There are good people on the left and right, we could rate people from 1 to 10 on both sides, why generalize ? There are hypocrites on the left and right, whats the point ? Most everyone has some racists tendencies, it sounds like you are trying to justify yours. We are what we are, embrace it.
Is leftist Hollywood racist????
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Let me try to understand the Good DR. You are upset because the reds are trying to take over (YOUR) Country. It's not your Country. This great Country that I love belongs to you and I and countless others. The great Rush Limbaugh always says :"words have meaning." I could't agree more. I find that most of the extremist on the left and the right have become and are what they hate about each other. Why don't you get together with that Baldwin Brother from the far left and leave hand and hand. The rest off us will hold the fort, if you decide to come back to the greatest Country in the World.
I think it is evident that Hollywood Themes" are out of America mainstream--Admittedly I was wrong on how bad--thought it would be worst ratings ever--however was just 2nd worse in 20 years.
Saw interesting note on Humpback Mountain--as of day of oscars less than 5% of population had viewed movie--not sure if this is good # or bad--as I am not much into movie/music ratings--having never viewed any award programs--emmys -oscars or whatever.
Saw interesting note on Humpback Mountain--as of day of oscars less than 5% of population had viewed movie--not sure if this is good # or bad--as I am not much into movie/music ratings--having never viewed any award programs--emmys -oscars or whatever.
That shot of Mickey Rooney and his deer-in-headlights expression when watching the fellas was priceless. true dat'.
You seem to mistake my dismantling of silly arguments by confused doctors addicted to buzzwords who should be making their u-haul reservations for defending Hollywood. I could care less about movies, oscars, and political affiliations of actors.dr. freeze said:
Why do you and Bill O'Reilly care so much? Why are you pretending to be outraged over your made up notion that Hollywood is a bunch of racists? It overwhelmingly isn't and you wouldn't care if it was anyway.
Most important, why haven't you made arrangements to move? You are just a big flip-flopper if you don't follow through. Pretty mean to be gettin our hopes up and shlt.
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LOL
Is this your reasoning if a business or college was exclusive: "Minority group A has their own colleges or businesses"
You leftists are too much.
Apparantly your college professor/indoctrinator told you that using your leftist measuring stick only applies to people other than yourselves as you attempt to defend Hollywood for these numbers
Then, instead of admitting to this clear cut case of hypocrisy, you attack and insinuate things about those who present this case of hypocrisy
Unbelievable and yet so very typical of you leftists!!!
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Blacks don't need Hollywood. There taking over sports. Seems like they win lots of music awards to. If they want some more Oscars they may need some more folks trying out as actors. I would say Holly Wood no more then the Righteous of the south are racists.
DOGS THAT BARK said:
Meaningless stats... television ratings in general on the the big 3 channels, NBC,ABC,CBS have been going down for more than a decade because of cable competition. Most sporting events, entertainment special, newscasts etc have slipped in ratings.
If 20% of America ever went to see one movie in the theaters it would probably break every box office record ever. So 5% isn't that bad.
Spending $14 million dollars to make a critically acclaimed movie and grossing $75 million on it, hardly makes it seem like it is out of touch.
It's called an art film. What art film is ever in touch with mainstream American Themes?
Would we be better off without independant artistic films?
I just am not sure what Brokeback detractors want from Hollywood and films in general. You get tons and tons of popcorn movies where your brain can be checked at the concession stand, ones that have no politcal overtones or any uncomfortable material.
I'm tired of all of these liberals from Hollywood voicing their opinion just because a microphone is in their face. They need to support our troops and America or get the hell over to Europe. I understand freedom of speech, but Michael Moore is just a fat fawk who I can't stand.
BetterUp said:
LINE MOVE !!!
Should have got it while it was cheap.
Over 0.......+1700
None........ -2500
Meaningless stats...
Really How about this one the Star Wars movie grossed more than all Best Pic nominees put together.
I will go with you on the "arts film" issue and would venture to say my abiltity to judge art is next to zilch--right in there with those from San Fran's and Hollywood's abilitity to judge the pulse of mainstream america.
Really How about this one the Star Wars movie grossed more than all Best Pic nominees put together.
I will go with you on the "arts film" issue and would venture to say my abiltity to judge art is next to zilch--right in there with those from San Fran's and Hollywood's abilitity to judge the pulse of mainstream america.
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On point of this thread, I disagree with you, freeze. I don't think Hollywood can be pointed to as a bastion for racial or other minority inequalities. I believe most of the morepowerful players in that town are Jewish, aren't they? That's what I have always heard, at least. That being said, I don't like most of those pukes out there that use their public image as a political stepping stone. I still don't understand why the general public look to these people as having an educated opinion. A large majority of these people are not very well educated at all. NOTE: I did not say there were no educated people in the industry.
But I think Hollywood, in general, has been progressive (probably to a fault at times) with their themes and including minorities before it was generally accepted.
But I think Hollywood, in general, has been progressive (probably to a fault at times) with their themes and including minorities before it was generally accepted.
This is the part I don't understand. I believe the general public doesn't care what actors on soapbox think. In fact, I would never even hear their opinions at all if not for O'Reilly or DTB posting what they think.dawgball said:
And how many of these celebrities go off on political rants? Seems like just a handful - a small unimportant percentage of an industry that, bottom lime, is like all other indistries and is simply looking to make money.
Nobody looks to celebrities as a watermark for for how they'll vote or as a source of their news. Don't believe the hype.
Holly wood did lead the fight for Aids and Alzheimer before it was popular to do it. And now stem cell. And yes at times some of them mouth off. But guys like Lushbibbob and O'Riley do it every day.
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Forgive me, Doctor, if I have said anything offensive, or seemed to attack you personally in any way. I don't recall if I did, but if I gave that impression, I was wrong. Your arguments are interesting, and it was to them that I spoke.
I make no claim to defend Hollywood. In fact, alot of what it does is indefensible, in my opinion. You label Hollywood as "leftist," a charge with which I agree. Whether they are hypocritical is more a matter of opinion.
You only mentioned one of my various arguments, and here's my response. I think its a silly comparison to equate Hollywood's Oscars to some sort of business hiring practice.
There is no invidious business discrimination going on here. If the Oscars were some form of illegal discrimination, don't you think the Plaintiff's Bar would be all over it? You bet. Like the paparazzi on a Michael Jackson sighting.
DOGS THAT BARK said:Meaningless stats...
Really How about this one the Star Wars movie grossed more than all Best Pic nominees put together.
I will go with you on the "arts film" issue and would venture to say my abiltity to judge art is next to zilch--right in there with those from San Fran's and Hollywood's abilitity to judge the pulse of mainstream america.
Right. You will get no argument that Brokeback wasn't a HUGE grosser, but I just don't think you can infer THAT much from that stat. Most romance movies (which this more or less was) don't gross as much as Sci-Fi Action blockbusters. It was rated R (due to strong anal themes!), and that automatically rules out kids seeing it (I hope).
Just because it isn't a family film, doesn't mean it is out of touch with mainstream America.
And yes I am from San Francisco, but I am not unable to understand mainstream America. I've been to Walmart.... once.
