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Toledo Prophet

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Well, after the media pounding and pounding us with the 2008 horse race for the last two years (and missing the boat on several key stories, as a result), we are finally at least at the day of the first primary.

And, there's no thread in this usually spirited forum!?!?! :shrug:

Ok, onto my picks:

Dems: Obama......yes, yes, yes, by all accounts its Hillary's nomination to lose, but I think the junior senator from Illinois has a surprise up his sleeve and manages to squeak out a narrow victory tonight in Iowa. Here's a secret: Hillary is not that well liked. Really, Its the truth. I think I heard something about it on Fox. Seriously, though, she is not that popular within a lot of Democratic Party circles. Back in 2006, she ruffled a lot of feathers when she was not on board with the 50-state strategy during the mid-terms, thought the party was better off maintaining in 2006 and focusing instead on the presidency in 2008. Even as it looked like the 50-state stragety was making in roads, she still was 'meh' about it and had to be shamed to fork over any of her huge treasure chest of campaign funds for the cause. I think that hurts her tonight in the Caucus forum. Edwards will give a strong run, but as it becomes more and more likely that he will come up short, expect those in his camp to swing their support to Obama and net him the overall win tonight in Iowa. How Hillary will respond to this defeat will tell the tale of the rest of Democratic Primary Campaign.

Repubs: Talk about the epitome of wide open. Anyone of five different guys could end up on top tonight, and it would not surprise me in the least. Yet, I see Huckabee coming out on top tonight. He has the momentum and enough of the Christian base to put him over the top, albeit narrowly. In no way does a win in Iowa for any republican mean the nomination. This sucker will be undecided for quite a while. I expect Romney to show strong tonight. Guilliani to show weak. I honestly have no idea what kind of showing Ron Paul will. He could win. He could come in sixth. Neither would shock me.

I will add this.....the story of the night for the R's will be John McCain. Yep, he will beat Rudy. I dont know if this qualifies as an upset, but, heck, its my upset pick anyway. Saw a poll that had every single candidate in from both side. All had as much if not more unfavorable, than favorable reviews, except one--McCain...in the end, many Iowa voters tonight will go to the poll undecided. Enough will like McCain enough to pull the lever, give him a solid third place finish and resusitate a once seemingly dead campsign for the Oval Office.

And, finally, Rudy gives us a screaming Howard Dean moment afterwards....hopefully he wont be wearing a dress.

So, those are my picks.....good luck on whatever you play! Wait, what, this is not a picks forum. Ooops my bad.....maybe I'll come up with an Orange Bowl play or some college hoops then!!
 

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Everyone else celebrated New Years the other night....us Iowans are celebrating tonight starting at approx 6:30 Pm if you are a dem and 7 PM if you are a Rep--those are the start times for the respective caucuses.

I think your take on the Dem side is spot on, TP. Really hope its basically a 3 way tie between Hill, Edwards and Obama. I don't believe that 100,000 voters of each party in Iowa should have as much power in deciding the next President, and with the Rep side wide open, a three way tie on the Dems side will allow more states/voters the opportunity to have a say in who the next Pres will be.
Have no idea what will happen on the Rep side, nor do I care. Huckelberry or whatever his name is should do well as its only the hardest of hardcore political types that turn out for the caucuses. And in Iowa that means the ultra-liberals on the left and the bible-thumping right-to-lifers on the right.
Haven't missed a caucus since I was 1st eligible, and that was in 1984...
I finally had had enough after the last caucus when Iowa gave Kerry his start towards the national nomination.
I told anyone that would listen(all 3 of them..lol) that there was no way Kerry would win the general election...

Besides, its bowling night and nothing short of my own death will keep me from the lanes..:mj07:
 
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Here's a secret: Hillary is not that well liked. Really, Its the truth. I think I heard something about it on Fox. Seriously, though, she is not that popular within a lot of Democratic Party circles.
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That's a secret huh, ok you spineless little fawking bastard toledo ohio, let me tell you one thing, I will make the best President this country has ever seen. Not popular, you little prick, everyone loves me. What the fawk are you talking about, I am loved by the American people , just for putting up with Bill as long as I have. You just vote me in and see if I don't get the best of everything. Yeh I took furniture when we left the white house, yeh I was involved in so many gates my lawyers got rich, yeh I lie like a rug at times and talk out of both sides of my mouth, but that does not mean I am not the peoples choice. I think you should rethink your position on who will win tonight Byron Toledo, you bloody bastard coward fawker of sheep.


PS did I mention if I win I am going to build a mini tajh mahal inside the grounds of the white house where I will entertain guests. And not you Toledo you rotten tomato can pisswhawker pussycakes.
 

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And, finally, Rudy gives us a screaming Howard Dean moment afterwards....hopefully he wont be wearing a dress.

While a funny image, I don't think you'll see that. Rudy hasn't put much effort into SoCar and Iowa and seems to be focusing on the Super Tuesday states more.

I have no idea who will win tonight. I still don't understand why they don't just have all this shit on the same day.
 

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Hard to believe

Hard to believe

the fate of the candidates possibly rest in the hands of thousands of Iowans.....talk about putting on a dog and pony show in the frozen cornfields...

Nothing against Iowa but what is their political revelance other than being First to Caucus, Apparently Very Righteous, and overwhelmingly white?
 

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yeah...it`s pretty cool....750,000 political operatives and media descending on 750 iowans who will take part in this fiasco......

having coffee clatches and pulling one another`s pud...

a shamockery.....

the dem nominee is hillary...book it...all this other stuff is media mental masturbation...

the republican nominee?....who knows...but the democratic operatives in the msm want it to be huckleberry very badly...with mccain as their back-up........and understandably so....they`ll beat him to death with his baptist minister/bible thumper/dog killer son baggage and hillary will fulfill her destiny.....and mccain is more liberal than he is conservative....


many,like myself...the true conservatives,won`t even bother going to bat or to the polls for the liberal podunk huckleberry....maybe not even mccain...

very shrewd plan...

we could save alot of time,money and histrionics and just innaugurate queen hillary...
 

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the dem nominee is hillary...book it...all this other stuff is media mental masturbation...



we could save alot of time,money and histrionics and just innaugurate queen hillary...

:nono:

obama is getting the majority of the young women voters. This just in...56% reporting in Iowa are 1st timers...

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Thanks Oprah! Maybe shes sucking his d**k too!
 

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That's a secret huh, ok you spineless little fawking bastard toledo ohio, let me tell you one thing, I will make the best President this country has ever seen. Not popular, you little prick, everyone loves me. What the fawk are you talking about, I am loved by the American people , just for putting up with Bill as long as I have. You just vote me in and see if I don't get the best of everything. Yeh I took furniture when we left the white house, yeh I was involved in so many gates my lawyers got rich, yeh I lie like a rug at times and talk out of both sides of my mouth, but that does not mean I am not the peoples choice. I think you should rethink your position on who will win tonight Byron Toledo, you bloody bastard coward fawker of sheep.


PS did I mention if I win I am going to build a mini tajh mahal inside the grounds of the white house where I will entertain guests. And not you Toledo you rotten tomato can pisswhawker pussycakes.

:00x31 :00x11

Those are my only hopes now!!
 

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yeah...it`s pretty cool....750,000 political operatives and media descending on 750 iowans who will take part in this fiasco......

having coffee clatches and pulling one another`s pud...

a shamockery.....

the dem nominee is hillary...book it...all this other stuff is media mental masturbation...

the republican nominee?....who knows...but the democratic operatives in the msm want it to be huckleberry very badly...with mccain as their back-up........and understandably so....they`ll beat him to death with his baptist minister/bible thumper/dog killer son baggage and hillary will fulfill her destiny.....and mccain is more liberal than he is conservative....


many,like myself...the true conservatives,won`t even bother going to bat or to the polls for the liberal podunk huckleberry....maybe not even mccain...

very shrewd plan...

we could save alot of time,money and histrionics and just innaugurate queen hillary...

Who do you like, Weasel?
 

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hey smurph

i think your girl is in some deep do do.


I heard one lady voter on camera say that this election was not going to be bought.

Uh lets see Hillary has raised 100 million.

I wonder who that lady could have been referring to.

:scared :0corn :scared
 

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hey smurph

i think your girl is in some deep do do.


I heard one lady voter on camera say that this election was not going to be bought.

Uh lets see Hillary has raised 100 million.

I wonder who that lady could have been referring to.

:scared :0corn :scared

It's OK, I like Obama too. I will support almost any Dem that gets nominated this year.

Your odd rage and crusade against Hillary says more about you than her.
 

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It's OK, I like Obama too. I will support almost any Dem that gets nominated this year.

Your odd rage and crusade against Hillary says more about you than her.
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yeh its odd to me you would defend her.

that says more about you than me milkman.
 

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That's a secret huh, ok you spineless little fawking bastard toledo ohio, let me tell you one thing, I will make the best President this country has ever seen. Not popular, you little prick, everyone loves me. What the fawk are you talking about, I am loved by the American people , just for putting up with Bill as long as I have. You just vote me in and see if I don't get the best of everything. Yeh I took furniture when we left the white house, yeh I was involved in so many gates my lawyers got rich, yeh I lie like a rug at times and talk out of both sides of my mouth, but that does not mean I am not the peoples choice. I think you should rethink your position on who will win tonight Byron Toledo, you bloody bastard coward fawker of sheep.


PS did I mention if I win I am going to build a mini tajh mahal inside the grounds of the white house where I will entertain guests. And not you Toledo you rotten tomato can pisswhawker pussycakes.
Sadly, I have no choice but to nominate this as the Mad Jack Sports Post of the Year.

Nice work, KOD!

I will now go into my closet and kill myself.
 

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you know when I really think about it, its not Hillary that brings out the worst in me, its Bill

Just the whole 8 long years of lies, blowjobs, whitewaters, woman, above the law, on and on.

Yeh it made me bitter against any Clinton.

I do like Chelsea alot though. I feel sorry for her.

She must have been through hell with them two as role models.
 

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Sadly, I have no choice but to nominate this as the Mad Jack Sports Post of the Year.

Nice work, KOD!

I will now go into my closet and kill myself.

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at least you have a sense of humor about yourself Judge.

I have read too many books about who Hillary is. Quotes from people that worked for her, from chefs to secret agents, air force etc.

you just cant treat people that way and expect to lead this country.

Go Obama , Huckabee, Ron Paul
 

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YTD: 2-0 :00hour

Just kidding, of course, but all in all a pretty successful thread. Got the winners correct, but I am way more proud of the fact that someone else's post within my lil ole thread got a "post of the year" nomination.

Honestly, Scott, I have not stopped laughing since.....and, I am not going to lie to you, when someone knocked on my door a couple of hours ago, I got a little worried. Grabbed a seven iron as I went to the door, just in case.....as it turns out it was just the pizza guy, although I have been getting steadily dizzier ever since eating it....maybe I am not out of the woods after all. :142smilie

Predictions weren't perfect. McCain fell just short of third. Clinton fell to third behind Edwards, which really did not disappoint me. While Rudy as a dud was dead on, nothing embarassing came from him.....i think he was at a Yankee Fan Fest or something because i am not sure he can find Iowa on a map.

Now, just to be clear, this was not meant to be an actual "pick" thread.....i was just trying to have a little fun and bring the spirit of the handicapping threads over this way. Loved the commentary that you guys added to this and the Caucus In-Game as well.
 
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