Israel gets all the money

[smurphy]

We should never turn our backs on Israel. We should not let Islam or fear of Islam determine who our friends are. F**k Muhammed. ...and whatevr happened to Prince Naseem Hammed? Dude was all that - then got whooped by Barrera and dissappeared. He's an embarrasment to the Muslim faith.

Sincerely,
Saul

 

[Keith 1]

We should never turn our backs on Israel. We should not let Islam or fear of Islam determine who our friends are. F**k Muhammed

Sincerely,
Saul

amen to that.

 

[Amfan1]

I guess my point in all of this is that this country has to start looking at new ways of doing things, including who we get into bed with. This means we should be examining all of our policies and coming up with a plan that makes since for us and the rest of the world.
We are the only country in the world that can effect serious change. That is the fact. If we need to continue to support Israel as part of our new way of thinking; fine. But don't justify it by saying "that is the way it has always been.|" We need more justification then that.
As far as the rest of the Mid east is concerned, we need to get serious about not being dependent on that region for our energy needs. When the money truly stops flowing, there ways will change.
Of course, with an oil man as President... good luck on that one.

 

[gardenweasel]

It is in America's best interests to support the one stable democracy in the region. That has absolutely nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with strategic alliances.

yes they are stable alright if you listen to our news networks. People don't become terrorist just because they are loop jobs. They usually turn into terrorist when they get screwed with. Or Occupied. Kinda like what we are doing now and now we see many more terrorist. its strange how the Isreal people like the american people just want peace but we both have rotten governments that dont want peace. the people of Isreal said lets talk to Hamas and see what they want. The govt said no. Kinda sound familiar?

actually,osama bin laden stated that he wants us out of saudi arabia,kuwait.....

out of the middle east....

do we allow bin laden....to make american foreign policy decisions?...does saudi arabia?.....kuwait?...u.a.e?....jordan?

since when does bin laden decide who saudi arabia...or any arab nation does business with?...

if you`re saying we should abandon iraq,israel,saudi arabia,afghanistan,kuwait,the uae,because of terrorism,you`re insane....

you really think that appeases them?...or emboldens them?...

have israel`s concessions helped?....

.btw...someone please explain how we can side with anyone that believes another country doesn`t have a right to exist?...

is it realistic to expect israel to just allow itself to be pushed into the sea?...and what does that say to our other allies if we start turning our backs on other democracies...

the palestinians should have their state...

but,do you condone genocide to achieve that end?....

 

[The Sponge]

We should never turn our backs on Israel. We should not let Islam or fear of Islam determine who our friends are. F**k Muhammed. ...and whatevr happened to Prince Naseem Hammed? Dude was all that - then got whooped by Barrera and dissappeared. He's an embarrasment to the Muslim faith.

Sincerely,
Saul

You sound like Liberman. You two wouldn't happen to be jewish would you? didn't isreal get caught selling arms to China behind our backs?

 

[djv]

They did, an spied on us and got caught. If there were not over 11 million Jews in our country that control a ton of wealth. Much gave by us to them. We would not even blink. Should we let them go down. Of course not. On the other hand they could listen better and stay out of trouble.

 

[The Sponge]

They did, an spied on us and got caught. If there were not over 11 million Jews in our country that control a ton of wealth. Much gave by us to them. We would not even blink. Should we let them go down. Of course not. On the other hand they could listen better and stay out of trouble.

Dj we need Eddie Haskell to straighten this whole mess up.

 

[Keith 1]

over 11 million Jews in our country that control a ton of wealth. Much gave by us to them.

Are you gonna tell us that the Jews control the media too ?

P.S. with respect to the 11 million + Jews that live here, is it not "their" country too ? And who is the "us" that "gave" all that money to "them" ?

 

[Amfan1]

They did, an spied on us and got caught. If there were not over 11 million Jews in our country that control a ton of wealth. Much gave by us to them. We would not even blink. Should we let them go down. Of course not. On the other hand they could listen better and stay out of trouble.

Well said. Nothing against Jews or any other religion. Theirin lies the problem...religion, emboldened with a boatload of cash. We are not the ones to solve this religous fight. We can solve the money problem.

 

[Keith 1]

Why, after all these years, are we still giving Israel more money than any other country receives in aid

not a true statement. As per Wikipedia (topic: Israel-United States relations)--

After Iraq, Israel has been the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid since 1976

 

[Amfan1]

not a true statement. As per Wikipedia (topic: Israel-United States relations)--

After Iraq, Israel has been the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid since 1976

Iraq only moves to the head of the list because of what we are spending now, and in the first gulf war. If not for that, Israel gets more money.

 

[gardenweasel]

btw...the premise of the thread is flawed.....

anybody know how much aid the pali`s get from the west alone?.......

check it out....n.y.times...


Aid to Palestinians Rose Despite an Embargo

""Despite the international embargo on aid to the Palestinian Authority since Hamas came to power a year ago, significantly more aid was delivered to the Palestinians in 2006 than in 2005, according to official figures from the United Nations, United States, European Union and International Monetary Fund.

Instead of going to the Palestinian Authority, much of the money was given directly to individuals or through independent agencies like the World Food Program.

The International Monetary Fund and the United Nations say the Palestinians received $1.2 billion in aid and budgetary support in 2006, about $300 per capita, compared with $1 billion in 2005.

While the United States and the European Union have led the boycott, they, too, provided more aid to the Palestinians in 2006 than 2005. Washington increased its aid to $468 million in 2006, from $400 million in 2005.

The European Union and its member states alone are subsidizing one million people in the West Bank and Gaza, a quarter of the population, as part of their effort to avoid creating a catastrophe from the embargo.

Asked if the European Union could spend any more money on the Palestinians if it recognized the new Palestinian government than it does now, a senior European diplomat laughed and said, “We’d probably spend less.”

One side effect of the redirected aid, some officials said, is that while starvation has been avoided, institutions are withering and a culture of dependence is expanding.

In 2007, the United Nations began a humanitarian appeal for the Palestinians of more than $450 million, twice the 2006 appeal, the third largest United Nations request, after Sudan and Congo, ahead of 18 other disasters.

“These numbers are quite stunning,” said Alexander Costy, head of coordination for ?lvaro de Soto, the United Nations special Middle East envoy, “given the relatively small size of the population of the Palestinian territory.”

He added: “What we do know for sure is that Palestinians, and their economy and society, are becoming increasingly dependent on humanitarian handouts, and this dependency is growing fast. For a state in the making, I think this was a step backwards in 2006 and a cause for alarm.”

The International Monetary Fund and the United Nations estimate that direct budgetary support to the Palestinian Authority in 2006 was about $740 million, more than double the $350 million in 2004 and 2005.""

 

[Keith 1]

btw...the premise of the thread is flawed.....

anybody know how much aid the pali`s get from the west alone?.......

check it out....n.y.times...


Aid to Palestinians Rose Despite an Embargo

""Despite the international embargo on aid to the Palestinian Authority since Hamas came to power a year ago, significantly more aid was delivered to the Palestinians in 2006 than in 2005, according to official figures from the United Nations, United States, European Union and International Monetary Fund.

Instead of going to the Palestinian Authority, much of the money was given directly to individuals or through independent agencies like the World Food Program.

The International Monetary Fund and the United Nations say the Palestinians received $1.2 billion in aid and budgetary support in 2006, about $300 per capita, compared with $1 billion in 2005.

While the United States and the European Union have led the boycott, they, too, provided more aid to the Palestinians in 2006 than 2005. Washington increased its aid to $468 million in 2006, from $400 million in 2005.

The European Union and its member states alone are subsidizing one million people in the West Bank and Gaza, a quarter of the population, as part of their effort to avoid creating a catastrophe from the embargo.

Asked if the European Union could spend any more money on the Palestinians if it recognized the new Palestinian government than it does now, a senior European diplomat laughed and said, ?We?d probably spend less.?

One side effect of the redirected aid, some officials said, is that while starvation has been avoided, institutions are withering and a culture of dependence is expanding.

In 2007, the United Nations began a humanitarian appeal for the Palestinians of more than $450 million, twice the 2006 appeal, the third largest United Nations request, after Sudan and Congo, ahead of 18 other disasters.

?These numbers are quite stunning,? said Alexander Costy, head of coordination for ?lvaro de Soto, the United Nations special Middle East envoy, ?given the relatively small size of the population of the Palestinian territory.?

He added: ?What we do know for sure is that Palestinians, and their economy and society, are becoming increasingly dependent on humanitarian handouts, and this dependency is growing fast. For a state in the making, I think this was a step backwards in 2006 and a cause for alarm.?

The International Monetary Fund and the United Nations estimate that direct budgetary support to the Palestinian Authority in 2006 was about $740 million, more than double the $350 million in 2004 and 2005.""

all this aid gives them plenty of time to sit around making bombs, and otherwise thinking of ways to use their women and children as human detonators for those bombs.

 

[djv]

If he is counting 600 billion spent on war as aid. The us is every American. You know dam well money talks.

 

[The Sponge]

all this aid gives them plenty of time to sit around making bombs, and otherwise thinking of ways to use their women and children as human detonators for those bombs.

keith i have to give them credit. they found a way to nuetralize stealth's, apatcheys, and everythig our intelligence's agency have to offer. You think if they had wath we had they would result to suicide bombings?

 

[Keith 1]

keith i have to give them credit. they found a way to nuetralize stealth's, apatcheys, and everythig our intelligence's agency have to offer. You think if they had wath we had they would result to suicide bombings?

yes I do. They do not value human life the way we do. Any culture that has parents ENCOURAGE their children to strap bombs on their bodies in order to kill themselves along with as many other innocent civilians as possible, would not act any differently otherwise. The concept of becoming a martyr for the cause (and getting all those virgins in heaven) is more appealing to them then any material items on this earth. Sad but true.

 

[Keith 1]

From Sunday's New York Daily News

From Sunday's New York Daily News

see what I mean !!!!




Tot pushed to be like bomber mom

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BY MATTHEW KALMAN in Jerusalem and CORKY SIEMASZKO in New York
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Sunday, March 25th 2007, 4:00 AM



The next wave of Palestinian suicide bombers could include little girls with ribbons in their hair.

Three years after Reem Saleh al-Riyashi blasted into infamy as the first Palestinian mother to launch a suicide bomb attack, her 4-year-old daughter is being primed to follow in her fanatical footsteps.

And in an apparent bid to sell another generation on mad martyrdom, a shocking new music video that depicts little Duha Riyashi serenading her mommy while she suits up for her suicide mission is being aired repeatedly on Hamas' Al-Aqsa TV - the official station of the new Palestinian prime minister.

"My love will not be words," the Duha character sings at the end of the video, when she opens a drawer and finds a stick of explosives. "I will follow mommy in her steps."

Duha herself revealed the extent of the brainwashing she has already endured in a March 8 television interview. Sitting beside her fidgety brother and wearing a green ribbon in her hair, she dutifully declared that her mother was in "paradise" and needed only a little encouragement to recite a poem titled "Mama Reem."

"Reem, you are a fire bomb, your children and submachine gun are your motto," the little girl chanted.

Al-Riyashi, a 22-year-old mother of two, killed herself and four Israelis in January 2004 when she smuggled explosives hidden under her robes past soldiers at a Gaza border crossing - and detonated her deadly payload.

"It was always my wish to turn my body into deadly shrapnel against the Zionists and to knock on the doors of heaven with the skulls of Zionists," Al-Riyashi said in her farewell video. "God gave me two children and I loved them so much. Only God knew how much I loved them."

At the time, a high-ranking member of the Al Aqsas Martyrs Brigade told The Daily News his group had helped the militant Muslim group Hamas train Al-Riyashi.

In the dramatized music video, an actress playing Duha sings as her mother dons her explosives.

"Mommy, what are you carrying in your arms instead of me?" she sings. "A toy or a present for me?"

Later, the young girl sees a TV report of the bombing and realizes her mother is dead. She cries for her, begging for her to come back and tuck her - and her brother, Muhammed - into bed.

"Instead of me you carried a bomb in your hands. Only now, I know what was more precious than us. May your steps be blessed," she sings.

Ken Jacobson of the Anti-Defamation League said militant Hamas has aired videos glorifying suicide bombers in the past, but this was a new low.

"If ever there was a wakeup call to reject any connection to this terrorist group, it would be viewing this horrific piece," he said.

Nadia Rasheed, a spokeswoman for the Palestinian mission to the United Nations, did not return a call for comment.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

They do not value human life the way we do. Any culture that has parents ENCOURAGE their children to strap bombs on their bodies in order to kill themselves along with as many other innocent civilians as possible, would not act any differently otherwise. The concept of becoming a martyr for the cause (and getting all those virgins in heaven) is more appealing to them then any material items on this earth. Sad but true.

Keith: You started off on the wrong foot (valuing human life) but regained your stride at the very end. The suicide bombers are simply following their religious beliefs. That's why this "War on Terror" is an utter joke. It is a war on Islamic fundamentalists......which won't be going away any time soon....which means we won't be able to "win" the War on Terror any time soon.

BTW: Jesus tells everyone to give up their possessions....but that's one of Jesus's teachings that Christians don't care for. Unlike Islamic fundamentalists, Christians prefer to cherry-pick the Bible and choose the teachings they want to follow. Christianity would be every bit as deadly if the Holy Bible were followed as written. Check out the history of the Inquisition if you need further clarification.

 

[djv]

The thing that get's me is how we get the chit, right or wrong. Every-time Israel kicks some ass. That area of world blames us for half of the problems. And with money and military add we give them it looks to one sided. I guess we could join by training suicide bombers for Israel to use. Then each side could only use same tactics. All tanks and planes must be left in garage.

 

[smurphy]

The measuring of the aid we export is skewed. We give more than any aid package to Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Kuwait in the form of oil money. We all give to those countries every time we fill up. A percentage of that money funds terrorism throughout the region. This is proven over and over again. We fund Israel and we fund the people trying to blow them up. We fund pretty much everything.