'Joe the Plumber' says he has no plumbing license

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Like everything Palin and McCain it's phony!

'Joe the Plumber' says he has no plumbing license

By JOHN SEEWER, Associated Press Writer


HOLLAND, Ohio - Joe the Plumber said Thursday he doesn't have a license and doesn't need one. Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, the nickname Republican John McCain bestowed on him during Wednesday's presidential debate, said he works for a small plumbing company that does residential work. Because he works for someone else, he doesn't need a license, he said.



But the county Wurzelbacher and his employer live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses. Neither Wurzelbacher nor his employer are licensed there, said Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations, which handles plumber licenses in parts of the county outside Toledo.

Wurzelbacher, who voted in the Republican primary and indicated he backed McCain, was cited by the GOP presidential candidate as an example of someone who wants to buy a plumbing business but would be hurt by Democrat Barack Obama's tax plans. Wurzelbacher said he was surprised that his name was mentioned so many other times.

"That bothered me. I wished that they had talked more about issues that are important to Americans," he told reporters gathered outside his home.

Wurzelbacher, 34, said he doesn't have a good plan put together on how he would buy Newell Plumbing and Heating in nearby Toledo.

He said the business consists of owner Al Newell and him. Wurzelbacher said he's worked there for six years and that the two have talked about his taking it over at some point.

"There's a lot I've got to learn," he said.

Wurzelbacher said he started his day with an early morning workout and came back to his suburban Toledo home to do live interviews with TV networks.

Reporters camped out by his house overnight and by midmorning there were 21 people on his driveway surrounding him, holding cameras and notebooks.

Wurzelbacher said he's feeling overwhelmed.

"I'm kind of like Britney Spears having a headache. Everybody wants to know about it," he joked.

In Toledo on Sunday, Wurzelbacher told Obama that he was preparing to buy the plumbing company, which earns more than $250,000 a year, and said: "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

Obama said that under his proposal taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate.

Wurzelbacher said Obama's tax plan wouldn't affect him right now, because he doesn't make $250,000. "But I hope someday I'll make that," he said.

"If you believed (Obama), I'd be receiving his tax cuts," Wurzelbacher said. "But I don't look at it that way. He'd still be hurting others."

As he leaned against the Dodge Durango SUV parked in his driveway Thursday morning, Wurzelbacher indicated to reporters who crowded around that he was a conservative, a fan of the military and McCain. He said meeting McCain would be an honor but said he hadn't been contacted by the Republican campaign.

Still, the plumber wouldn't say who he was voting for and brushed off a question about whether he could influence the election or other voters.

"I don't have a lot of pull. It's not like I'm Matt Damon," Wurzelbacher said.

"I just hope I'm not making too much of a fool of myself," he added

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Stevie i knew something would come up with this fraud. Its so old we just get use to it. This is one of those 20 thousand dollar a year jackasses like Weasel who have billion dollar views. I hope they make a complete ass out of this idiot. It is almost as bad as Weasel collecting disability yet throwing around his intellect like some kind of billion dollar Neo-con. Priceless. Some of these right wingers on this site have legitimate gripes but these guys making 20 thousand a year should be gagged so they could stop making a fool out of themselves.
 

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"I don't have a lot of pull. It's not like I'm Matt Damon," Wurzelbacher said.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081016/ap_on_el_pr/joe_the_plumber


That's for should!

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There is more about this fraud of a plumber :mj07:




Just when you didn't think things could get worse for John McCain - they go in the toilet.

Literally.

So, you remember Joe the Plumber, who John McCain kept relentlessly bringing up. And up. The apparently undecided plumber who had complained to Barack Obama that he couldn't buy his own plumbing company because he'd have to pay 3% more in taxes. The plumber who John McCain lauded as an Everyman while oddly proclaiming "Congratulations! You're rich!" in the midst of a disastrous recession. The fellow who said that Barack Obama "tap dances better than Sammy Davis Jr."

That guy.

Well, it turns out he's the one gliding around the dance floor so much, you should expect to see him soon on "Dancing with the Stars."

You see, Joe Wurzelbacher is apparently related to Robert Wurzelbacher. Who is the son-in-law of (are you ready...?) Charles Keating!

Yes, that Charles Keating. The Charles Keating of the Keating 5 Scandal. For which John McCain was reprimanded by the United States Senate, for his involvement in attempting to illegally influence government regulators. The Charles Keating who John McCain has been trying to avoid have mentioned. So, he basically mentioned it 24 times.

(By the way, lost in all the attention paid to John McCain not getting the same career-ending censure by the Senate, as did the other four defendants - the reason for that is because he'd been in the House of Representatives at the time of his transgression. The Senate decided that they didn't have jurisdiction over him to give the same penalty. So, his career was saved.)

Anyway, back to Robert Wurzelbacher, Joe the Plumber's father. You see, Robert Wurzelbacher was an executive of American Continental Corporation, the parent company of Charles Keating's Lincoln Savings. That's the bank which caused citizens to lose their life savings and cost U.S. taxpayers $3.4 billion. As part of that scandal, Robert Wurzelbacher pleaded guilty to three counts of misapplying $14 million and served 40 months in prison.

And now, Lincoln Savings, Robert Wurzelbacher and Joe the Plumber are back with John McCain.

"Congratulations! You're rich!," indeed.

Never mind that Joe the Plumber has state tax liens files against him. As the court representative says, Joe the Plumber might not even be aware of the lien.

Never mind that Joe the Plumber says he wasn't convinced by Sen. Obama's argument. Given his background, why should he be?

Never mind that Joe the Plumber is concerned about a tax increase if his business makes over $250,000. After all, since any business has an estimated value of five times its annual profit - that means Joe's hoped-for business is valued at $1.25 million. So, either he has that in the bank or can get a loan for its value. (Assuming he can get a loan today, of course...). Though, now you see why John McCain gave Joe the Plumber a shout out, "Congratulations! You're rich!"

But then, maybe John McCain gave Joe the Plumber a shout-out because he wanted to give a boost to a friend's relative. Nice touch.

So, apparently these are the people who John McCain seems to keep palling around with.

Mind you, I thought it odd when John McCain first brought up Joe Wurzelbacher's but then never referred to his last name again. I thought perhaps he'd forgotten it. Or it was too hard to pronounce. Apparently though there was a better reason for him to quit saying the name "Wurzelbacher" 24 times. If only Sen. McCain (R-AZ) had remembered the pesky Tivo, where you can rewind.

Now, in fairness, John McCain might not have known than Joe Wurzelbacher was from that same Wurzelbacher family. He might have thought it was just some regular Wurzelbacher. And who knows, maybe they're not even related?

But never mind all of that. This is an election, and what matters is the votes. And in the end, if John McCain wants the vote of Joe the Plumber, then he'll likely get it. That was his point all night, after all. Of course, he might not getting the votes of many other plumbers.

The United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters has endorsed Barack Obama.

"Obama will help us keep existing jobs and work to develop new, higher paying jobs here in America, reform our health care system, fix our ailing schools and make sure that the pensions of our retirees are safe," the UAPP said.

By the way, as long as we're on the matter of John McCain forgetting the name of Joe Wurzelbacher and who he's related to. There's one other name he forgot at the debate.

Barack Obama.

At the end of the evening, Mr. Obama began his final statement by thanking Sen. McCain and "Bob for moderating." When it was John McCain's time, he too thanked Bob Schieffer by name, then turned to Sen. Obama, looked at him, hesitated briefly, and then sayd, "And you."

At least he didn't say "Joe Wurzelbacher."

For the 25th time.
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And that Eskimo Witch, that gives sluts all over America a bad name, Palin, keeps talking about him like he is the Average American guy they are trying so hard to help. It woud be fun to see that stupid witch explain this away. But the corporate press will not press her or McCain on it.
 

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And that Eskimo Witch, that gives sluts all over America a bad name, Palin, keeps talking about him like he is the Average American guy they are trying so hard to help. It woud be fun to see that stupid witch explain this away. But the corporate press will not press her or McCain on it.

You have to be one of the most ignorant nitwits from the left on this site. You calling Gov Palin names and alluding to her being a slut and all the rest of your ignorant name calling just shows the intellect of your side.

My god I'm so greatful that I am not in anyway associated with any organization that you are a part of.

You are undoubtly the most mentally challenged moron I have ever had the displeasure of having contact with.

What a complete idiot void of any comprehension of intelligience or compassion. You sir, if you are a man, are one the worst of what the democratic party backers have to offer.

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sparta as usual they missed the point of the whole "joe the plumber" conversation with obama...

it wasn`t about "joe the plumber"per se....he said he was an aspiring business owner......it was about any small business man that employs people....and how obama wants to take their money away if they get beyond a certain success level....

a level that this "community organanizer" determines...

this socialist is basically telling businessmen,if you earn more than a cetain amount,we`ll take money from you and give it to spongy and stevie...even though they didn`t move their asses off their couch to earn a penny of it....

persoanlly,i like earning my own living....and i much prefer america to amerika...
 

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You have to be one of the most ignorant nitwits from the left on this site. You calling Gov Palin names and alluding to her being a slut and all the rest of your ignorant name calling just shows the intellect of your side.

My god I'm so greatful that I am not in anyway associated with any organization that you are a part of.

You are undoubtly the most mentally challenged moron I have ever had the displeasure of having contact with.

What a complete idiot void of any comprehension of intelligience or compassion. You sir, if you are a man, are one the worst of what the democratic party backers have to offer.

A SICK SICK INDIVIDUAL

You have to excuse Stevie. Some people get tired of being lied to over and over again. What really burns a guy like Stevie up is seeing people fall for these lies over and over again. It is almost like they have the intellect of a five year old.
 

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he was probably paid by McCain to ask Obama questions.

I wouldnt put it past McCain.

Cheney / Rove inspired set ups .

So easy to see through.

The guy dont have a license . Is not in the Union and has no chance to buy a business or make 250 K

OK Johnny Mac :sadwave:
 

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sparta as usual they missed the point of the whole "joe the plumber" conversation with obama...

it wasn`t about "joe the plumber"per se....he said he was an aspiring business owner......it was about any small business man that employs people....and how obama wants to take their money away if they get beyond a certain success level....

a level that this "community organanizer" determines...

this socialist is basically telling businessmen,if you earn more than a cetain amount,we`ll take money from you and give it to spongy and stevie...even though they didn`t move their asses off their couch to earn a penny of it....

persoanlly,i like earning my own living....and i much prefer america to amerika...

we can't be any more socialist than we have been the last 8yrs....... can we ? bush/cheney threw away billions of working American wealth, like we have never seen before ....
 

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when they talk about the redistribution of wealth, yrs from now... webster will say : see bush cheney administration .....
 

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You have to excuse Stevie. Some people get tired of being lied to over and over again. What really burns a guy like Stevie up is seeing people fall for these lies over and over again. It is almost like they have the intellect of a five year old.

And you don't think you were lied to by your side, grow up and smell what your smoking.

And that's not excuse to act like a five year old yourself.

Man the left wing nutjobs need to grow up.:director: kurby
 

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Is it patriotic, or is it socialism to ask the American tax payers to support young americans who put their lives on the line to to prop up oil companies and defense contractors ???? Does anyone who supports the anti American far right, see the socialism in the bush/ cheney 8 yrs ???? You guys are great at spewing talking points..... DO YOU KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM/REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IS ?????
 

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And you don't think you were lied to by your side, grow up and smell what your smoking.

And that's not excuse to act like a five year old yourself.

Man the left wing nutjobs need to grow up.:director: kurby

would you kindly explain to me the lies that were told to me? Are they the kind of lies like Obama can't speak unless he is infront of a teleprompter? If so you can save it. The problem with a lot of your righties is that you need a president as stupid as you are. Nothing personal.
 

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we can't be any more socialist than we have been the last 8yrs....... can we ? bush/cheney threw away billions of working American wealth, like we have never seen before ....

He doesn't understand that concept. It is breaking his heart that some rich people might have to pay a little more. What do you expect for a guy who is anti american worker? this is the type of stuff the Rush Limbaughs and the Hannity's fill in these dim bulbs mental rolledex.
 

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Is it patriotic, or is it socialism to ask the American tax payers to support young americans who put their lives on the line to to prop up oil companies and defense contractors ???? Does anyone who supports the anti American far right, see the socialism in the bush/ cheney 8 yrs ???? You guys are great at spewing talking points..... DO YOU KNOW WHAT SOCIALISM/REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IS ?????

Yes most intelligent people know but your hatred for bush and cheney make you the dumb ass on this topic.

Get over it and look where President Barack Hussein Obama will take us you dumb ass.:0corn
 

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And you don't think you were lied to by your side, grow up and smell what your smoking.

And that's not excuse to act like a five year old yourself.

Man the left wing nutjobs need to grow up.:director: kurby

It is guys like this POS that is the reason Bush spends $10 billion a month and kills, yes Sparta KILLS 5,000 American soldiers. Idiots like you, probably working for your father-in law, who believe the crap coming out of the right. Turn up your right wing radio you dope and listen as Bush and the right give this country away piece by piece. I am sorry you might have to pay a tax. That's a shame but considering you don't do anything to earn the money I don't really give a rat's ass.
But why should you be offended when McCain and Palin set you up with this Plumber Joe, then stump the country telling us what a great American he is? After all he is just the son in law of Keating!
 

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would you kindly explain to me the lies that were told to me? Are they the kind of lies like Obama can't speak unless he is infront of a teleprompter? If so you can save it. The problem with a lot of your righties is that you need a president as stupid as you are. Nothing personal.

Check the tapes of the debates on the floor of the senate when voting to go to war against Irag, you closed minded bush hater.

Check the debates on oil drilling by your idiot house speaker pelosi and these are just of few of lies told to you.

Dumb ass bush haters are all alike. LMAO:142smilie :142smilie
 
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