I guess.....

[Sun Tzu]

I havent given USC enough credit. That come from behind win over Arizona State is looking much more impressive than I ever thought. Dont be fooled by the Sun Devils today - Stanford is much tougher than that loss to UC-Davis would lead you to believe.

LMFAO.

As I said before the season started - EVERY major conference is down this year. Save the which conference is better argument for a year it matters.

 

[Sun Tzu]

And of course gotta credit USC defense:

24 v Washington is truly impressive.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Let it be USC vs Texas, the Longhorns will be embarassed. If any conference has the right to talk shit, it should be the SEC.

By the way UC Davis isn't a bad 1AA program, they are no Savannah State, Indiana State, etc...


The real insult is some saying Texas should be #1 because their victory over Ohio State was the best quality win of the season. How clueless can some be!

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

Let it be USC vs Texas, the Longhorns will be embarassed. If any conference has the right to talk shit, it should be the SEC.

By the way UC Davis isn't a bad 1AA program, they are no Savannah State, Indiana State, etc...


The real insult is some saying Texas should be #1 because their victory over Ohio State was the best quality win of the season. How clueless can some be!

If any conference has the right to talk shit it is the SEC??? LOL - Look at their bowl record the last five years. All of the major 4 conferences are good. They each have 1-2 dominant teams, a middle of the back, and bottom feeders. Let it go... If there truly is a dominant conference we will see it play out in the bowl games.

 

[Mr Hockey]

No, that is where you & a bunch of others are wrong. The bowl season usually doesn't prove much. It is a known fact that most bowl games rarely have matchups where both teams even care whether they win or lose.

Emotion especially in this sport is something that can't be overlooked. Would I be right to knock the Pac 10 because one of their heavyweights for instance in Cal got embarassed last year by Texas Tech?

No, it wouldn't be fair & I wouldn't even do as such. I wouldn't because it was well documented that Cal felt snubbed (rightfully so) & didn't care about this game. Yes, they gave the lip service but anyone with a clue knew they didn't. They also had injuries on top of it.

If anything most of the bowl season is the biggest farce in sports today.

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

No, that is where you & a bunch of others are wrong. The bowl season usually doesn't prove much. It is a known fact that most bowl games rarely have matchups where both teams even care whether they win or lose.

Emotion especially in this sport is something that can't be overlooked. Would I be right to knock the Pac 10 because one of their heavyweights for instance in Cal got embarassed last year by Texas Tech?

No, it wouldn't be fair & I wouldn't even do as such. I wouldn't because it was well documented that Cal felt snubbed (rightfully so) & didn't care about this game. Yes, they gave the lip service but anyone with a clue knew they didn't. They also had injuries on top of it.

If anything most of the bowl season is the biggest farce in sports today.

Typical response from an SEC fan. If the were so DOMINANT it shouldn't matter who they face in the bowl games. Bottom line the Big 10, SEC, Big 12, ACC and PAC 10 are all about even. In any given year if you take away the top 2 teams from each conference and take the middle of the pack teams and play them. They will finish about even.

I would give a slight lean to the ACC this year as the strongest conference. But it changes every year by the slimmest of margins.

 

[Mr Hockey]

I'm actually a Steve Spurrier fan, not just a SEC fan. Sorry you have no clue to understand reality.

Emotion plays a huge roll in college football & most bowl games rarely feature 2 teams who are both playing with their heart in it to win.

The regular season is usually a much stronger indicator of what is really going on in the season.

The SEC does have a legitimate claim to talk trash based on how top teams are doing. We have 2 of the few unbeatens left. The ACC is also a tough conference.

 

[gjn23]

guess what....you're right...the 5 power conf are all about the same....however only one gets ripped as "weak".....and there is no east coast bias?????

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

Well we will see how tough this proclaimed defense is from the SEC when the Vols come to South Bend in two weeks. If they shut down the Irish, then I guess you're right. GL

 

[Mr Hockey]

Well one game doesn't determine the quality of SEC defenses. I personally think Fulmer is a horrible coach. With the talent he had every year, this moron should have accomplished more.

Personally I hope ND blasts them.

 

[Scott4USC]

Bottom line the Big 10, SEC, Big 12, ACC and PAC 10 are all about even. In any given year if you take away the top 2 teams from each conference and take the middle of the pack teams and play them. They will finish about even.

I would give a slight lean to the ACC this year as the strongest conference. But it changes every year by the slimmest of margins.

I agree! :yup

The SEC does have a legitimate claim to talk trash based on how top teams are doing. We have 2 of the few unbeatens left. The ACC is also a tough conference.

You do know the SEC conf. is statistically the easist conf. to run the table. More teams come out of the SEC conf. undefeated than any other BCS conf. in CFB. If it was so tough/dominate/superior, that WOULD NOT happen. Stats don't lie.

Georgia has a SOS #73
Alabama has a SOS #51

Should we be impressed?

Well we will see how tough this proclaimed defense is from the SEC when the Vols come to South Bend in two weeks. If they shut down the Irish, then I guess you're right. GL

We saw how LSU D played against ASU. (clueless)
Lets see how TN D plays against ND. We saw how Alabama played against TN. We all have seen Arkansas play against USC and SEC opponents. Didn't Arky outgain Georgia? (yes I know UGA QB injured) Didn't Arky hang with Alabama 1 week after giving up 70 to USC? Arky D has played well in SEC play but looked clueless against USC.

SEC is such a superior conf. that plays real defense. Unlike the wussy Pac 10!

And of course gotta credit USC defense:

24 v Washington is truly impressive.

I take it you didn't watch the game. Washington took opening kick 92 yards and the USC D held them to FG. Washington scored a TD in the 2h off an INT thrown by the 2nd string QB. USC D only gave up 14pts to Washington. USC D shut out the Washington offense in the 2h. The game was played @Washington and USC just played @South Bend the week prior in an emotional game.

 

[The Judge]

The game was played @Washington and USC just played @South Bend the week prior in an emotional game.

I would suggest that the genius of a defensive mind, Pete Caroll start pulling a few of those rabbits out of his hat sometime soon. After watching their mediocre defense give up 24 points to a 1-6 Washington team I am more confident than ever of a Longhorn victory in the Rose Bowl.

Did you know that in seven games, only Idaho has allowed Washington to score more points that the Trojans did? I just pray that your Trojans are able to make it to Pasadena for a well deserved lesson in humility.

 

[Scott4USC]

I would suggest that the genius of a defensive mind, Pete Caroll start pulling a few of those rabbits out of his hat sometime soon. After watching their mediocre defense give up 24 points to a 1-6 Washington team I am more confident than ever of a Longhorn victory in the Rose Bowl.

Did you know that in seven games, only Idaho has allowed Washington to score more points that the Trojans did? I just pray that your Trojans are able to make it to Pasadena for a well deserved lesson in humility.

:mj07:

The USC team gave up 24pts. The USC D gave up 14pts. Washington took opening kick 92 yards and USC D shut them down 1,2,3. Gave up FG. In the 4th quarter USC 2nd string QB threw and INT for TD. USC D shut out the Washington offense in the 2nd half.

You also are not aware of all the injuries on the USC D. At the end of the year, USC should be healthy and experienced. USC is playing a $hit load of young players and most on the D are inexperienced. On Sat. USC lost their starting DB Walker to ankle injury. He was USC's 4th best DB to start the year. USC played 3 FRESHMAN who got their first playing time of the year at the DB position.

I am loving the USC doubts :mj14: . USC gears itself to play their best football at the end of the year. All game against Washington USC was playing 2nd stringers and getting them experienced. USC D you saw hold ND below their averages iin South Bend will NOT be the same USC D playing in January. Happens every year with USC and Pete Carroll. USC team always makes adjustments and improves. That is the scary part! :scared

I wouldn't question a program who has won 29 straight games, winners of 40 of their last 41 games, 3 straight BCS blowouts, and 2 Narional Championships!

If you watched ESPN today Herbie showed why he is a smart analyst. He said USC D is young and will improve greatly at the end of the year. He is dead on! I also wonder if Herbie reads USC message boards or talks to USC coaches. He is usually dead on with his comments about USC and he knows most of the USC players. He might have gotten friendly with the USC coaching staff when visiting the practices.

LASTLY, USC D just needs to hold the opposition to under 30pts. No defense in CFB that will hold USC O to under 30pts. Especially at the end of the year! Key words are NO DEFENSE! USC might hold themselves to under 30 but no opposing D will. Especially a D from the SEC or Big 12. ACC D, FSU/Miami might pose some problems.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Scott be happy with the doubters especially if they meet Texas. They will destroy them. I'm not sure if you play at 5D or not but they are -5 against Texas right now. I consider that a huge bargin.

USC will score 40+ on them especially with so many weeks of rest.