Interesting election results from Tuesday night

[Chadman]

I'm guessing that had the vote in Ohio gone in favor backing Kasich and his crew that this story would have been posted on Tuesday night or Wednesday. As it didn't, I'll post it in case some of you missed some results. It appears that those who are predicting a conservative/tea party/anti-union backlash against legislation and legislators may not be as "right" as they think they are. - C.

In a decisive victory for workers and the middle class, voters in Ohio overwhelmingly approved a referendum to repeal Senate Bill 5, a controversial bill signed into law by Governor John Kasich. The bill was designed to silence the voices and strip away the collective bargaining rights of public workers. Ohioans reacted to the politically motivated attack by taking matters into their own hands. They collected more than a million signatures to trigger a citizen veto process to put a referendum of the unpopular law on the November 8th ballot.

Election 2011 also saw victories for the middle class and public education across the nation:

? Kentucky Governor Beshear ? a strong advocate for public education and winner of NEA?s 2011 Education Governor award ? won reelection by a wide margin.

? Voters in Michigan recalled state Senator Paul Scott, Chair of the Michigan House Education Committee. The recall was triggered by anger over cuts to education funding and attacks on educators? pensions and health care.

? In Wake County North Carolina, pro?public education Democrats took the school board out of the hands of the Tea Party with decisive wins in all five contested seats.

? Voters in Maine repealed a law requiring voters to enroll at least two days before an election, restoring a four-decade policy of allowing registrations as late as Election Day.

? Iowa Democrats maintained control of the Iowa Senate with the victory of Liz Mathis over Republican Cindy Golding by a 55 to 43 percent margin.

 

[Skulnik]

I'm guessing that had the vote in Ohio gone in favor backing Kasich and his crew that this story would have been posted on Tuesday night or Wednesday. As it didn't, I'll post it in case some of you missed some results. It appears that those who are predicting a conservative/tea party/anti-union backlash against legislation and legislators may not be as "right" as they think they are. - C.

In a decisive victory for workers and the middle class, voters in Ohio overwhelmingly approved a referendum to repeal Senate Bill 5, a controversial bill signed into law by Governor John Kasich. The bill was designed to silence the voices and strip away the collective bargaining rights of public workers. Ohioans reacted to the politically motivated attack by taking matters into their own hands. They collected more than a million signatures to trigger a citizen veto process to put a referendum of the unpopular law on the November 8th ballot.

Election 2011 also saw victories for the middle class and public education across the nation:

? Kentucky Governor Beshear ? a strong advocate for public education and winner of NEA?s 2011 Education Governor award ? won reelection by a wide margin.

? Voters in Michigan recalled state Senator Paul Scott, Chair of the Michigan House Education Committee. The recall was triggered by anger over cuts to education funding and attacks on educators? pensions and health care.

? In Wake County North Carolina, pro?public education Democrats took the school board out of the hands of the Tea Party with decisive wins in all five contested seats.

? Voters in Maine repealed a law requiring voters to enroll at least two days before an election, restoring a four-decade policy of allowing registrations as late as Election Day.

? Iowa Democrats maintained control of the Iowa Senate with the victory of Liz Mathis over Republican Cindy Golding by a 55 to 43 percent margin.

? Voters in Maine repealed a law requiring voters to enroll at least two days before an election, restoring a four-decade policy of allowing registrations as late as Election Day.


Democrats are for anything that can complicate an Election, you know, get a judge to keep the polls open longer, so as to STUFF the Ballot Boxes.

That Truely is a PITY, Really.

:0008

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

? Voters in Maine repealed a law requiring voters to enroll at least two days before an election, restoring a four-decade policy of allowing registrations as late as Election Day.


Democrats are for anything that can complicate an Election, you know, get a judge to keep the polls open longer, so as to STUFF the Ballot Boxes.

That Truely is a PITY, Really.

:0008

Isn't allowing people to register the day of the election a way of "un-complicating" the process? Seems like having restrictions and deadlines makes the process more difficult and constricting. The goal is to allow law abiding citizens the opportunity to vote. Your comment about stuffing the ballot boxes is unfounded and complete BS. You are a pity, really.

 

[Chadman]

Yeah, like "losing" ballots from parts of the state that are vastly democratic? Like that kind of "uncomplicated" result? :mj07:

For the record, I have no problem with requiring a valid ID card to vote. I still don't see what the issue is with that. People have all year to obtain an ID card, and I'd think they would need them for many things in their lives, like cashing checks, for instance.

But I do find these election results interesting, especially the Ohio one.

 

[Chadman]

Sorry, I didn't see the other thread that had been talking about this (the first part, anyway). It's been a busy week.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I'm guessing that had the vote in Ohio gone in favor backing Kasich and his crew that this story would have been posted on Tuesday night or Wednesday. As it didn't, I'll post it in case some of you missed some results. It appears that those who are predicting a conservative/tea party/anti-union backlash against legislation and legislators may not be as "right" as they think they are. - C.

In a decisive victory for workers and the middle class, voters in Ohio overwhelmingly approved a referendum to repeal Senate Bill 5, a controversial bill signed into law by Governor John Kasich. The bill was designed to silence the voices and strip away the collective bargaining rights of public workers. Ohioans reacted to the politically motivated attack by taking matters into their own hands. They collected more than a million signatures to trigger a citizen veto process to put a referendum of the unpopular law on the November 8th ballot.

Election 2011 also saw victories for the middle class and public education across the nation:

? Kentucky Governor Beshear ? a strong advocate for public education and winner of NEA?s 2011 Education Governor award ? won reelection by a wide margin.

? Voters in Michigan recalled state Senator Paul Scott, Chair of the Michigan House Education Committee. The recall was triggered by anger over cuts to education funding and attacks on educators? pensions and health care.

? In Wake County North Carolina, pro?public education Democrats took the school board out of the hands of the Tea Party with decisive wins in all five contested seats.

? Voters in Maine repealed a law requiring voters to enroll at least two days before an election, restoring a four-decade policy of allowing registrations as late as Election Day.

? Iowa Democrats maintained control of the Iowa Senate with the victory of Liz Mathis over Republican Cindy Golding by a 55 to 43 percent margin.

Little Johnny: "Hey teach" speaking of Ohio --what about them voting to opt out of healthcare reform--and what about Ms and Vir gov races"
"You are either clueless to those facts--or just some partisan hack with an agenda--please inform the class which-so we know to expect in the future."

 

[Chadman]

Funny how Little Johnny is hanging out in an online sports gambling website to get his school information, but I guess that must be a "Kentucky" thing.

Sorry, Wayne, I thought this was an open forum for political discussions - I didn't know that I was going to be held to a higher standard for "fairness" than anyone else based on my future occupation which will deal with English, not politics. Forgive me if I don't worry too much about my objectivity and fairness when it comes to considering your posted positions most of the time...

But to the point - I was clueless about those things you mentioned, I only saw this story in a brief review this morning. Sorry I can't be responsible for knowing all the news that is news every day...

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I was a little rabid on purpose Chad -in hopes that it may stick in your memory a bit longer.

If it equates to just one fututre event in classroom where you have flashback and opt to give them all the facts and make their own decision-instead of trying to influence them per agendas--it will have been worth it.

Is obvious that all your posts (as above) in forum have liberal lean--and one would have to be naive to think that the bias would not carry over to classroom.

per issues of this post--

-Young children are impressionable and easily led-and deserve the greatest caution

-not so much a prob as they get older as they can make up their own minds and determine that one who get his check from gov and pays unions for protection- might be a tad biased.

--back to little johnny's "unanswered "question

--in case it was- you didn't know "the rest of the story"

--I might suggest you get a more balanced sources of news- so you can get a fair and balanced objective.

I thought Mr Krauthammer did best job as usual in presenting--the truth. You may want to bookmark his website for future reference.
I don't believe he misses a point you tried to make--nor any that you omitted :0008

<DL><DT>Charles Krauthammer</DT><DD>Opinion Writer</DD></DL>

The 2011 elections: A split decision

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...lit-decision/2011/11/10/gIQA6Sas9M_story.html

 

[Chadman]

I'm actually taking quite a bit of offense from your angle here Wayne, so I think I'll let this all drop. I have been quite well trained in how to present information in my classroom, and think I have a pretty fair head on my shoulders. I think it's funny how conservatives are so concerned about the liberal message in classrooms when they really have no clue about what goes on in them - including the textbooks that present a ridiculously skewed perspective of American history. Very little of this information comes out in English classes, so maybe you can get off my ass about it. Take it up with the history and social studies classes, perhaps - the ones that use the textbooks that ignore half of most American issues because big publishing companies make money selling the America that most Americans are comfortable with - and do little to present the real story of how our country came about. But again, I'm sure Krauthammer is comfortable with those omissions of history - which means you are too, I'd assume.

I wager I know a helluva lot more than you do about what makes kids tick these days, and the right way to present information to a classroom. Having kids myself helps me to further understand their influences. We're taught, repeatedly, to avoid bias in everything we do - including race, socio-economic status, etc. Some of these issues don't mean much as far as fairness goes to most who criticize the current classroom environment (i.e., you...), I realize. I don't know many other professions - especially the insurance business, come to think of it, that addresses bias head on and trains people how to avoid it. Insurance thrives on bias, and bases business models on it, it would seem. So, kind of funny that you criticize my career path.

For the record, I know my post was slanted towards a liberal view of the election results. See, that's the difference between us - I know this, and admit it. You on the other hand stand behind Krauthammer as an unbiased source that only professes truth. Which is ridiculous, as anyone not sniffing his conservative jock strap knows. He has some good points, I do read his articles from time to time, but to say he has no bias is just stupid. I would not present the article I posted in the classroom as an overview of what happened Tuesday night. You may not be able to wear multiple hats in presenting info, but I have a different presentation in here than I ever would in the classroom. It's far from the same thing, not that you seem to understand - or care - don't know which.

For the record, in the classroom, I'm ALWAYS thinking about bias and how to present myself, the information, and most importantly, about student welfare. People who have not been trained (at a college that specializes in teaching, that is) have no clue about that. I daresay that most of society should be happy that kids spend time with trained teachers instead of hearing the bullshit they hear at home, or God knows where else.

 

[The Sponge]

I'm actually taking quite a bit of offense from your angle here Wayne, so I think I'll let this all drop. I have been quite well trained in how to present information in my classroom, and think I have a pretty fair head on my shoulders. I think it's funny how conservatives are so concerned about the liberal message in classrooms when they really have no clue about what goes on in them - including the textbooks that present a ridiculously skewed perspective of American history. Very little of this information comes out in English classes, so maybe you can get off my ass about it. Take it up with the history and social studies classes, perhaps - the ones that use the textbooks that ignore half of most American issues because big publishing companies make money selling the America that most Americans are comfortable with - and do little to present the real story of how our country came about. But again, I'm sure Krauthammer is comfortable with those omissions of history - which means you are too, I'd assume.

I wager I know a helluva lot more than you do about what makes kids tick these days, and the right way to present information to a classroom. Having kids myself helps me to further understand their influences. We're taught, repeatedly, to avoid bias in everything we do - including race, socio-economic status, etc. Some of these issues don't mean much as far as fairness goes to most who criticize the current classroom environment (i.e., you...), I realize. I don't know many other professions - especially the insurance business, come to think of it, that addresses bias head on and trains people how to avoid it. Insurance thrives on bias, and bases business models on it, it would seem. So, kind of funny that you criticize my career path.

For the record, I know my post was slanted towards a liberal view of the election results. See, that's the difference between us - I know this, and admit it. You on the other hand stand behind Krauthammer as an unbiased source that only professes truth. Which is ridiculous, as anyone not sniffing his conservative jock strap knows. He has some good points, I do read his articles from time to time, but to say he has no bias is just stupid. I would not present the article I posted in the classroom as an overview of what happened Tuesday night. You may not be able to wear multiple hats in presenting info, but I have a different presentation in here than I ever would in the classroom. It's far from the same thing, not that you seem to understand - or care - don't know which.

For the record, in the classroom, I'm ALWAYS thinking about bias and how to present myself, the information, and most importantly, about student welfare. People who have not been trained (at a college that specializes in teaching, that is) have no clue about that. I daresay that most of society should be happy that kids spend time with trained teachers instead of hearing the bullshit they hear at home, or God knows where else.

Hlarious how u will look at each side of an issue and Dogs is lecturing u on getting better news sources and then giving u one of the most one sided authors out there :mj07: :mj07: Hilarious yet so sad.

 

[Trench]

I wager I know a helluva lot more than you do about what makes kids tick these days, and the right way to present information to a classroom.

Maybe if more children were to hear the disturbed and incoherent ramblings of a guy like DTB, they'd be scared straight. Guest speaker on Career Day perhaps?

Just a thought.

 

[PRO190]

Typical left whining like a little kid because they lost the game and now have to go tell the teacher they want to pick new teams..

You LOST THE ELECTION DEAL WITH IT!!
You didn't see us RECALLING that Criminal Doyle just because he didn't run the State as we would have preferred..

You are all the Little Puss who Takes his Ball and Runs Home because he didn't get HIS WAY!!



You can try and Spin it any way you want but the Fact remains You Lost the ELECTION and cannot Handle the Fact You Lost by your Pathetic recalls and Infantile Protests..
So are we to Start a Recall Everytime a Gov. of differing Ideals is Elected...
You make a mockery of the system as in Not the way it was Intended to be used...

You all should be Ashamed and Embarrassed.. :facepalm:

 

[Mags]

Typical left whining like a little kid because they lost the game and now have to go tell the teacher they want to pick new teams..

You LOST THE ELECTION DEAL WITH IT!!
You didn't see us RECALLING that Criminal Doyle just because he didn't run the State as we would have preferred..

You are all the Little Puss who Takes his Ball and Runs Home because he didn't get HIS WAY!!



You can try and Spin it any way you want but the Fact remains You Lost the ELECTION and cannot Handle the Fact You Lost by your Pathetic recalls and Infantile Protests..
So are we to Start a Recall Everytime a Gov. of differing Ideals is Elected...
You make a mockery of the system as in Not the way it was Intended to be used...

You all should be Ashamed and Embarrassed.. :facepalm:

+1

I do agree - recalls should not be allowed - whether it is a Dem or Republican.

As much as I don't like Obama, I don't feel he should be recalled (not that he could be anyway). We have a chance every 4 years to change our "choice" of president/governor, etc.

It is unfair to recall any elected official before his term is up (unless they commit a felony, for example). They all need to be given 4 years to allow them to fully implement there ideas to actually see if they work or not. 1 year certainly is not enough to be able to tell if a large policy change is working or not.

Now, after 4 years, if you are not happy with your choice, and their agenda is not working for you, then by all means, make a change.

Which is exactly what should occur with Obama. Clearly, what he has done hasn't worked - and in 11 months we'll have a chance to make a change. Hopefully, enough people will be smart enough to make that change - and not vote solely based on the race and/or speechmaking ability of the candidate - but base their vote on the results of what the candidate has done for the country.

 

[smurphy]

I'm actually taking quite a bit of offense from your angle here Wayne, so I think I'll let this all drop. I have been quite well trained in how to present information in my classroom, and think I have a pretty fair head on my shoulders. I think it's funny how conservatives are so concerned about the liberal message in classrooms when they really have no clue about what goes on in them - including the textbooks that present a ridiculously skewed perspective of American history. Very little of this information comes out in English classes, so maybe you can get off my ass about it. Take it up with the history and social studies classes, perhaps - the ones that use the textbooks that ignore half of most American issues because big publishing companies make money selling the America that most Americans are comfortable with - and do little to present the real story of how our country came about. But again, I'm sure Krauthammer is comfortable with those omissions of history - which means you are too, I'd assume.

I'm not much for reading or book learnin', but I did enjoy that paragraph quite a bit. Kudos to the author.:0003

 

[smurphy]

<DL><DT>Charles Krauthammer</DT><DD>Opinion Writer</DD></DL>

Reagan would be so ashamed of the Reaganites. It's too bad his name is associated with them. Sends the wrong message about a basically moderate and compromising President.

 

[Trench]

It is unfair to recall any elected official before his term is up (unless they commit a felony, for example). They all need to be given 4 years to allow them to fully implement there ideas to actually see if they work or not. 1 year certainly is not enough to be able to tell if a large policy change is working or not.

Yeah Mags, just like you gave Obamacare 4 years.

 

[Full court press]

Little Johnny: "Hey teach" speaking of Ohio --what about them voting to opt out of healthcare reform--and what about Ms and Vir gov races"
"You are either clueless to those facts--or just some partisan hack with an agenda--please inform the class which-so we know to expect in the future."

To me the Ohio results indicated that many were willing to cross party lines and actually vote their minds. Kasich took SB5 just way too far. Many dems , as well as GOP voters found items in the bill that were fair. It was clearly a case of too much too soon for our wonderful governor.

 

[Full court press]

Typical left whining like a little kid because they lost the game and now have to go tell the teacher they want to pick new teams..

You LOST THE ELECTION DEAL WITH IT!!
You didn't see us RECALLING that Criminal Doyle just because he didn't run the State as we would have preferred..

You are all the Little Puss who Takes his Ball and Runs Home because he didn't get HIS WAY!!



You can try and Spin it any way you want but the Fact remains You Lost the ELECTION and cannot Handle the Fact You Lost by your Pathetic recalls and Infantile Protests..
So are we to Start a Recall Everytime a Gov. of differing Ideals is Elected...
You make a mockery of the system as in Not the way it was Intended to be used...

You all should be Ashamed and Embarrassed.. :facepalm:

I can't imagine living a life so full of hate as you do. May god find you some peace. :sadwave:

 

[Mags]

Yeah Mags, just like you gave Obamacare 4 years.

We were talking recall elections. People, not policy, in case you don't understand.

But using your logic, the union law should never have been repealed in Ohio.

 

[Trench]

We were talking recall elections. People, not policy, in case you don't understand.

I understand fine. You said...

"They all need to be given 4 years to allow them to fully implement there ideas to actually see if they work or not. 1 year certainly is not enough to be able to tell if a large policy change is working or not."

So tell me how you and your fellow rabid righties gave Obama 4 years to implement his policies (including healthcare reform) and see if they work or not.

They're YOUR words.

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