Joe Biden believes it is "patriotic" to pay higher taxes!

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So Joe --

Why don't you voluntarily pay higher taxes yourself?

HYPOCRITE!:nono: :nono:

Why would you "give 95% of Americans" the order to be less patriotic?
:scared :scared :scared

(But yes lets ignore you will raise capital gains taxes...and other taxes)

By the way, I can't think of a worse time to raise the capital gains tax. -- Great Idea!:142smilie :142smilie

These buffoons (Biden and Obama) have no idea of the reality of today's market. They are Jimmy Carter's cousins still stuck in 1978 and would like to have us all at the back of a gas line waiting our turn.:nono: :nono: :nono:
 

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Bush is fighting a war he can't pay for. Iraq is a killing us. Have to pay for it somehow.
 

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I believe Biden was saying it was more patriotic for "wealthier Americans" to pay higher taxes. Still laughable and somewhat predictable.
 

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Those that have got stupid rich from tax hand out from Bush. It's time to be patriotic. Well lets see those at 280000 is where about it starts. Yup they wont miss a thousand. Joe already said he's willing. Warren Buffet already said Bush tax breaks for super rich was like stealing. He to said he should be paying more as his buddy Steve Jobs did to. They both said with out this great country to live in they may not have what they do to day.
That is Patriotic.
 

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DJV do you have a link to Buffet saying that or where he's quoted as saying that.

The problem isn't with the tax money being collected. God knows there is plenty. Its with a grossly inefficient federal government that cant stop spending. Bush should have used his veto pen a lot more before the Dems took control of Congress. I would think less money being taken out of someone's wallet would = more purchasing power thereby increasing tax revenues.


Just curious. What % of someone's income should be taxed by the federal gov't? What is the most they should have to give back? 20% ? 30% ?

Cut out the efing pork.
 

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He said this back a while doing interview with a gal Quick I think on CNBC.
Yes real answer is drop tax code as it is and go to flat tax or a fair tax.
 

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Thanks DJV. I'll google Becky Quick. Always wanted to.

I agree fully. I would love to see the Fairtax implemented. Consumption based. I like it.
 

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Those that have got stupid rich from tax hand out from Bush. It's time to be patriotic. Well lets see those at 280000 is where about it starts. Yup they wont miss a thousand. Joe already said he's willing. Warren Buffet already said Bush tax breaks for super rich was like stealing. He to said he should be paying more as his buddy Steve Jobs did to. They both said with out this great country to live in they may not have what they do to day.
That is Patriotic.

First of all most people don't get rich from tax hand outs you moron, they get rich from hard work.

And at 280k it's not going to be a 1k increase in taxes. 1k would be around a 1/3% jump...it's going to be much, much higher.


But I wouldn't expect you to understand djv. What with your 5th grade education level and inability to spell words my 8 year old nephew can.
 

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Yeah, Warren Buffet. There is a blowhard if I have ever seen one. (Along with Biden)

That guy sure didn't voluntarily pay taxes while he was making money and getting rich.

Yet another hypocrite.

Sure, if I had billions I wouldn't care if other people who were trying to get them and their families' ahead got taxed either. Take it from Warren.

No I will do my patriotic duty and make money and spend it as I see fit. I will also give it as I see fit. I feel I do a better job than the disastrous government at managing my own account.

I am being patriotic when I go to a restaurant and give a sizeable tip instead of having that taxed.

I am being patriotic when I go to a business and buy clothes for my family instead of giving it to taxes.

I am being patriotic when I go to the food bank and donate instead of giving it to the feds.

Etc. Etc.

I DON'T NEED BLOWHARD BIDEN AND THE ANGRY LEFT TELLING ME HOW TO SPEND MY MONEY!

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:director: :director:
 

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Yeah, Warren Buffet. There is a blowhard if I have ever seen one. (Along with Biden)

That guy sure didn't voluntarily pay taxes while he was making money and getting rich.

Yet another hypocrite.

Sure, if I had billions I wouldn't care if other people who were trying to get them and their families' ahead got taxed either. Take it from Warren.

No I will do my patriotic duty and make money and spend it as I see fit. I will also give it as I see fit. I feel I do a better job than the disastrous government at managing my own account.

I am being patriotic when I go to a restaurant and give a sizeable tip instead of having that taxed.

I am being patriotic when I go to a business and buy clothes for my family instead of giving it to taxes.

I am being patriotic when I go to the food bank and donate instead of giving it to the feds.

Etc. Etc.

I DON'T NEED BLOWHARD BIDEN AND THE ANGRY LEFT TELLING ME HOW TO SPEND MY MONEY!

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:director: :director:

Pay some taxes ya fukin stiff. You got an education with my tax dollars (free handout) and you didn't have to do shit to get it but fill out a few forms. Now you don't want to pay shit after all of us had to dip in our wallets to front you the money. From my view point i would have rather spent the money you received in Iraq instead of some greedy prick Doctor who should be ashamed of himself. Nothing personal.
 

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Bring the Buffet deal back again--do search on thread from past and you'll see how it ended.

Believe we had his quote on secretary paying more taxes than him brought to light among other destortions--

Some How they got away from your topic Doc on 1st reply and took it immediately to bush--again :142smilie
 

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heres about the 3rd rebuttle on Buffet--
give a couple months and they try it again--case Arkansas alzheimer they caught in last admin :)

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324786&highlight=buffet+secretary

Yep. And unless Buffett, the only one who knows if he pays more in tax than his secretary is lying, then he pays more than his secretary.

You post blog after blog of people who make assumptions on what the secretary does, ignores payroll taxes and come to the conclusion that you'd rather believe the blog.

And then still think that you're right.

What color do you think the sky is, dtb?
 

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Yeah, Warren Buffet. There is a blowhard if I have ever seen one. (Along with Biden)

That guy sure didn't voluntarily pay taxes while he was making money and getting rich.

Yet another hypocrite.

Sure, if I had billions I wouldn't care if other people who were trying to get them and their families' ahead got taxed either. Take it from Warren.

So, Buffett is a blowhard who didn't voluntarily pay taxes while making money and getting rich. Priceless. If he spoke about lower taxes and keeping more of his billions, I can only assume you would call him a hard worker and a willing taxpayer. He's a hypocrite, huh? Because, why, exactly? He's probably done more and paid more taxes with his business and his personal accounts than 99.9% of the people that you call hard working and successful.

In my opinion, it is a form of patriotism when you, as a millionaire - or just a regular Joe, say that you don't mind paying what you pay, because you have a good life and live in a great country where the common good is helped along by as many people as possible. I can understand the frustration of many - I share that at times - who think their money is not well spent. My personal biggest complaint is that 1/3 of my tax money goes to paying down the national debt - which does absolutely nothing good for anyone except the debt holder, which many times is another country, and sometimes is a direct threat to our way of life.

I think it's pretty hard to qualify what people would do if they kept most of their money. I would think that very few would willingly spend it on large scale group things that make our lives livable, and prosperous, even. People sure keep re-electing representatives that continue to ask for federal money for projects and things in their own territories, rewarding them for the very thing that they complain about on a national scale. THAT, to me, is hypocritical. As long as my street, my town, my state is taken care of, cool. But cut those other things out, that would be good.

Great question asked early on in this thread - how much is a fair amount to pay in tax? I've asked this time and time again in this forum - and no conservatives will say an amount. They just say they should pay less. Easy position to take. And I also ask would they be willing to take an across the board cut in all programs - or most of them at least - until we can balance our books. Have not seen any conservative say yes to that. And they preach about personal responsibility, and only want other things cut that they personally don't like. Why? Mainly because they don't think it benefits them, or the country because of the view they have of it.

Many ways to make and keep a strong country. We've had this system, more or less, for a long time, and we have a great country. What's going on today is pretty scary, but all in all, what we've been doing and paying for years now has worked pretty well.
 

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So Joe --

Why don't you voluntarily pay higher taxes yourself?

HYPOCRITE!:nono: :nono:

Why would you "give 95% of Americans" the order to be less patriotic?
:scared :scared :scared

(But yes lets ignore you will raise capital gains taxes...and other taxes)

By the way, I can't think of a worse time to raise the capital gains tax. -- Great Idea!:142smilie :142smilie

These buffoons (Biden and Obama) have no idea of the reality of today's market. They are Jimmy Carter's cousins still stuck in 1978 and would like to have us all at the back of a gas line waiting our turn.:nono: :nono: :nono:


100% agree McCain will win handily
 

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First of all most people don't get rich from tax hand outs you moron, they get rich from hard work.

And at 280k it's not going to be a 1k increase in taxes. 1k would be around a 1/3% jump...it's going to be much, much higher.


But I wouldn't expect you to understand djv. What with your 5th grade education level and inability to spell words my 8 year old nephew can.

what is a 1/3% jump ????? are you saying that Obama wants to raise taxes 33 % on some people ??????
 
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