I've lost all respect for GSP

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You know, I've never really liked GSP because I thought he was fake. Came off as a nice guy but I got annoyed by his complaints for his losses. However, I was always able to respect that he was a good fighter.

With that being said, after hearing all these comments from BJ Penn's camp, and most importantly former opponents such as Mayhem Miller, Sherk, Serra all saying that they thought GSP was greasing just pisses me off.

I thought maybe it was a corner thing or something of that nature. However, the fact that several fighters have all claimed that GSP greased leaves me to believe that there's validity and consistancy to it. So don't give me the "excuses" or "sore loser" comment because if people keep saying it, they aren't just making it up 100%...lets be real

There are video's of it against BJ and Matt Serra...video's that nobody can refute.

It should also be noted that Tito Ortiz accused Rashad of the same thing in the interview after their fight.

GSP and his cornermen are classless pieces of shit
 
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dewds rolling around with other deeewwwwds...sometimes they get a little chafed y'know?
 

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The NSAC's Kizer said they saw it between rounds 2 and 3 after someone pointed it out. They whipped him down, but when you see him whipe GSP down, it looks like whiped him down instead of rubbing him down.

There's video of his cornerman doing it in the PENN/SERRA fight, but Miller + Sherk have said they thought he was greasing.

I am not making excuses for BJ Penn. He lost, got his ass kicked. However, it doesn't change the fact that what they were doing is clearly cheating and it makes the sport look really bad. People will compare it to Maragito or whatever the hell his name is.
 
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here are the gifs: http://ninjashoes.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57893

i remember while watching the fight, thinking "why do penn's legs keep slipping off?" i bet on penn, and was glad to see him wrap his legs right around the armpit area of gsp, but was upset when they inexplicably rolled off every time, this can be partially explained by gsp's superior strength, but this issue can't be brushed off.

this is a big issue imo.
 
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i remember while watching the fight, thinking "why do penn's legs keep slipping off?" i bet on penn, and was glad to see him wrap his legs right around the armpit area of gsp, but was upset when they inexplicably rolled off every time, this can be partially explained by gsp's superior strength, but this issue can't be brushed off.

I was wondering the same thing during the fight. I kept yelling at the screen every time he lost the triangle attempts.
 

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I'll admit, I didn't know anything until after the fight. I did know that when I look back, I said to myself in the 1st round after BJ had that rubber guard in that GSP just got out of it easy. I didn't think of anything at the time, but hindsight is pretty relevant..
 

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Bucs never had any respect for GSP.....how can you lose respect when you never had any respect in the first place:mj07:


Also.....if anyone thinks this changed the fight knows nothing about MMA....Penn got destroyed.

And just read this article....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8107&zoneid=13

If you still think that GSP had an advantage after you read this then well nothing will change your mind:shrug:

Also....Hughes talking about GSP being "greasy" is downright hilarious. Umm he stood with GSP and got toyed with.....Highes is an asshole.....enough said:)


This whole issue just makes me laugh. I mean do you really think GSP has been full of vaseline, WD 40, KY Jelly, Quaker State, or whatever for all his fights....I mean please.

Everyone except Bucs likes GSP, and if you think the only reason GSP is number 1 MMA fighter on the planet is because he's a vaseline whore then you have about the same IQ as a 1 month fetus.


In fact this post may go down as one of the funniest I have read. And I have read some funny ones on here:)


Note: I made sure all the KY Jelly was removed after GSP and I were done.
 

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This is exactly what I expected. I expected a "it wouldn't make a difference, GSP is great," response. That's not the point Kickserv...

The point is, he cheated. It doesn't matter if you win, lose, or draw. The fact of the matter is that GSP and his cornermen are greasing their guys. It makes a difference.

Tito claimed he thought Rashad was greasing
Hughes, Miller, Penn, Sherk, and Serra all claim that they thought GSP was greased. What gives? Do you think every fighter was just making it up? COME ON, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN IQ OF A 1MONTH FETUS to believe that.

There are alot of fighters that I don't like, but respect their abilities.
 

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Fair enough:SIB

All I can say is it wasn't my fault....I always give GSP a good rub down when I'm done with him:142smilie
 

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The big question is why have none of these fighters brought it up to the refs during the fight???
If GSP is oiled up then I would think it would be easy to spot or feel for a ref(would it not).
Kind of like greasing the baseball, someone has to ask to check it during the game.NOT AFTER.
 

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Bucs, your thread is so funny i cant believe you're serious!!!:mj07: :142smilie You never like or had any respect for GSP so as Kick said how could you lose respect on someone when you had no respect at all at first!!:mj07: GSP cheating??? Seriously... funny shit...:mj07: :142smilie Weird that no refs has ever done anything about it? Guess he isnt that greasy.... (Maybe he's using KY?) :mj07: :142smilie An IQ of a 1 month fetus Kick? Damn, you're generous!!!!!:142smilie :mj07:
 

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You guys are complete idiots. The NSAC is the ones who caught him and his corner. I don't give a damn what a referee see's. They're there to ref the fight. If Kizer and the NSAC says he was greasing and there's video's of his corner doing it, the proof is irrefutable.

FACE THE FACTS, YOUR BOY TOY IS A CHEATER
 

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Penn has been quoted as saying the vaseline had no effect on the outcome of the fight, so for the people attacking him for making excuses is b.s. (not here, but elsewhere)..

According to JD Penn, the complaint was filed in hopes that the athletic commission will tighten up their standards AND so this shit wont happen again.... this makes perfect sense b/c if Hughes would have filed a complaint instead of waiting until now to take shots at GSP then this shit would have been cleared up a while ago..

kickserv is right, Hughes is full of it....... for a guy that says anything and everything he wants, he never mentioned that GSP greased against him two times in a row...:confused: :rolleyes:
 

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Nobody here is claiming that it effected the outcome of the fight. However, it's cheating and illegal....most importantly ILLEGAL

that's why i said 'not here, but elsewhere.' People wont shut up with the 'Penn cant take a beating w/o making excuses' and so on and so on...

and yes, it's cheating, but i blame it on the cornerman not GSP...... I think the cornerman should be punished accordingly b/c the vaseline was on his fingers, not kickserv's.... i mean not GSP's :D
 

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Maybe GSP just wants to be lubed and ready at all times in case the mood hits Kickserv.

If GSP corner was indeed doing this then GSP had to know. Not sure UFC would ever suspend GSP these days. NSAC won't come down on him for this.
I smell a warning at best.
 
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