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[socrstud]

1)Navy love navy ML
2) tiny lean to BC
3) lean to GT ML like it 4.5 za's out of 5
4) UCLA to crush Northwestern...hope these guys don't come out thinking they are great
5) WVU to cover possible shocker win
6) South Carolina ML little play they shoulda beat clemson
7) NC state small lean...its in Charlotte
8) LOVE BAMA +3
9) Love Notre Dame with the points and like them for th ML
10) PSU ML TO THE BANK
11) Texas +7.5 small lean

GL guys....As to date my big plays are Navy and I will keep saying Navy....I acknowledge the fact they have played no one but do manage to run the ball for over 300 freaking yards...

2)UCLA but I'm growin wary, I don't like the west coast style football execpt I can't help but love Reggie Bush.

3) Bama, I'm playing the ML that bama definately wins

4) Notre Dame will bottle up Pittman and they're run deffense will be exploited by Dames good RB

5)GT will not lose big play on the ML

5)PSU ML there is no WAY THEY LOSE THIS GAME ITS A FREAKING GIMME

and that's all....Happy Holidays and best of luck with all plays.... :clap:

 

[AR182]

i haven't finished analyzing who i'm taking yet...

but will tell you who i'm not taking & that's ucla...

i will not lay points with a team as soft as the bruins.....i'll either take nw or lay off that game...

i haven't finished looking at the osu/nd game yet but my initial thoughts are that ohio state wins this game pretty comfortably....

good luck with your plays & thanks for sharing your thoughts....

 

[gman2]

notre dame is a good team.
and they may win.
but they're not "exploiting" ohio state's run defense.
i really enjoy going back and forth with you on games.
but c'mon man. they're the #1 rushing defense in the country for a reason. and they've been one of the nation's best in that department for, oh...about three years now.
this could be one of the most ridiculous things you've ever said.
everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that's like saying usc's offense is overrated.
the way to beat ohio state is through the air because ashton youboty fu.cking sucks. and there's no doubt notre dame is capable of hitting some big plays down the field on osu's corners if the bucks aren't careful. but you can pretty much count on notre dame's rushing game to be a relative non-factor.

 

[Dice34]

1)Navy love navy ML
2) tiny lean to BC
3) lean to GT ML like it 4.5 za's out of 5
4) UCLA to crush Northwestern...hope these guys don't come out thinking they are great
5) WVU to cover possible shocker win
6) South Carolina ML little play they should beat clemson
7) NC state small lean...its in Charlotte
8) LOVE BAMA +3
9) Love Notre Dame with the points and like them for th ML
10) PSU ML TO THE BANK
11) Texas +7.5 small lean

GL guys....As to date my big plays are Navy and I will keep saying Navy....I acknowledge the fact they have played no one but do manage to run the ball for over 300 freaking yards...

2)UCLA but I'm growin wary, I don't like the west coast style football execpt I can't help but love Reggie Bush.

3) Bama, I'm playing the ML that bama definately wins

4) Notre Dame will bottle up Pittman and they're run deffense will be exploited by Dames good RB

5)GT will not lose big play on the ML

5)PSU ML there is no WAY THEY LOSE THIS GAME ITS A FREAKING GIMME

and that's all....Happy Holidays and best of luck with all plays.... :clap:

Do you hear that? Is it me or does anybody else hear the sound of nails against a chalkboard?

Maybe I'm the crazy one.....

 

[DerekNJND]

notre dame is a good team.
and they may win.
but they're not "exploiting" ohio state's run defense.

Couldnt agree more. ND has made a name for themselves as the 4th best passing offense in college football this year. OSU has a great defense, I doubt ND's offense "exploits" any facet of OSU's defense, even if they win SU. The key to the game is ND matching up defensively with OSU's offense. If they can make plays and cause turnovers like they did against USC and Michigan it will be a good game. If not, who knows. ND wont win this game w/o either a defensive TD, special teams TD, or at least ONE red zone turnover caused. An offensive juggernaut like Charlie Weis is not going to run the ball 25-30 times against a team like OSU after watching tape. Simply too good up front and at LB. The only running ND will do will be to keep OSU honest OR if they are in the lead.

 

[thom24ad]

because ashton youboty fu.cking sucks.

I totally agree he made one big play against Mich last year and was assumed he would be an All American. We all know thats far from the truth.

 

[socrstud]

I love how people think that OSU is some AMAZING deffense unit...yes they are good and I recognize that however, the only team that has exploited this POWER HOUSE team was PSU...and guess what guys it wasn't through the air....That's right, in order to beat this OSU team you gotta beat them on the run....Hey its my opinion take it or leave it, but I've been watching OSU play against teams that cannot run the ball very well, and it seems that when a team does run it well they end up losing....I'll promise you one thing, expect to see a balanced attack from NDU and if we don't see one from Weis OSU wins convingly.....GL Guys

Gman i dunno if you watched the PSU game but maybe you should take a look at the running stats....They may get beat through the air a couple times and NDU has the weaker of the D's, and I think that its a little overzelous to say that "everyone" knows the way to beat OSU is through the air.....just another stupid comment though from the socrstud

 

[socrstud]

Do you hear that? Is it me or does anybody else hear the sound of nails against a chalkboard?

Maybe I'm the crazy one.....

Dice, really don't know what you mean by nails against the chalk board but I'm guessing that its some lame insult.....maybe you could post your plays once in a while....your objective and that's fine....But lets not forget when you said "i'm not so sure WVU beats SFlorida," and when you liked army but I told everyone Navy would win....Yeah I may be wrong with some of my pix but they are what they are.....Still doesn't get away from the fact that the only times that you've responded to my threads I've been right and you've been wrong....as you've said maybe you are the crazy one....

 

[gman2]

the only team that has exploited this POWER HOUSE team was PSU...and guess what guys it wasn't through the air....

uh, you mean the penn state team that scored 17 points, 7 of which were gift-wrapped by a troy smith interception that was nearly returned for a touchdown.

penn state had a whopping 11 first downs and 195 TOTAL yards against ohio state. and penn state exploited ohio state's rushing defense to the tune of 117 yards on 37 carries -- a whopping 3.2 yards per rush.

the texas longhorns -- you know, that crappy team thats playing for the national title and is #3 in the nation in rushing offense -- didnt even rush for 3.0 yards a carry against ohio state.

michigan with mike hart and kevin grady?
they exploited osu's rushing defense for 1.3 yards per carry.

michigan state with their trio of backs?
2.3 yards on 51 carries.

the only team to have ANY success rushing the ball against ohio state is minnesota, and that was in the 1st half before osu shut that down in the 2nd half.

where the heck do you go to school? you're saying you watch a lot of ohio state games, yet you seem to be missing the fact that teams are averaging 2.4 yards per carry against them this year -- do you know how low that is?

like i said, ohio state's defense is not invincible. yobouty sucks in the secondary and teams can pass against them. but running the ball against them is pointless. way too much speed, and theyre an excellent tackling team so you rarely get to the past the second level at most rushing the ball.

 

[redsfann]

i'm feeling good knowing i'm on the exact opposite of this card...other than texas that is...
just a suggestion...take Northwestern..they will roll that soft bunch of puzzies from the Pac-10 called the bruins....:mj07:

 

[socrstud]

i'm feeling good knowing i'm on the exact opposite of this card...other than texas that is...
just a suggestion...take Northwestern..they will roll that soft bunch of puzzies from the Pac-10 called the bruins....:mj07:

They may roll but lets face it, the only thing soft that comes to mind is the NW rush deffense...GL with your card...

By the way Reds fan hope you don't take the FSU ML....you'll be flushing watever money you have down the comode compadre....

My record since I've started posting College football is something like 13-1 or 12-2 hope that makes you feel better

 

[socrstud]

Gman...here are the stats unbiasedly presented...
Penn State managed 195 overall yards; Robinson passed for 78 and ran for 52.

It's clear that this was a balanced attack in which PSU ran for more yards than they passed for....195-78=117 rush yards....."but we all know that the way you beat OSU is through the air right"

Gman you can't fight against numbers:
117 rush yards
78 pass yards

If NDU runs well they win if they don't they lose simply stated

 

[socrstud]

Couldnt agree more. ND has made a name for themselves as the 4th best passing offense in college football this year. OSU has a great defense, I doubt ND's offense "exploits" any facet of OSU's defense, even if they win SU. The key to the game is ND matching up defensively with OSU's offense. If they can make plays and cause turnovers like they did against USC and Michigan it will be a good game. If not, who knows. ND wont win this game w/o either a defensive TD, special teams TD, or at least ONE red zone turnover caused. An offensive juggernaut like Charlie Weis is not going to run the ball 25-30 times against a team like OSU after watching tape. Simply too good up front and at LB. The only running ND will do will be to keep OSU honest OR if they are in the lead.

Do not agree, Notre Dame is a good passing offense but they will need to run the ball in this one if they want the W, I think they can threaten OSU with the pass and exploit the run because they are so deadly with the pass...If they do not run a balanced attack with the run I feel strongly NDU will lose....Quinn will get pummled and lose confidence

 

[gman2]

socrstud:

penn state had 195 yards of offense against ohio state. thats not rushing offense. nor is that passing offense. thats TOTAL offense.

117 team rushing yards
and
78 team passing yards

thats not a "balanced attack".
thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

generating 195 yards means they couldnt do a damn thing on the ground... and they couldnt do a damn thing through the air.

penn state averages 219 yards on the ground per game this year.
ohio state held them to basically half that.

wtf are you talking about "balanced attack"?

 

[socrstud]

socrstud:

penn state had 195 yards of offense against ohio state. thats not rushing offense. nor is that passing offense. thats TOTAL offense.

117 team rushing yards
and
78 team passing yards

thats not a "balanced attack".
thats the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard.

generating 195 yards means they couldnt do a damn thing on the ground... and they couldnt do a damn thing through the air.

penn state averages 219 yards on the ground per game this year.
ohio state held them to basically half that.

wtf are you talking about "balanced attack"?

Question for you Gman....Did they generate more passing yards in that game or more rushing yards in that game....because we all know that passing is the way to beat this team.....The fact is that they won the game by gaining more rushing yards than passing yards.....How can you argue that?

And by balanced I mean the passing to rushing yards in this game for PSU were not lopsided....you didn't see a big diffence on either end but something tells me you knew that, and you just don't have a very good argument for this one Gman

And as a note for my education....maybe you should take a class on un biasedly presenting figures when arguing, it makes your arguement stronger....

 

[gman2]

Question for you Gman....Did they generate more passing yards in that game or more rushing yards in that game

please tell me you are not serious.
they gained 195 yards T-O-T-A-L
they couldn't do much of ANYTHING that game.
their passing game was a non-factor.
and their rushing game was held to more than 100 yards LESS than what they averaged on the season.

this is seriously the most ridiculous argument that ive ever heard.

ive seen you post before and you are far brighten than you are showing right now.

youre sitting here trying to argue that a team who gained 195 yards of total offense in a 60:00 football game "exploited" another team. do you know how bad 195 yards of total offense is?

lets end this right here:

if penn state averaged 195 yards of total offense over the course of the season, they would have the worst offense (#117 out of 117) in the country by more than 50 yards.

the worst offense in the country was temple, and they averaged 247 in total offense this year.

penn state had 195 against ohio state.

suffice to say, both defenses dominated that game. penn state's was equally as good that night.

 

[socrstud]

PSU WON THE GAME STOP BEING RETARDED!!! THEY RAN FOR MORE THAN THEY PASSED GIVE IT UP....and to quote you, "we all know the way the way that you beat OSU is through the air"

You're the one being REDICULOUS

What I'm trying to point out is that if NDU can run the ball well they will be in this game 4 sure....and I won't be surprised if they run more often than they have in the past....

 

[Scott4USC]

I think ND will have success running the ball on OSU, ONLY if they have success passing the ball. I think ND will have succes passing on OSU. ND will use the pass to set up the run. OSU D is not a shut down D like everyone makes them out to be. You can score pts on OSU. ND won't be able to just line up and run on OSU. They will rely on the pass to open up the running game. Should be a fun game to watch. I am excited!

 

[socrstud]

I think ND will have success running the ball on OSU, ONLY if they have success passing the ball. I think ND will have succes passing on OSU. ND will use the pass to set up the run. OSU D is not a shut down D like everyone makes them out to be. You can score pts on OSU. ND won't be able to just line up and run on OSU. They will rely on the pass to open up the running game.

Exactly what I'm trying to say....great post Scott! This is what I feel that NDU will try to do...

 

[gman2]

socrstud:

i would be ridiculous, not rediculous.
and i would be presenting an argument, not an arguement.
but i digress.

you're absolutely correct -- the way to beat ohio state is to score 17 points and generate 195 yards of offense,

you're right, penn state laid the blueprint. all you have to do is hold yourself to half of what you normally gain on the season, the way penn state did. that's the best way to beat ohio state.

you think joe pa gave the game ball to his offense at the end of that game? the psu defense dominated osu just as much, and thats why they won. neither offense did a fu.cking thing that game.

do you think charlie weis is looking at the film saying "wow, penn state sure had success against ohio state running the ball".

what part of 74.5 yards per game and 2.36 yards per rush isnt making sense to you?