION WILL GO ON AS SCHEDULED EVEN THOUGH WE DONT THINK WE FIXED THE PROBLEM WHAT KIND OF ANSWER IS THIS.
The death knell was Bush promising Americans that the US would send a man to the Nova. I would be ripping off my helmet and boots right then and there. BTJ nailed this one. I pray it gets out of sight. Bush is hopping around barefoot over the coals and could use a distraction
12 minutes to launch
Hope everything goes ok.
I can't imagine the feeling of being strapped to the Shuttle with all the history behind them, and sitting on top of enough fuel to
run a small city for a day or two.
God Bless them. And God Bless America.
Hope everything goes ok.
I can't imagine the feeling of being strapped to the Shuttle with all the history behind them, and sitting on top of enough fuel to
run a small city for a day or two.
God Bless them. And God Bless America.
So far, so good. That was somethin"
New camera angle on the side. Awesome when the main tank was let go.
nole
New camera angle on the side. Awesome when the main tank was let go.
nole
I certainly hope everyone comes back ok, but if not you'll be hearing the old joke- What does NASA stand for.............. need another seven astronauts
NASA Halts Shuttle Flights Over Foam Issue By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer
36 minutes ago
SPACE CENTER, Houston - NASA grounded future shuttle flights Wednesday because a big chunk of insulating foam flew off Discovery's fuel tank during liftoff ? as it did in Columbia's doomed mission ? but this time apparently missed the spacecraft.
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"Until we're ready, we won't go fly again. I don't know when that might be," shuttle program manager Bill Parsons told reporters in a briefing Wednesday evening.
He and other managers do not believe the flying debris that snapped off the external fuel tank harmed Discovery, threatening a safe return of its seven astronauts.
"Call it luck or whatever, it didn't harm the orbiter," Parsons said. If the foam had broken away earlier in flight ? when the atmosphere is thicker, increasing the acceleration and likelihood of impact ? it could have caused catastrophic damage to Discovery.
"We think that would have been really bad, so it's not acceptable," said Parsons' deputy, Wayne Hale. He said every indication so far is that Discovery is safe for its return home.
The loss of a chunk of debris, a vexing problem NASA thought had been fixed, represents a tremendous setback to a space program that has spent 2 1/2 years and over $1 billion trying to make the 20-year-old shuttles safe to fly.
The piece of foam flew off Discovery's redesigned tank just two minutes after what initially looked like a perfect liftoff Tuesday morning. But in less than an hour NASA had spotted images of a mysterious object whirling away from the tank.
Mission managers did not realize what the object was ? or how much havoc it would cause to the shuttle program ? until Wednesday after reviewing video and images taken by just a few of the 100-plus cameras in place to watch for such dangers.
Officials do not believe the foam hit the shuttle, but they plan a closer inspection of the spacecraft in the next few days to be sure.
Discovery's astronauts were told of the foam loss before going to sleep Wednesday.
"You have to admit when you're wrong. We were wrong," Parsons said. "We need to do some work here, and so we're telling you right now that the ... foam should not have come off. It came off. We've got to go do something about that."
House Science Committee Chairman Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., said NASA is handling the situation "exactly right."
"It doesnt appear that the mission is in jeopardy. Nothing is in jeopardy except the schedule. But I dont want to underestimate the seriousness of it in terms of the future," Boehlert said.
The shuttle is due for retirement in 2010, and a new spacecraft is in the works. President Bush has a lofty plan for NASA to return astronauts to the moon, and eventually to Mars. It's unclear how this latest setback might affect public sentiment for the space program.
Engineers believe the irregularly sized piece of foam was 24 to 33 inches long, 10 to 14 inches wide, and between 2 and 8 inches thick ? only somewhat smaller than the 1.67-pound chunk that smashed into Columbia's left wing during liftoff in 2003. The plate-sized hole let in superheated gases that caused the shuttle to break up on its return to Earth.
On Discovery, the foam broke away from a different part of the tank than the piece that mortally wounded Columbia. The tank was redesigned for Discovery to reduce the risk of foam insulation falling off, especially big pieces like the one that ended up being shed.
Parsons stressed that the current 12-day mission was a test flight designed to check the safety of future missions. He refused to give up on the spacecraft that was designed in the 1970s.
"We think we can make this vehicle safe for the next flight," he said, declining to judge the long-term impact on the manned space program. "We will determine if it's safe to fly."
Atlantis was supposed to lift off in September, but that mission is now on indefinite hold. Parsons refused to speculate when a shuttle might fly again, but did not rule out the possibility that Discovery's current mission may be the only one for 2005.
He said it was unlikely that Atlantis would be needed for a rescue mission, in the event Discovery could not return safely to Earth and its astronauts had to move into the international space station. Discovery, fortunately, appears to be in good shape for re-entry, he said.
In addition to the big chunk of foam, several smaller pieces broke off, including at least one from an area of the fuel tank that had been modified after Columbia. Thermal tile was also damaged on Discovery's belly; one tile lost a 1 1/2-inch piece right next to the set of doors for the nose landing gear, a particularly vulnerable spot.
Hale said none of the tile damage looked particularly serious, and likely would not require repairs in orbit.
Imagery experts and engineers expect to know by Thursday afternoon whether the gouge left by the missing piece of tile needs a second look. The astronauts have a 100-foot, laser-tipped crane on board that could determine precisely how deep the gouge is.
The tile fragment broke off less than two minutes after liftoff Tuesday and was spotted by a camera mounted on the external fuel tank.
If NASA decides to use its new inspection tool to get a 3-D view of the tile damage ? which most likely will happen ? the astronauts will examine the spot on Friday, a day after docking with the international space station. The inspection of Discovery's wings and nose by the inspection boom on Wednesday turned up nothing alarming, but analysis is ongoing, Hale said.
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36 minutes ago
SPACE CENTER, Houston - NASA grounded future shuttle flights Wednesday because a big chunk of insulating foam flew off Discovery's fuel tank during liftoff ? as it did in Columbia's doomed mission ? but this time apparently missed the spacecraft.
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"Until we're ready, we won't go fly again. I don't know when that might be," shuttle program manager Bill Parsons told reporters in a briefing Wednesday evening.
He and other managers do not believe the flying debris that snapped off the external fuel tank harmed Discovery, threatening a safe return of its seven astronauts.
"Call it luck or whatever, it didn't harm the orbiter," Parsons said. If the foam had broken away earlier in flight ? when the atmosphere is thicker, increasing the acceleration and likelihood of impact ? it could have caused catastrophic damage to Discovery.
"We think that would have been really bad, so it's not acceptable," said Parsons' deputy, Wayne Hale. He said every indication so far is that Discovery is safe for its return home.
The loss of a chunk of debris, a vexing problem NASA thought had been fixed, represents a tremendous setback to a space program that has spent 2 1/2 years and over $1 billion trying to make the 20-year-old shuttles safe to fly.
The piece of foam flew off Discovery's redesigned tank just two minutes after what initially looked like a perfect liftoff Tuesday morning. But in less than an hour NASA had spotted images of a mysterious object whirling away from the tank.
Mission managers did not realize what the object was ? or how much havoc it would cause to the shuttle program ? until Wednesday after reviewing video and images taken by just a few of the 100-plus cameras in place to watch for such dangers.
Officials do not believe the foam hit the shuttle, but they plan a closer inspection of the spacecraft in the next few days to be sure.
Discovery's astronauts were told of the foam loss before going to sleep Wednesday.
"You have to admit when you're wrong. We were wrong," Parsons said. "We need to do some work here, and so we're telling you right now that the ... foam should not have come off. It came off. We've got to go do something about that."
House Science Committee Chairman Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., said NASA is handling the situation "exactly right."
"It doesnt appear that the mission is in jeopardy. Nothing is in jeopardy except the schedule. But I dont want to underestimate the seriousness of it in terms of the future," Boehlert said.
The shuttle is due for retirement in 2010, and a new spacecraft is in the works. President Bush has a lofty plan for NASA to return astronauts to the moon, and eventually to Mars. It's unclear how this latest setback might affect public sentiment for the space program.
Engineers believe the irregularly sized piece of foam was 24 to 33 inches long, 10 to 14 inches wide, and between 2 and 8 inches thick ? only somewhat smaller than the 1.67-pound chunk that smashed into Columbia's left wing during liftoff in 2003. The plate-sized hole let in superheated gases that caused the shuttle to break up on its return to Earth.
On Discovery, the foam broke away from a different part of the tank than the piece that mortally wounded Columbia. The tank was redesigned for Discovery to reduce the risk of foam insulation falling off, especially big pieces like the one that ended up being shed.
Parsons stressed that the current 12-day mission was a test flight designed to check the safety of future missions. He refused to give up on the spacecraft that was designed in the 1970s.
"We think we can make this vehicle safe for the next flight," he said, declining to judge the long-term impact on the manned space program. "We will determine if it's safe to fly."
Atlantis was supposed to lift off in September, but that mission is now on indefinite hold. Parsons refused to speculate when a shuttle might fly again, but did not rule out the possibility that Discovery's current mission may be the only one for 2005.
He said it was unlikely that Atlantis would be needed for a rescue mission, in the event Discovery could not return safely to Earth and its astronauts had to move into the international space station. Discovery, fortunately, appears to be in good shape for re-entry, he said.
In addition to the big chunk of foam, several smaller pieces broke off, including at least one from an area of the fuel tank that had been modified after Columbia. Thermal tile was also damaged on Discovery's belly; one tile lost a 1 1/2-inch piece right next to the set of doors for the nose landing gear, a particularly vulnerable spot.
Hale said none of the tile damage looked particularly serious, and likely would not require repairs in orbit.
Imagery experts and engineers expect to know by Thursday afternoon whether the gouge left by the missing piece of tile needs a second look. The astronauts have a 100-foot, laser-tipped crane on board that could determine precisely how deep the gouge is.
The tile fragment broke off less than two minutes after liftoff Tuesday and was spotted by a camera mounted on the external fuel tank.
If NASA decides to use its new inspection tool to get a 3-D view of the tile damage ? which most likely will happen ? the astronauts will examine the spot on Friday, a day after docking with the international space station. The inspection of Discovery's wings and nose by the inspection boom on Wednesday turned up nothing alarming, but analysis is ongoing, Hale said.
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GOOD POINT VINNIE BOY THIS CREW IS IN NO WAY HOME FREE.I WOULDNT WANT TO BE LOST IN SPACE KNOWING THE SHIP IS FALLING APPART.WHAT DOES THIS CREW KNOW ABOUT REPAIRING THE DAMAGED SPOTS HELL EILEEN COLLINS COULDNT REPAIR A TOY MODEL SPACE SHIP NOW THEY WANT HER TO REPAIR A 20 MILLION DOLLAR SPACE SHIP COME ON BOYS THIS CREW IS IN EXTREME DANGER WHEN THEY RETURN TO EARTH THE F-CKING SPACE SHIP IS FALLING APPART.
ANYBODY WHO DOESNT THINK THERE IS RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOUR SISTA WAS DATING JESSE JACKSON,AL SHARPTON,LOUIS FARAKAN,OR BILL CLINTON WHO WOULD YOU WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS
ANYBODY WHO DOESNT THINK THERE IS RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOUR SISTA WAS DATING JESSE JACKSON,AL SHARPTON,LOUIS FARAKAN,OR BILL CLINTON WHO WOULD YOU WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS
GOOD POINT VINNIE BOY THIS CREW IS IN NO WAY HOME FREE.I WOULDNT WANT TO BE LOST IN SPACE KNOWING THE SHIP IS FALLING APPART.WHAT DOES THIS CREW KNOW ABOUT REPAIRING THE DAMAGED SPOTS HELL EILEEN COLLINS COULDNT REPAIR A TOY MODEL SPACE SHIP NOW THEY WANT HER TO REPAIR A 20 MILLION DOLLAR SPACE SHIP COME ON BOYS THIS CREW IS IN EXTREME DANGER WHEN THEY RETURN TO EARTH THE F-CKING SPACE SHIP IS FALLING APPART.
ANYBODY WHO DOESNT THINK THERE IS RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOUR SISTA WAS DATING JESSE JACKSON,AL SHARPTON,LOUIS FARAKAN,OR BILL CLINTON WHO WOULD YOU WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS
ANYBODY WHO DOESNT THINK THERE IS RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOUR SISTA WAS DATING JESSE JACKSON,AL SHARPTON,LOUIS FARAKAN,OR BILL CLINTON WHO WOULD YOU WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS
I will have to say that they will all end up getting out of the Shuttle and staying at the space station.
NASA will send the other Shuttle up
to get them.
It may have been the plan all along who knows.
I wouldn't feel safe coming back in that Shuttle. If they do they better do it over the desert so the debris field will be easier to recover.
Crap was falling off it left and right.
Seconds from another catastrophe.
Deep space trouble boys.
KOD
NASA will send the other Shuttle up
to get them.
It may have been the plan all along who knows.
I wouldn't feel safe coming back in that Shuttle. If they do they better do it over the desert so the debris field will be easier to recover.
Crap was falling off it left and right.
Seconds from another catastrophe.
Deep space trouble boys.
KOD
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YURI'S BOYS TO THE RESCUE
Russia ready for shuttle rescue mission if needed Thu Jul 28,2005
MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia could send up to three Soyuz rockets to the International Space Station (ISS) between now and February if an evacuation of the ISS crew become necessary due to problems with the US space shuttle Discovery, officials said.
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"We are ready to send three pilotable Soyuz capsules to the International Space Station by February 2006 should rescue of the Discovery crew be necessary," Nikolai Sevastyanov, head of the Energiya rocket construction firm that builds the Soyuz, was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying.
"We are hopeful and believe in the shuttle mission. But if our American partners need help, we can be of service," he said.
Alexei Krasnov, head of the training program with the Russian space agency Roskosmos, said separately however that if such an undertaking were necessary the United States would have to bear the costs of the mission, ITAR-TASS said.
The comments from the officials came as experts with the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration ( NASA) were to examine photographs taken of the underside of the space shuttle to look for signs of damage that could compromise its planned return to Earth on August 7.
On-board cameras showed some debris had fallen off the shuttle after liftoff for Earth orbit on Tuesday. A similar incident occurred at the launch of the shuttle Columbia in January 2003, causing that spacecraft to break apart on reentering the Earth's atmosphere.
Russia ready for shuttle rescue mission if needed Thu Jul 28,2005
MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia could send up to three Soyuz rockets to the International Space Station (ISS) between now and February if an evacuation of the ISS crew become necessary due to problems with the US space shuttle Discovery, officials said.
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"We are ready to send three pilotable Soyuz capsules to the International Space Station by February 2006 should rescue of the Discovery crew be necessary," Nikolai Sevastyanov, head of the Energiya rocket construction firm that builds the Soyuz, was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying.
"We are hopeful and believe in the shuttle mission. But if our American partners need help, we can be of service," he said.
Alexei Krasnov, head of the training program with the Russian space agency Roskosmos, said separately however that if such an undertaking were necessary the United States would have to bear the costs of the mission, ITAR-TASS said.
The comments from the officials came as experts with the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration ( NASA) were to examine photographs taken of the underside of the space shuttle to look for signs of damage that could compromise its planned return to Earth on August 7.
On-board cameras showed some debris had fallen off the shuttle after liftoff for Earth orbit on Tuesday. A similar incident occurred at the launch of the shuttle Columbia in January 2003, causing that spacecraft to break apart on reentering the Earth's atmosphere.
