John Kerry for President
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John Kerry puts me to sleep by the time he finishes his sentences
Rule #1
Never trust a guy who talks slowly
Rule #2
Never trust a guy who says "I'm from the government, and I am here to help you"
"Help.............Is.............On...........The..........Way.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Rule #1
Never trust a guy who talks slowly
Rule #2
Never trust a guy who says "I'm from the government, and I am here to help you"
"Help.............Is.............On...........The..........Way.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
So I guess Bush entertains you with his inability to speak? Or is it the words he makes up? You may like his ideals, but you have to admit he leaves you shaking your head and saying tell me the dumbass just didn't do it again.
its funny how liberals put their trust with the two most dishonest organizations
1. The government/politicians
2. Lawyers
i prefer to take power away from them as much as i can.....and when someone from the government tells me that "help is on the way" i want to cringe
1. The government/politicians
2. Lawyers
i prefer to take power away from them as much as i can.....and when someone from the government tells me that "help is on the way" i want to cringe
I'd rather be bored by a President I can trust than on my toes with one wrecklessly sendng us to war and bankrupting the nation.
I'd rather have a President sold out to a ketchup company than one sold out to an oil company.
I'd rather have a snooty New England flip-flopper than a sub 100 IQ downhome Texan with a DUI record.
I'd rather have a President sold out to a ketchup company than one sold out to an oil company.
I'd rather have a snooty New England flip-flopper than a sub 100 IQ downhome Texan with a DUI record.
No - he's for alternative fuels and conservation.
Alaska would not yeild enough oil for us to last more than 3 years (according to MOST legitimate studies). Plus - it would be more expensive to get and more expensive to refine. It only delays the inevitable - which is that OIL WILL RUN OUT.
We need to make a transition, and Kerry proposes more research and greater efficiency standards.
Alaska would not yeild enough oil for us to last more than 3 years (according to MOST legitimate studies). Plus - it would be more expensive to get and more expensive to refine. It only delays the inevitable - which is that OIL WILL RUN OUT.
We need to make a transition, and Kerry proposes more research and greater efficiency standards.
smurphy said:
how about a president sold out to the trial lawyers which raise prices on everything you buy rather than a company who fuels your car
not sure how we recklessly went to war....after 20 some odd ultimatums and defiance it seems that is not too reckless....
and bankrupting the nation? i agree with you there somewhat...the health care plan is ridiculous but Kerry will bankrupt the nation more IMO
i bet Bush's IQ ranges in the 110's myself with Kerry's in the upper 120's....lets be intellectually honest.....but leadership of America requires trustworthiness and personally i trust neither of these guys, but i find Bush to be somewhat more trustworthy
smurphy said:
well, government mandated research never has worked...check out how Russia's nuclear sub program worked.....
i say trust the enterprising spirit of Americans....it seems that this has not let us down in the last century.... a pretty good track record....right now as we speak research is already being conducted.....
we cant force it to go faster....if you do you get disaster....
right now we have to deal with the cards that are dealt....and unfortunately Kerry panders to the environmental wackos and will not drill for oil in Alaska....it will buy precious time as we are not that far off
No strategy for victory or exit. That's as wreckless as Vietnam was.
How? Bush's deficit breaks new records every quarter. How could Kerry be worse? Eliminating the unnecessary tax-cuts by themselves can cut the deficit in half (I think..)
This is not a whacko viewpoint. Alaska is not practical. If we increase standards and conserve while we make real strides in conversion of energy sources - it can be done. We need to be progressive though - and not pander to the oil companies so much.
I really can't compare us to the Russians.
I agree. I'm an entrepreneur myself. But sometimes the government plays a role. - look at the 30's - the CCC etc. - funded projects like the Hoover Dam - provided jobs and ultimately made money. Perhaps we need projects along this line for oil alternatives. (just throwing this idea out there - don't scrutinize it in particular)
smurphy said:
with the tax cut i know my family spent more..(we bought a computer)....this stimulates the economy, creates jobs, and as a result productivity increases and tax revenue shoots up
This worked under Reagan and to an extent Clinton as productivity was very high and people spend money........
Rich people are the prime economic stimulus....they tip the biggest at restaurants, they buy the ridiculously expensive clothes at Sak's...etc. etc....they build hospitals and other charitable works....taking away their money will kill the economy and kill tax revenue....plus it is morally wrong to take hard earned money from the top 5% who pay 50% of the bill already.....the bottom 50% likewise play less than 4% -- is that too much for them to burden?
so if you think tax cuts increased the deficit you dont understand economics...
WWII we had no exit strategy and to my knowledge we still have troops in Germany so once again it is intellectually dishonest to have to think we need an exit strategy for a war....i dont know where this theory came up but i am having a hard time remembering a war in the history of mankind with a clear exit strategy
smurphy said:
Alaska is not practical? are you kidding me?
i disagree with any kind of forced conservation...that certainly is not freedom and it is ironic that people like Kerry who are calling for this are not conserving on their part
Rich peole were already rich and spending. The tax cuts increased our deficit - which multiplies over time and ultimately we will all have to pay more than the original amount in order to get back in balance. That too is basic economics.
Good point about "exit strategy", so I'll just fall back on
1) not a part of the war on terror
2) no significant connection to 9-11
3) no impending threat against us
There isn't enough there to fuel what we would need (unless it's part of an entire program of decreasing our demand)
Well, how about rationing in WW2? Was that a denial of our freedom? Certain times require pragmatic actions.
I agree about the hypocracy. It would be nice if politicians calling for conservation set a better example. It would be nice, but it doesn't change the importance of it.
how much should rich people be taxed then?
the top 5% pay 50% of the burden
the bottom 50% pay less then 4%
that is ridiculous....these are the people who give other people jobs...spend the most money...invest in our country....build hospitals....etc. etc....you take away more of it, and yes they will spend money, but not as much nor will the be as charitable....
and $$ with accountability behind it goes a heck of a lot farther than it does with the government behind it....
Halliburton is a case in point but nearly EVERY government contract wastes MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars...so why give them more? they always will want more and will always spend more than they have? why give them more?????
the top 5% pay 50% of the burden
the bottom 50% pay less then 4%
that is ridiculous....these are the people who give other people jobs...spend the most money...invest in our country....build hospitals....etc. etc....you take away more of it, and yes they will spend money, but not as much nor will the be as charitable....
and $$ with accountability behind it goes a heck of a lot farther than it does with the government behind it....
Halliburton is a case in point but nearly EVERY government contract wastes MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars...so why give them more? they always will want more and will always spend more than they have? why give them more?????
