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I can't remember if in the Kongo/ Barry fight if Kongo went limp and it was allowed to go on or if he was just rocked then came back with the KO

Sometimes in big fights guys should be giving the chance to if they still have fight left in them. But then on the other side of the coin sometimes the ref gives the guy a chance to recover when he clearly should not - example would be Rob McCullough against Olaf Alfonso - and they get hurt more
 

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I guess GW, Sponge, and bucs wanted Kim Winslow to ref that fight:shrug:


Get KO'd and don't want the fight stopped:shrug:



Ya need to protect the fighters when they are KO'd don't cha:shrug:



Great fight nonetheless.

he was out for a second. Again im sure i can go back and see ur thoughts that the KOngo fight was a good ref job. If dean was reffing Kongo would have lost.
 

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I can't remember if in the Kongo/ Barry fight if Kongo went limp and it was allowed to go on or if he was just rocked then came back with the KO

Sometimes in big fights guys should be giving the chance to if they still have fight left in them. But then on the other side of the coin sometimes the ref gives the guy a chance to recover when he clearly should not - example would be Rob McCullough against Olaf Alfonso - and they get hurt more

exactly UK. This was the biggest fight on the card. U don't stop the biggest fight on the card.

Maybe Dana told Herb that if Fedor is in any kind of trouble stop the fight so he can have the pleasure of cutting him:142smilie
 

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I can't remember if in the Kongo/ Barry fight if Kongo went limp and it was allowed to go on or if he was just rocked then came back with the KO

Sometimes in big fights guys should be giving the chance to if they still have fight left in them. But then on the other side of the coin sometimes the ref gives the guy a chance to recover when he clearly should not - example would be Rob McCullough against Olaf Alfonso - and they get hurt more

i didn't even see ur kongo comment until after i posted my post under it :142smilie
 

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If Herb Dean was reffing the Brock/Carwin fight Carwin would have won.


If a guy is knocked out you can never complain about a quick stoppage.

Fedor was out...smashed his head on the canvass and then hit another 4 times.


And you guys want the fight to go on.:shrug:


Refs can't win sometimes:shrug:


Ya get KO'd......you stop the fight.

If the fight goes on fine.


But for fucks sake you can't say it is a "quick stoppage" when a ref stops the fight when a guy is out.


Kim Winslow.....by far the best ref in MMA.:bigun:


Nobody ever complains about stopping the fight too quick when she refs.

One of the best jobs reffing was the Finney fight.
 

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GW....read above......Spongy makes no point at all.



JAN FINNEY WAS NEVER KNOCKED OUT....and was putting up a defense.


kegray and I love Winslow and the way she refs, you like refs that stop fights quick.


Can't have it both ways.


For fucks sake Fedor was KO'd.....man you guys are bad ass........


GW you would be the first complaining about a ref not stopping the fight fast enough.



So if you are knocked out the fight should continue:shrug:

Ok....let's do it:0corn

what happened to finney was punitive punishment...the woman`s face was caved in while she was stuck in the corner and defenseless curled in a ball as the ref let the fight continue for a round and a half....

this was a fight in which everything happened in a blink of an eye....

and truthfully,i don`t want to make an issue of it,but fedor was moving around pretty good when the fight was stopped....he went limp for a second but came back around...he was on his back when dean stepped in...the punch landed while he was on his hands and knees....

i think dean threatening to take a point...and allowing fedor to be held against the fence when nothing was happening for almost 3 minutes combined with the stoppage looked a bit slanted....

but i had money on fedor.....so,i`m biased and i`m not gonna bitch....it`s over and i accept it...

but finney?...not comparable to this....you don`t look very consistent in your opinions,kick....
finney took months to recover....
 
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GW never changes his mind on the Finney fight.

Kegray and kickserv love the job she did.

AND GW did not.


Bottom line I'd have no problem with the fight continuing but you can never say it is a quick stoppage when a guy is knocked out.


And for the 900th time GW.........

Finney came back at Cyborg over and over again after getting smashed.

Winslow did a great job.


YA rather have Winslow reffing or Dean.

Ask any fighter...they'll pick Winslow every time.
 

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GW......if Finney was KO'd I'd agree with ya.


but

she wasn't.



And I think we all would have loved for the Fedor fight to continue, it was a great fight.


But you can't say it is a quick stoppage when ya get KO'd.
 

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i have to see another angle to be honest. i saw the face plant but that could have been just a flash shut down and being off balance. I want to see what happen when everyone got off of him. to me from our angle, it looked like he turned and was just fine. If that was GSP Kick would be screaming from the tallest mountain about a robbery and a rematch.
 

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GW never changes his mind on the Finney fight.

Kegray and kickserv love the job she did.

AND GW did not.


Bottom line I'd have no problem with the fight continuing but you can never say it is a quick stoppage when a guy is knocked out.


And for the 900th time GW.........

Finney came back at Cyborg over and over again after getting smashed.

Winslow did a great job.


YA rather have Winslow reffing or Dean.

Ask any fighter...they'll pick Winslow every time.

the more i think about it,the more i question dean`s ethics....

didn`t we just see dean reffing kongo and barry?...a fight in which kongo looked out twice and dean didn`t step in....kongo was hurt worse...took more punishment than fedor.....he looked out twice....

i don`t like or trust herb dean...
 

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a guy says this to dana after Dana rips Fedor "It might be a BS statement but still......show the guy some respect......you treat him like a piece of dog shit
 

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the more i think about it,the more i question dean`s ethics....

didn`t we just see dean reffing kongo and barry?...a fight in which kongo looked out twice and dean didn`t step in....kongo was hurt worse...took more punishment than fedor.....he looked out twice....

i don`t like or trust herb dean...

he didn't do that fight.
 

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Sponge.............when GSP and I have sex he goes out all the time......he never complains.


As for GSP getting knocked out............those are the same odds of bucs saying something nice about kickserv.
 

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:142smilie

danawhite Fuck you, only fighting you ever did was as a fucking boxercise coach. You don't what it's like to compete you fat bald fag!




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Dana shouldn't bash Fedor....he is over-rated and got exposed again.

But no reason to bash him. His management are the scumbags. Dana links them together. His anger is at them.

Bad move by Dana bashing Fedor...not cool:nono:


Fedor ducked top competition for the longest time but eventually he stepped up. You have to commend him for that.
 

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Dana shouldn't bash Fedor....he is over-rated and got exposed again.

But no reason to bash him. His management are the scumbags. Dana links them together. His anger is at them.

Bad move by Dana bashing Fedor...not cool:nono:


Fedor ducked top competition for the longest time but eventually he stepped up. You have to commend him for that.

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he didn't do that fight.

yeah...i just checked and it was miragliotta.....i thought it was dean.....

but it does show the lack of consistency in ufc reffing......

this is the second time in a row that i was one fight away from cashing out big(bader),and i wet the bed....hit every fight tonight(short of fedor) and basically lost a couple dollars...

think i`ll just cash out medium(given the flux that the ofshore industry is in at the moment)...

my fucking computer keeps crashing...i`m installing the new one tomorrow...thank god....nothing worse than a fucked up computer...

big week next week...congrats to the hendo winners(lucky bastards..:D )...
 
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