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and innocent till proven guilty is great and American, agreed.

But its NOT innocent till proven guilty and until then lets ridicule the victim and assume the girl is a ho and after Kobes money. Of course shes lying. An incredible American like Kobe(or maybe just an athletic brother ) couldnt do something like that. :nono:
 

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i just heard that those pictures are not of the accuser, it is somebody else with the same first name.this other girl & her family are very upset about this mix up, for the obvious reasons & also that she is receiving death threats.
i think it very irresponsible of the person (not talking about the posters on this site who posted the pictures) who first posted these photos on the net.
 

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My point exactly. Wrong girl, wrong pics, its all speculation and irresponsable...

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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) -- The 19-year-old woman who accused Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant of rape was named Tuesday by a nationally syndicated talk-show host and on the Internet, pushing her into the spotlight despite pleas for privacy from her family.

Rape counselors and mental health experts were outraged by the exposure of the young Colorado woman, saying that a victim of sexual assault would be further traumatized by public scrutiny.

"That's like being raped again," if her accusations against Bryant are true, said Dr. Patricia Saunders, director of Graham Windham Manhattan Medical Center in New York City. "It's an intrusion. It's an utter violation of her right to privacy. It's a sadistic thing to do."

News organizations, which typically have policies against naming sexual assault victims, have not identified the woman. But her name, address, telephone number and possibly her picture have surfaced on the Internet.

Meanwhile Tom Leykis, host of a radio talk-show based in Los Angeles and aimed mostly at young men, began using her name on the air and told Reuters that he has no plans to stop.

"We're told that rape is violence, not sex, and if that's true there's no reason she should feel shame or embarrassment," Leykis said, adding that he felt it unfair to name Bryant but not his accuser.

The talk-show host, who is heard on 60 stations across the country, also said he did not believe the woman's claims. He said he believes the woman was seeking attention and money and that Bryant could be the "real victim" in the case.

Saunders said Leykis' reasoning about rape and disclosure was a "distortion" because rape victims were often stigmatized by society. "Rape is a person using domination in sex to express aggression, if not outright sadism," she said. "Rape uses sex to debase a woman and to assert male dominance. (Leykis) has no right to take it upon himself to make that kind of decision. This guy violated what I think is an ethical law."

Few details have been made public about the woman's accusations against Bryant, who is charged with class 3 sexual assault, the equivalent of rape under Colorado law.

The 24-year-old superstar has denied attacking the woman, a concierge at the four-star Colorado resort where authorities say the attack took place. Eagle County authorities have refused to discuss evidence in the case and convinced a judge to seal the court file, which details the woman's allegations and the version of events that Bryant gave to police.

A spokeswoman and victim's advocate for the Eagle County District Attorney's Office said victims of sexual attacks are told the road ahead of them will be difficult and are offered counseling.

"But you don't know until you go through it," Krista Flannigan said.

Bryant's lawyers could not be reached for comment.

Meanwhile, the Denver Post, citing interviews with a friend of the woman, said she had suffered physical injuries that were still visible three weeks later.

"She's been hurt, there's no question about that," Luke Bray told the Post. The paper said he would not describe the injuries.

The Post also said that the woman's mother had asked her friends to stop talking with the news media.

Bryant is scheduled to appear in court on Aug. 6 to hear the charges against him. The state's crime lab still processing evidence, according to Pete Mang, deputy director of the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
 

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thanks no all...i guess under state law it is rape...

the more i learn about this case and the more info im hearing..im finding it more difficult to believe that she was raped...we certanly dont have much info/evidence etc..but the "leaks" are starting to make me skeptical here..which i guess they are suppose to do...but the latest info regarding this women going to a party and bragging about her encounter with Kobe ...including a description of his genitals is making me think more and more that the situation was exactly as the defense will say it was...a mistake on the part of KOBE for committing adultery ...and nothing more...i dont want to prejudge this case on media leaks...but if you think about the allegation with a common sense approach...i just dont get it

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The correct spelling is irresponsible !! :nono:


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ACCUSER ?BRAGGED? ABOUT INCIDENT
The 19-year-old woman attended a party just days before charges were filed against Bryant and appeared to be in a good mood and ?bragging? about the incident, several teen-agers at the party told NBC News on Tuesday. Another friend told the Associated Press that the woman had ?visible evidence? of the alleged attack a week later.
The alleged victim was at a party three days before the charges were filed and appeared to be in a good mood, NBC News reported, citing five party attendees.
?She was bragging about it,? party host Steve Evancho told NBC News. ;)
The victim described Bryant?s anatomy when asked about it at the party, the host said.

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Another friend gave a different impression of the victim, saying she was still ?shaken up? by what happened.
Luke Bray declined to be more specific out of respect for his friend and her family.
?There is visible evidence of what happened,? he said.
Eagle County sheriff?s spokeswoman Kim Andree declined comment on NBC?s report and Bray?s statement. Neither prosecutor Mark Hurlbert nor Bryant?s attorneys returned telephone messages seeking comment.
Meanwhile, a friend of the alleged victim told the Rocky Mountain News that the woman has had second thoughts about filing charges against Bryant.
?She just didn?t think that it was going to get this big,? said Brigitte Lowry, who told the Rocky Mountain News that was a best friend of the accuser.
Lowry also told the newspaper that the woman has received some death threats over her accusations.
 

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Picture in question was shown on MSNBC

Kobe Bryant
(Jul. 17, 2003) *Ad Age magazine is reporting that Nike, McDonald's and other companies that have a commercial relationship with Kobe Bryant, are keeping a low profile in the wake of his sexual assault charges for the time being
Bryant was arrested July 1 in Eagle, Colorado and was accused of sexually assaulting a 19-year-old woman, reportedly named Kate Farber, at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera, a resort in Vail Valley. At EUR press time prosecutors still had not decided whether to press charges, although a decision was expected this week.

Bryant has endorsement deals with Nike, McDonald's, Sprite, Spalding and Upper Deck trading cards that net him an estimated $20 to $22 million a year, according to Ad Age.

Apparently none of the companies were willing to say if any campaigns involving Bryant would be pulled, but some sports marketing experts, such as Brandon Steiner, of New Rochelle, N.Y.-based Steiner Sports Marketing, suspect that will be the case.

"No question," said Steiner,"They'll do it subtly, but they'll do it. It will be just like the Magic Johnson ads that suddenly disappeared when he announced he was HIV positive [in 1991]. Marketers don't want to be put in that spotlight."

David Carter, president of The Sports Business Group in Los Angeles, believes Bryant's good guy reputation will give him given more leniency in the court of public opinion.

"But," Mr. Carter cautioned, "that's the risk marketers take with celebrity endorsers."

Obviously Bryant's situation puts the marketers in an awkard situation. They can't walk away from him, but they can't embrace him either. For instance, a Coca-Cola Co. spokesman would only say that the company is aware of the circumstances and is "monitoring the situation."

If I wanted to be extremely stupid, IRRESPONSIBLE and not showed an ounce of class......
I would have posted her home address, phone number & email address :rolleyes:
 
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no all said:
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) --
Rape counselors and mental health experts were outraged by the exposure of the young Colorado woman, saying that a victim of sexual assault would be further traumatized by public scrutiny.

Meanwhile Tom Leykis, host of a radio talk-show based in Los Angeles and aimed mostly at young men, began using her name on the air and told Reuters that he has no plans to stop.

"We're told that rape is violence, not sex, and if that's true there's no reason she should feel shame or embarrassment," Leykis said, adding that he felt it unfair to name Bryant but not his accuser.
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I just cannot believe that this guy Leykis would say such a thing as this. This man has no respect for woman.

He says rape is violence not sex and there is no reason to feel ashamed. OK then lets take this guy Tommy to a nearby prison and throw him in the showers for a few hours during general call.

When he comes out of that experience we put Tommy on TV and say you were a victim of violence not sex......

How did it feel Tommy, the violence part I mean?.

Can you explain what happened in detail Tommy boy !
No need for any embarressment about it, and I promise you Tommy we will not be picturing what happened to you in our minds.


What a idiot.


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Frog says:

"If I wanted to be extremely stupid, IRRESPONSIBLE and not showed an ounce of class......
I would have posted her home address, phone number & email address"
but posting the wrong name and pic is ok??



Allright Frog,
So lets post your REAL name and REAL picture all over the internet and tell how you were gang raped in prison by 4 angry men.....And when we look at youre real name and pic we'll talk about how youre full of shit and only in it for the cash...and we'll try and forget that 4 dudes took to your ass....cause you made it up of course....
 

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i think

i think

we`re all smart enough to figure out that a good lawyer(and that`s what kobe has) is going to leak all kinds of crap to the media to besmirch the rep of that girl....that`s what lawyers do....

and that talk show host should be shot...i find it amazing that anybody can make a judgement about a case in which nobody knows the particulars or all of the evidence...that just shows what a total moron and a buffoon tom leykis is.....

it`s a sad statement that people are making judgements and decisions already before the trial even starts.....

that`s why i have previously railed on our criminal justice system in threads past...not a shot at lawyers.....but the average citizen in this country seems to have totally lost their ability to be objective about anything.....

everybody carries so much bias and preconceived opinion on most issues that it`s almost impossible to get an objective determination......


seems like they should call the judicial decision making process "jury selection" instead of "trial".....

more and more that seems to be the determining factor....especially in high profile cases involving celebrity....


how sad....
 
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Can you explain what happened in detail Tommy boy !
No need for any embarressment about it, and I promise you Tommy we will not be picturing what happened to you in our minds.
What a idiot.

KOD,
When using the English article "a" prior to a word that starts with a vowel the proper atricle to use would be "an", i.e. what "an" idiot.

p.s. I try never to picture a man being gang raped by other men, but hey it's your drum, you march to it.
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Its not a drum that I march to or ever have. Sounds like you need a woman in your life. Hope that happens for you someday again.

Obviously you are too stupid to get what I meant , so I won't waste my time trying to explain it further.

:thefinger

hope that helps


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You're right Ding of Kogs I need a ...oh excuse me..."AN" woman, what bowling alley do you do your trolling at? Can you recommend a ....oops...... AN hot spot? So you are telling me that your little sarcastic epithet about not picturing this guy getting gang raped was meant in .........AN......whole other way?
I concur....don't waste your time trying to explain it further as I would have to wait for someone to explain it to you.

I must be stupid, because none of my threads reek of genius like your past posts.
 

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this will be interesting.....women's causes vs. black demographics

will we see the same dynamics as in the Clarence Thomas spectacle??? i doubt it....real issue there was like usual a masked attack on conservatism

personally i think it was probaby consensual but Kobe has only himself to blame for putting himself in this situation and this should stem as a wakeup call to ALL men.....we should be more careful to be faithful to our wives not only because of the positives things that will happen such as a better marriage and a happier, more fulfilling life but also because of the many negative consequences that can happen...as ANY woman is capable of bringing a man down with a cry of rape, harassment, etc. etc. not to mention STD's and all the anxiety and guilt that come along with cheating on one's spouse

Kobe was flat out stupid for this whole thing and showed a complete breakdown in character...

that being said, i think the girl may have felt guilty about going up there and having sex however rough it may have been and then cried rape as a defense mechanism for her actions....a very common reaction i might add....and it fits the profile with the issues it appears she has been dealing with
 

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maximus9 said:
Frog says:

"but posting the wrong name and pic is ok??


Shame on CNN, MSNBC and I. We all deserve a whoop'in <img src="http://www.websmileys.de/wut121.gif">





Allright Frog,
So lets post your REAL name and REAL picture all over the internet and tell how you were gang raped in prison by 4 angry men

Dude, you need some serious help. <img src="http://www.websmileys.de/augen23.gif"
 

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Kobe was flat out stupid for this whole thing and showed a complete breakdown in character...


I'd just like to know WHY with THIS girl.....?
Him being Kobe...he could have had ANY woman on the planet.....and easily gotten away with it....
Why this one????


and should we assume he's done something like this before...?
:shrug: :confused: :nono:
 

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So lets post your REAL name and REAL picture all over the internet and tell how you were gang raped in prison by 4 angry men.....And when we look at youre real name and pic we'll talk about how youre full of shit and only in it for the cash...and we'll try and forget that 4 dudes took to your ass....cause you made it up of course....


Maximus your analogy is, at best, laughable. :lol:

1. There weren't "4 angry men". There was only one, and he was in need of surgery.
2. The victim wasn't another man. It was a woman. (Consensual sex happens from time to time)
3. The accused "raper" is a very rich celeb. I'm thinking the "4 angry men" aren't.
 
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