Insant Replay
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IF they would just get it RIGHT I can live with it. This one goes against me in a BIG way
What BS! THISclose
What BS! THISclose
IMO, the refs DID manage to get this call right, it's the RULE that needs a rewrite.
can't pin a rule flaw on the officials. that should have been a fumble, but techically wasn't.
can't pin a rule flaw on the officials. that should have been a fumble, but techically wasn't.
I'm with Mama on this one. They explained the rule, which clearly outlined that it was the right call. Agree, however, that it is a very poorly worded and porrly conceived rule.
Bull shit. A fumble is a fumble. I don't care what kind of word spin you want to put on it....THISclose
What is the Rule here? You can pump the ball then pull it back in and get hit and fumble it and that is an incomplete pass.
Doesn't the replay have to overule the call on the field?
Joke call - Glad I didn't have a penny on this joke.
Doesn't the replay have to overule the call on the field?
Joke call - Glad I didn't have a penny on this joke.
the league will come out monday saying they blew it but it won't change the outcome what they explained was not the rule that was bogus
You think after the Cleveland incident they were going to let that call stand. The refs wanted to get out of town alive plus don't forget the ongoing battle between the NFL and Al Davis.
The funny thing - nobody would have even complained at all if they just let the call stand. You would of had absolutely no controversy if they stuck with the call on the field. Nobody looks at that replay (other than pats fan or pats better) and says oh yeah he was throwing it this is boo sheet. Nope game would have ended with no contro, but what fun would that have been.
Conclusive??
Conclusive??
The way I saw it, Brady had pulled the ball back in - and his other (non-throwing hand) actually had touched the ball before he was hit - which means the "attempt" was over at that point..
I thought there was no way they'd overrule the call on the field, as the evidence must be "conclusive" - it certainly was not that - if so many people could see it in different ways (some thought it was a fumble, some (the replay officials) did not - isn't that the definition of inconclusive???? :shrug:
Conclusive??
The way I saw it, Brady had pulled the ball back in - and his other (non-throwing hand) actually had touched the ball before he was hit - which means the "attempt" was over at that point..
I thought there was no way they'd overrule the call on the field, as the evidence must be "conclusive" - it certainly was not that - if so many people could see it in different ways (some thought it was a fumble, some (the replay officials) did not - isn't that the definition of inconclusive???? :shrug:
forget the fumble the refs blew 2 calls on that play also. look closely.
1. Woodson gives a blow to the head of brady, which I believe is flag since it was the qb. doesn't matter if its a slap or a forearm any part of the head is a flag for the qb
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RULE FROM NFL RULES
Striking opponent on head or neck with forearm, elbow, or hands whether or not the initial contact is made below the neck area.
2. Brady gets away with an illegal trip, that should have been a flag also.
So if you want the correct call for all of you wanting perfect officiating, it should have been off setting penalites thus no dam play.
Regardless Raiders let this one slip away, the refs did not take it away
1. Woodson gives a blow to the head of brady, which I believe is flag since it was the qb. doesn't matter if its a slap or a forearm any part of the head is a flag for the qb
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RULE FROM NFL RULES
Striking opponent on head or neck with forearm, elbow, or hands whether or not the initial contact is made below the neck area.
2. Brady gets away with an illegal trip, that should have been a flag also.
So if you want the correct call for all of you wanting perfect officiating, it should have been off setting penalites thus no dam play.
Regardless Raiders let this one slip away, the refs did not take it away
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I completely agree with Mags!!!! I do not like the Raiders, but still, that was the wrong call, Raiders should have won that game. Brady had the ball in his right hand and he brought it down and ACTUALLY TOUCHED it to his left hand!!!!and then a fraction of a second later, it got knocked out. The refs had ample time to see it in slow mo, AND STILL BLEW THE CALL!! I think what the refs saw was that they thought Brady's hand was in a throwing motion and it got loose, but he was clearly bringing it back down, not throwing it. He had to be in a throwing motion for it to be an incomplete pass, which it clearly was not. Maybe they should install the rules and bring in a SUPER SLOW MO cam when the regular slow mo cam isn't sufficient enough.
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I completely agree with Mags!!!! I do not like the Raiders, but still, that was the wrong call, Raiders should have won that game. Brady had the ball in his right hand and he brought it down and ACTUALLY TOUCHED it to his left hand!!!!and then a fraction of a second later, it got knocked out. The refs had ample time to see it in slow mo, AND STILL BLEW THE CALL!! I think what the refs saw was that they thought Brady's hand was in a throwing motion and it got loose, but he was clearly bringing it back down, not throwing it. He had to be in a throwing motion for it to be an incomplete pass, which it clearly was not. Maybe they should install the rules and bring in a SUPER SLOW MO cam when the regular slow mo cam isn't sufficient enough.
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"Joke call - Glad I didn't have a penny on this joke."
With ya there. If I had money on Oakland stationary objects around my house would suddenly learn how to fly. They just always seem to out do themselves...it really is pathetic. I dont give a shit what any rule says, I know what I saw and what I saw was a fumble.
With ya there. If I had money on Oakland stationary objects around my house would suddenly learn how to fly. They just always seem to out do themselves...it really is pathetic. I dont give a shit what any rule says, I know what I saw and what I saw was a fumble.
Nevertease, "Regardless Raiders let this one slip away, the refs did not take it away"
The FUCK they didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!
The FUCK they didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!
one of the things i question on the overturn of the call.... (and this part probably cannot be *added* in a review) .... while yes, i do beleve that by the *law* the incomplete pass call was correct, the ball was pointed TO THE GROUND at the time of the hit!! okay, he was NOT outside the tackles, and WAS in danger of being sacked, so what about a grounding call???
well all of you crying about the officials gets a lil bit old. its part of the game. the officials made the call based on what the rule book says, i guess we change the rules in the middle of games now.
but like I said all of you wanting perfection in officiating it should have been off setting penalites and no play. watch the replay and you will see woodson slap brady in the head, penalty.
then brady trips biekert, penalty
so if your gonna complain about that calls you should complain about all calls.
but like I said all of you wanting perfection in officiating it should have been off setting penalites and no play. watch the replay and you will see woodson slap brady in the head, penalty.
then brady trips biekert, penalty
so if your gonna complain about that calls you should complain about all calls.
I agree with you neverteaseit. Those were two very obvious calls that showed up on replay. For Raider fans, it is a tough loss. But as another pointed out, the RULE not the REFS cost you the game. The rule was correctly interpreted by the crew. It is simply a poorly written rule and a damn' tough way to get bounced from the playoffs. You can be guaranteed that there were highly placed league officials on hand that "helped" the referee make the call. They will not come out tomorrow and say they blew the call. The rule was enforced as written.
Oh my! This was clearly a fumble! I don't care what rule it is, this was a fumble and have seen it in other games where the qb has fumbled and they never called it incomplete. I feel bad for the Oak bettors! I like instant reply, but this call is horrible. The ref must have had a snowflake in his eye.
