June 6th D-Day

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My fathers favorite story that my 2 nephews filmed and taped I watched again tonight, I remember almost the entire story but watching it made me realized its a " living history " that I have and showed some of it to my own kids and grandkids.
It is June 5th and my father is in General Clarks 5th Army and they just captured Rome , My father is a lieutenant assigned with {AMG)allied Military Government. He was in charge of 15-20 US Soldiers and as the Germans retreated southern Italian cities they had captured and held they were retreating town by town. My father would enter Italian villages and small cities and establish a government under Allied forces. From Naples on the Germans were retreating . My father who born in Italy but came over to the US when he was 5. He graduated Manhattan College in 1936 and his degree was Italian and Spanish . He was teaching Italian and Spanish at Teddy Roosevelt HS in the Bronx when the war broke out. He enlisted and went to officers training school and became a AMG officer. He married my mother in 1941 and 3 days later was on a ship to North Africa. He was in the 5th Army and became part of a group of Americans assigned to AMG. He spoke Fluent Italian and had no dialect.Anyway Its in June 5th the day before D-day. He after being in Sicily and Naples with AMG General Clark disobeyed Eisenhower's orders and captured Rome The Germans retreated and left Rome with a battle . Clark was ordered to skip Rome and go after and trap the German Army. By disobeying those orders the entire German Army escaped being surrounded and retreated North.
Clark and his 5th Army marches into Rome and captures the city . He is like the 1st conquering Army to capture Rome since Attila the Hun . My father says they enter the city and 1,000 of Italians are welcoming the allied forces. My father says at the Nord Roma Hotel a 1st class hotel near the train station. It is June 5th that day. My father gets up early that morning and goes down stairs to get a cappopuncinno coffee. He see's another officer at the hotel and is informed the allied forces have landed in Normandy . Its D-day. Everyone knew D-day was coming . It wasn't a surprise . Stalin had been asking for the US and England to open another front . Where they landed was the secret. So many think like my father that Clark wanted to capture Rome before the invasion . But the timing was off. The capture of Rome was big news but like Studs Turkel the great writer said about Clark.. " headlines for a day back pages for a life time " The Atlantic wall had been penetrated and the invasion in France made the capture of Rome seemed less insignificant . So many today are remembering D-Day and the Normandy beaches but the day before Rome was captured. My father never left Rome and was reassigned to investigate the the massacre of 300 Italians a few months before the US captured Rome and than later on an Investigation on Pius X11 and what role he played with the Germans when they occupied Rome. When the war was over he stayed in Rome for 6 months continuing his investigating . Will continue later on about my dad. Sorry this is kinda boring but watching the TV and seeing some of the news high lites of Normandy today had me thinking back ..
 

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Found this. Coming from a Military Family I too am moved by the day.

good article. thank you for sharing it. hopefully americans will never forget that those who fought and died for this country (and to protect democracy around the world) were not "suckers and losers", but absolute heroes.
 

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My fathers favorite story that my 2 nephews filmed and taped I watched again tonight, I remember almost the entire story but watching it made me realized its a " living history " that I have and showed some of it to my own kids and grandkids.
It is June 5th and my father is in General Clarks 5th Army and they just captured Rome , My father is a lieutenant assigned with {AMG)allied Military Government. He was in charge of 15-20 US Soldiers and as the Germans retreated southern Italian cities they had captured and held they were retreating town by town. My father would enter Italian villages and small cities and establish a government under Allied forces. From Naples on the Germans were retreating . My father who born in Italy but came over to the US when he was 5. He graduated Manhattan College in 1936 and his degree was Italian and Spanish . He was teaching Italian and Spanish at Teddy Roosevelt HS in the Bronx when the war broke out. He enlisted and went to officers training school and became a AMG officer. He married my mother in 1941 and 3 days later was on a ship to North Africa. He was in the 5th Army and became part of a group of Americans assigned to AMG. He spoke Fluent Italian and had no dialect.Anyway Its in June 5th the day before D-day. He after being in Sicily and Naples with AMG General Clark disobeyed Eisenhower's orders and captured Rome The Germans retreated and left Rome with a battle . Clark was ordered to skip Rome and go after and trap the German Army. By disobeying those orders the entire German Army escaped being surrounded and retreated North.
Clark and his 5th Army marches into Rome and captures the city . He is like the 1st conquering Army to capture Rome since Attila the Hun . My father says they enter the city and 1,000 of Italians are welcoming the allied forces. My father says at the Nord Roma Hotel a 1st class hotel near the train station. It is June 5th that day. My father gets up early that morning and goes down stairs to get a cappopuncinno coffee. He see's another officer at the hotel and is informed the allied forces have landed in Normandy . Its D-day. Everyone knew D-day was coming . It wasn't a surprise . Stalin had been asking for the US and England to open another front . Where they landed was the secret. So many think like my father that Clark wanted to capture Rome before the invasion . But the timing was off. The capture of Rome was big news but like Studs Turkel the great writer said about Clark.. " headlines for a day back pages for a life time " The Atlantic wall had been penetrated and the invasion in France made the capture of Rome seemed less insignificant . So many today are remembering D-Day and the Normandy beaches but the day before Rome was captured. My father never left Rome and was reassigned to investigate the the massacre of 300 Italians a few months before the US captured Rome and than later on an Investigation on Pius X11 and what role he played with the Germans when they occupied Rome. When the war was over he stayed in Rome for 6 months continuing his investigating . Will continue later on about my dad. Sorry this is kinda boring but watching the TV and seeing some of the news high lites of Normandy today had me thinking back ..
A great story love history
 

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I loved listening to my dad tell his WW2 stories It wasn't about him being a hero etc He was part of AMG which had English,Canadians, and other allied soldiers. He hated Clark and always thought he was a show boat. He also didn't like Patton who although was the most successful US generals in Italy his troops under him were all worried about surviving his tactics. Clark after the war was criticized by many historians as a show boat. Clarks nickname among his soldiers was Hannibal" He was always posing and show boating to the camera's. He had his own PR group and was always not trustworthy of his English partners. My father I think answered to Truscott another American general although was in the 5th Army . He always said there was a lot of animosity between Alexander and Clark Patton and Montgomery the English generals.
Reading the headlines yesterday of all the Normandy Veterans getting heroes welcome in France its just reminded me about my dad drinking an Expresso at a hotel lobby and finding out 150,000 allied troops landed at Normandy that morning. I think 1% of the Veterans of the landing are still alive today . I have a picture of my father at St Peters with about 100 soldiers all together in the basicali . It's all the AMG soldiers that finally reached Rome from North Africa,Sicily and Southern Italy. John Hersey who wrote a Pulitzer prize book " A bell for adano " shadowed an AMG officer and made it romantic My father said the book and movie was good. But the lead actor wasn't Italian-American actor it was John Hodiack .
Anyway My father stayed in Rome after the war and was involved in the investigation of the Adrienne Cave massacres where Hitler had 300 Italians executed just outside of Rome. He was in charge of what Italians helped the Germans . Just outside of Rome there is a Memorial of the caves today where the Germans shot and killed 300 You can YouTube more info .
So after I think 6 months after the war was over he stayed in Italy and finally came home to the US He got his teaching job back but something called the United Nations had moved to NYC from San Fran. He then worked for the United Nations for the next 35 years . In 1957 he was assigned to UNEF in PIsa Italy and spent time in Gaza and the Congo. We lived in Italy and was a laison officer with the UN Emergency forces . He was in Gaza and the Congo in 1965. We lived in Camp Darby in Livorno and he hired almost 50 Italians to work for the UN creating a UNEF base, He hired everyone. we were stationed in Italy for 10 years and then he came back to the UN in NYC. He applied to Albany and received his NY state certification to teach Italian and Spanish He bought a house in New Jersey and worked as a permanent sub at Riverdale HS for 7 years. He was in his 80's still teaching when on Friday after school told my mother he wasn't feeling good and had a stroke He died a week later. The video that my nephews taped is unreal In the middle of the taping my mother has to go into the kitchen because the spaghetti in over boiling . The camera follows my dad into the kitchen . He takes a wooden spoon and dips it in to my mothers sauce and looks at the camera and smiles. I saw that my entire life. So powerful So today or tomorrow we celebrate June 6th D-day. And I think of Joe D my dad.
 

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Simply, amazingly, AWESOME! My favorite Uncle Fred also was on the shores of Normandy but never wanted to discuss it and Aunt Lena would always change the subject. So thank you.
 

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The survivors are all 100+ now. That in itself is tremendous. When you think about how many 18/19 year old kids were used as sacrificial lambs storming Omaha/Utah beach(s), it's tremendously sad.

Amazing people.
 

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My fathers favorite story that my 2 nephews filmed and taped I watched again tonight, I remember almost the entire story but watching it made me realized its a " living history " that I have and showed some of it to my own kids and grandkids.
It is June 5th and my father is in General Clarks 5th Army and they just captured Rome , My father is a lieutenant assigned with {AMG)allied Military Government. He was in charge of 15-20 US Soldiers and as the Germans retreated southern Italian cities they had captured and held they were retreating town by town. My father would enter Italian villages and small cities and establish a government under Allied forces. From Naples on the Germans were retreating . My father who born in Italy but came over to the US when he was 5. He graduated Manhattan College in 1936 and his degree was Italian and Spanish . He was teaching Italian and Spanish at Teddy Roosevelt HS in the Bronx when the war broke out. He enlisted and went to officers training school and became a AMG officer. He married my mother in 1941 and 3 days later was on a ship to North Africa. He was in the 5th Army and became part of a group of Americans assigned to AMG. He spoke Fluent Italian and had no dialect.Anyway Its in June 5th the day before D-day. He after being in Sicily and Naples with AMG General Clark disobeyed Eisenhower's orders and captured Rome The Germans retreated and left Rome with a battle . Clark was ordered to skip Rome and go after and trap the German Army. By disobeying those orders the entire German Army escaped being surrounded and retreated North.
Clark and his 5th Army marches into Rome and captures the city . He is like the 1st conquering Army to capture Rome since Attila the Hun . My father says they enter the city and 1,000 of Italians are welcoming the allied forces. My father says at the Nord Roma Hotel a 1st class hotel near the train station. It is June 5th that day. My father gets up early that morning and goes down stairs to get a cappopuncinno coffee. He see's another officer at the hotel and is informed the allied forces have landed in Normandy . Its D-day. Everyone knew D-day was coming . It wasn't a surprise . Stalin had been asking for the US and England to open another front . Where they landed was the secret. So many think like my father that Clark wanted to capture Rome before the invasion . But the timing was off. The capture of Rome was big news but like Studs Turkel the great writer said about Clark.. " headlines for a day back pages for a life time " The Atlantic wall had been penetrated and the invasion in France made the capture of Rome seemed less insignificant . So many today are remembering D-Day and the Normandy beaches but the day before Rome was captured. My father never left Rome and was reassigned to investigate the the massacre of 300 Italians a few months before the US captured Rome and than later on an Investigation on Pius X11 and what role he played with the Germans when they occupied Rome. When the war was over he stayed in Rome for 6 months continuing his investigating . Will continue later on about my dad. Sorry this is kinda boring but watching the TV and seeing some of the news high lites of Normandy today had me thinking back ..
Thanks Box I certainly enjoyed first hand info.
Can't imagine mindset of those storming the beach knowing they had 75% chance to survive... that along with those in Korean War where elements "freezing" took as many lives as ordinance.

I am at awe of the sacrifices these men made.!
 

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great video If my father graduated Manhattan College in 1936 then he was probably about 21-22 when he graduated . So in 1944 he was older around 28-29..Amazing .. not sure of his age but imagine having an Expresso in Rome that morning.
Also the day before when the 5th US Army entered Rome My father was in a jeep in the parade. Clark was in the lead jeep or 2nd jeep and Clark had an Italian general who wasn't from Rome The entire parade went the wrong way as the mayor of Rome and others waited for the official ceremony at the Victor Emmanuel Monument. Someone signaled Clark that they made a wrong turn in the Rome streets and weren't going to the Victor Em ceremony. Now behind Clark were tanks, troop carriers ,buses ,jeeps etc. AT some point they stopped and asked some Italians " which way to the Victor Em plaza. An Italian cheering the parade said follow me. On his bike he corrected Gen Clark and the entire 5th Army and said " follow me" and took the lead and finally delivered Clark and his entire Army for the ceremony. The Italian general sitting with Clark wasn't from Rome and had no idea of the streets . In Rick Atkinsons book written years later he tells that story of Clark getting lost in Rome.
 
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