Is leftist Hollywood racist????

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I would like to see a breakdown of award winners for the last 20 or so years and see how many minorities these HYPOCRITES have BOTH nominated and won an award and see if it resembles the United States melting pot.

Are the leftists the real racists????
 

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Yeah, I'm red. OK, dude. Love it or leave it, eh. You whine like a liberal.
 

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If liberals are so red, why are your states all painted that way, Freeze? Things that make you wonder.

Gives new meaning to the term "Red Menace."
 

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dr. freeze said:
I would like to see a breakdown of award winners for the last 20 or so years and see how many minorities these HYPOCRITES have BOTH nominated and won an award and see if it resembles the United States melting pot.

Hmm. Let's see...I've put together that list for you, Doctor. Here it is:

Nominations:

1985
Whoopi Goldberg - Actress
Oprah Winfrey - Sup. Actress
Akira Kurosawa - Director

1987
Morgan Freeman - Sup. Actor
Denzel Washington - Sup. Actor

1988
Edward James Olmos - Actor

1989
Morgan Freeman - Actor
Denzel Washington - Sup. Actor (WON OSCAR)
Spike Lee - Writing directly for the screen

1990
Andy Garcia - Sup. Actor
Graham Greene - Sup. Actor
Whoopi Goldberg - Sup. Actress (WON OSCAR)

1991
John Singleton - Director, Writer

1992
Denzel Washington - Actor
Malcolm X - Costume Design

1993
Laurence Fishburne - Actor
Angela Bassett - Actress
Rosie Perez - Sup. Actres

1994
Morgan Freeman - Actor
Samuel L. Jackson - Sup. Actor

1996
Cuba Gooding, Jr. - Sup. Actor

1999
Denzel Washington - Actor

2000
Benicio Del Toro - Sup. Actor (WON OSCAR)

2001
Denzel Washington - Actor (WON OSCAR)
Will Smith - Actor
Halle Berry - Actress (WON OSCAR)

2003
Benicio Del Toro - Actor
Ken Watanabe - Sup. Actor
Shohreh Aghdashloo - Sup. Actress

2004
Don Cheadle - Actor
Jamie Foxx - Actor (WON OSCAR), Sup. Actor
Morgan Freeman - Sup. Actor (WON OSCAR)
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Sup. Actress
Sophie Okonedo - Sup. Actress

2005
Terrence Howard - Actor
Ang Lee - Director (WON OSCAR)

Total of 25 nominations, 7 Oscars; That's about a 30% success rate. The Black population of the US makes up about 15% of the total, so I'd say the numbers are more than reflective of the melting pot. In fact, you might say that Hollywood is overdoing it a bit. And the trend is towards more Black winners, with 4 Oscars in the last five years going to Black performers. Seems as if Hollywood is walking its talk, don't you think? Now, let's look at the pictures.

Best Picture Nominees with Black Themes or Issues since 1967:
1967 - Guess Who?s Coming to Dinner
1967 - In the Heat of the Night (WON OSCAR)
1972 - Sounder
1985 - The Color Purple (8 nominations total)
1988 - Mississippi Burning
1989 - Driving Miss Daisy (WON OSCAR)(8 noms, 3 Oscars total)
2004 - Ray
2005 - Crash (WON OSCAR)

That's 8 nominations, and 3 Oscars. Hard to say that Hollywood is being hypocritical.

I haven?t even bothered to mention those nominees in other categories since 1965 with non-white themes/issues other than Black, e.g., Gandhi, Dances with Wolves, Glory, The Last Emperor, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, etc.
 
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Maybe Dr. Freeze should do his homework before starting rants. Freeze, you really look like a jackass on this one. You judged and labeled and were dead wrong. You lost any remaining credibility that you may have still had.
 

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Re-read his whole post, idiot! God, you make Manson look like a head of a MENSA chapter.
 

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smurphy said:
Re-read his whole post, idiot! God, you make Manson look like a head of a MENSA chapter.

I DID, idiot!

7 winners in 20 years!!!

20 years x approximately 20categories/year and you have 400 winners.

Thats 7/400 and for you arithmetic challenged -- 2%

35 nominations out of a total of over a thousand nominated....WOW!!!

thats still about 2-3%!!!
 

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and let's not forget that while Driving Miss Daisy did win 3 Oscars, it was a movie about servitude.

Were they embracing the idea?

How come we see the same names of black actors nominated time and time again.. Denzel, Freeman, etc... it makes it look like they are just putting it up there for show.
 

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marine said:
How come we see the same names of black actors nominated time and time again.. Denzel, Freeman, etc... it makes it look like they are just putting it up there for show.

Well I think part of it is that those two (and Foxx will likely be added to this list in the future) are the ones that get first offer on the "meaty" black roles. Just like how it is unlikely you'll ever see a Vince Vaughn or Will Ferrell ever get a best actor nomination, but guys like Pacino (eight noms, one win) or De Niro (Six noms, two wins) have plenty... the types of roles they are offered compared to what the Academy tends to honor.
 

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dr. freeze said:
LOL 7 winners????

In 20 years?

Thats about 7 for 400!!!

Less than 2%

LMAO nice try
20 Categories? Where did you come up with that. He was only listing from the main 5 or so categories. Your making up the 20 to serve your own ridiculous idea of trying to prove some strange point.

You belong in Canada. Please take that Colorado high school teacher with you.
 

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So I'm assuming you'll be joining Jesse Jackson for a Hollywood boycott, Dr. Freeze?
 

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dr. freeze said:
20 years x approximately 20categories/year and you have 400 winners.

You forgot the ten other categories in the Scientific and Technical Achievement awards!

But don't stop there. Let's look at every job in Hollywood, from the set builder to the guy that gets mineral water and a fruit plate for Mr. Spielberg. That way we can compare apples to oranges.

Actors are actors. Editors are editors. Grips are grips. The true comparison lies in how many black performers there are in society as a whole, and how many are honored with a nomination. Maybe someone could find those numbers.

So, there are alot of blacks getting Oscars lately? Maybe that's because, 1) some blacks are talented, 2) whites are more comfortable with it, and 3) American culture is absolutely FASCINATED by black performers, and has been since the days of the old minstrel shows (the 1840s), when whites wore blackface.

And let's not overlook what Hollywood actually is: a dream machine. It's reason for being is to stoke our collective imagination; maybe to picture a world someday where skin color doesn't matter.

So, if Awards are given to a few more black people by percentage, its not some affirmative action program run amok in the private sector. Somehow, I don't think a white guy could have driven Miss Daisy, or played a negro sharecropper, or been a runaway slave that joins a black regiment. Its just Hollywood rewarding those who have left an impression on us.
 

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It couldn't be that simple, JC. Hollywood must be leftist racist hypocrites. I'm with Freeze and Public Enemy on this one, "burn Hollywood, burn!"
 

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after showing a great disproportionate number of blacks, maybe JC can now show us how few Hispanics have won an Oscar

after all, my initial post included minorities....which is what the leftist is always kicking and screaming about

Hollywood leftists.....the real hypocrites

funny how guys like smurphy will go down in flames defending them even after the numbers are all laid out...then the guy demonstrates how he can't even understnad simple math....not sure how anyone can enter a discussion with this brilliance

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Over/under on the amount of minorities in dr. freeze's neighborhood:


over 2......... -1.40
under 2...... +1.20
 

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Here is a staunch republican, Freeze, who has his party in complete control for years and is always crying the country is messed up because of the liberals. What a joke.
 

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BetterUp said:
Over/under on the amount of minorities in dr. freeze's neighborhood:


over 2......... -1.40
under 2...... +1.20

And we all know why that is, according to him. They simply have not tried hard enough to make it there.

It is exciting to now see him take on the cause of the hispanics in Hollywood, though. So little seen in the gated communities these days.
 
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