Leftist media at it again!!!

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Yeah, I'm sure you would've been all over this from the start if you were the editor.
 

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Sounds more like righty buffoon media assessment to me. An editor looks at hundreds of photos a week, picks out ones that looks good that tell a story. They find out the photographer doctored a couple images (for what could be many reasons, not story embellishment, of course) and they pull all the photos from him. Sounds like stand up journalism with integrity to me.

Easier to brand them and trash them because you think they are against you, though. Very Bush-like of you.
 

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Reuters is obviously slanted--but can forgive them for photo mess which was not too big a deal--but purposely misleading people (just one example below) to fit there agenda rates them a rag publication in my book.

Reuters Changes Reporter?s Story to Match
Liberal Spin

Reuters apparently decided a contributor?s story wasn?t hostile enough to the U.S. military and condemnatory of how the Jessica Lynch rescue was turned into a Pentagon ?propaganda? offensive, so someone at Reuters just added the opinionated language -- all to the consternation of the reporter who got blamed for it because her byline was on the story.

A July 22 Reuters story, datelined Palestine, West Virginia, and which carried the byline of Deanna Wrenn, began: "Jessica Lynch, the wounded Army private whose ordeal in Iraq was hyped into a media fiction of U.S. heroism, was set for an emotional homecoming on Tuesday....Media critics say the TV cameras will not show the return of an injured soldier so much as a reality-TV drama co-produced by U.S. government propaganda and credulous reporters."

The first half of that is opinionated and doesn?t belong as the lead to a news story, but is basically accurate, though ABC News provided a possible explanation for the Pentagon?s false reports about Lynch firing back (see more later in this item). The second claim, however, about the rescue being a faked action reality series for film is right out of the anti-American play book of the BBC and has been discredited.

Thursday?s Charleston Daily Mail newspaper carried a piece by Wrenn, whose full time job is as a reporter for the newspaper, about how Reuters altered her original submission and then refused to remove her byline when she requested that be done. (Thursday?s Romenesko, OpinionJournal.com?s ?Best of the Web? and FNC?s Brit Hume all picked up on Wrenn?s article distancing herself from Reuters.)

An excerpt from Deanna Wrenn?s July 24 opinion page piece, ?Dear Elizabeth: I didn't do it,? picking up after she recited the lead, quoted above, which Reuters inserted:

....Got problems with that?

I do, especially since I didn't write it.

Here's what I sent last week to Reuters, a British news agency that compiles news reports from all over the world:

"ELIZABETH -- In this small county seat with just 995 residents, the girl everyone calls Jessi is a true heroine -- even if reports vary about Pfc. Jessica Lynch and her ordeal in Iraq.

"'I think there's a lot of false information about her story,' said Amber Spencer, a clerk at the town's convenience store.

"Palestine resident J.T. O'Rock was hanging an American flag and yellow ribbon on his storefront in Elizabeth in preparation for Lynch's return.

"Like many residents here, he considers Lynch a heroine, even if newspaper and TV reports say her story wasn't the same one that originally attracted movie and book deals."

What I typed and filed for Reuters last week goes on in that vein. They asked me if they could use my byline, which I had typed at the beginning of the story I sent, and I said that would be no problem.

When I got to work Wednesday, e-mail messages were flooding my inbox calling me everything but Peter Arnett....

I hope the people of Wirt County have been too busy to notice the Reuters story, the beginning of which takes a tone I never would have used.

I'm not sure what reporter or editor actually wrote the story that has my byline attached....

I understand that news wire services often edit, add, remove or write new leads for stories. What amazed me was that a story could have my byline on it when I contributed only a few sentences at the end -- and in later versions I didn't contribute anything at all.

The stories contained apparently fresh material attributed to sources I did not interview.

Maybe that's the way that wire service works.

I would like to make it abundantly clear that somebody at Reuters wrote the story, not me.

I may not be a member of the world's largest multi-media news agency, but I learned at West Virginia University how to report fairly, which is what I thought I was doing for Reuters last week.

Apparently, when Reuters asked me last week if they could use my byline, they weren't talking about the story I wrote for them last week. They were talking about a story I never wrote.

That was the misunderstanding.

By the way, I asked Reuters to remove my byline. They didn't....

END of Excerpt

For Wrenn?s rendition in full: www.dailymail.com

The original Reuters story on July 22 included even more about the Pentagon?s false ?propaganda.? An excerpt from the 7:45am EDT story, as posted by Yahoo:

Jessica Lynch Due Home After Media Hype on Heroism
Tue Jul 22, 7:45 AM ET

By Deanna Wrenn

PALESTINE, W.Va. (Reuters) - Jessica Lynch, the wounded Army private whose ordeal in Iraq was hyped into a media fiction of U.S. heroism, was set for an emotional homecoming on Tuesday in a rural West Virginia community bristling with flags, yellow ribbons and TV news trucks.

But when the 20-year-old supply clerk arrives by Blackhawk helicopter to the embrace of family and friends, media critics say the TV cameras will not show the return of an injured soldier so much as a reality-TV drama co-produced by U.S. government propaganda and credulous reporters.

"It no longer matters in America whether something is true or false. The population has been conditioned to accept anything: sentimental stories, lies, atomic bomb threats," said John MacArthur, the publisher of Harper's magazine....

Lynch became a national hero after media reports quoted unnamed U.S. officials as saying she fought fiercely before being captured, firing on Iraqi forces despite sustaining multiple gunshot and stab wounds.

In the end, Army investigators concluded that Lynch was injured when her Humvee crashed into another vehicle in the convoy after it was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade.

Far from a scene of battlefield heroism, the Army said the convoy blundered into the ambush after getting lost and many of the unit's weapons malfunctioned during the battle.

The U.S. military also released video taken during an apparently daring rescue by American special forces who raided the Iraqi hospital where she was being treated.

Iraqi doctors at the hospital said later the U.S. rescuers had faced no resistance and the operation had been over-dramatized....

SUSPEND Excerpt

This seems to be the only part actually written by Wrenn, the last three paragraphs of the story:

In Palestine, a rural neighborhood 225 miles west of Washington, residents were more concerned with protecting Lynch from the reporters who have flooded into the community for her homecoming.

"She's a hometown hero, no doubt about that," said shopkeeper J.T. O'Rock as he hung a flag and a yellow ribbon on his storefront.

"That poor little girl will have to hide just to get any peace and quiet," he added.

END of Excerpt

For the entire Reuters article: story.news.yahoo.com

In a story for Friday?s Washington Times, Robert Stacy McCain relayed Reuters? defense:

Reuters defended its coverage yesterday after Ms. Wrenn's account appeared on the Wall Street Journal's Opinion Journal Web site.

"We always reserve the right to temper a story with copy from both sides of an issue to better service our global readership," Reuters said. "The advance story focused on the media controversy that has ensued since the rescue first took place....We feel strongly that our coverage of Private Lynch's return presents both sides of the issue fairly."

Reuters also said that "the controversy surrounding Private Jessica Lynch's capture and rescue is a story of global importance."

"The overnight advance story we carried was based on copy sent to us by Ms. Wrenn, who was working as a free-lancer for us at the time, and was supplemented by additional copy and editing from others Reuters staffers."

END of Excerpt

The July 25 Washhington Times story on Reuters? byline misuse: www.washingtontimes.com

As for U.S. propaganda in the rescue of Lynch, see the June 3 CyberAlert: NBC News versus ABC News and the BBC. Back on May 7 ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings belittled the military effort to rescue POW Jessica Lynch, focusing on how the U.S. forces knew they would face no opposition, unnecessarily frightened the staff and caused a lot of damage, specifically by breaking door knobs. The BBC accused the U.S. forces of firing off blanks, a sure sign it was all staged for the cameras. But now, NBC's Jim Avila has determined that the truth lies closer to the story initially conveyed by the U.S. military. Avila reported that hospital staff ?say the so-called blanks were actually flash-bang grenades....And the Americans had every reason to expect trouble. Hospital workers confirm the Iraqi military used the basement as a headquarters.? For details: www.mediaresearch.org

And on the very night of the Reuters story, ABC advanced a potential reason for why initial Pentagon reports, picked up by the media, described Lynch as fighting back against Iraqis when she did not fight back and was injured from her truck crashing, not from being shot.

In a story tracked down by the MRC?s Brad Wilmouth, on Tuesday?s World News Tonight ABC reporter Jim Wooten highlighted the overlooked Sergeant Donald Walters, the man in Lynch?s group of trucks who really fought back and was killed in the process. Wooten explained that the Pentagon got its information about the capture from intercepted phone calls:
?Now an official report suggests they accurately described a different soldier. No one here at Ft. Bliss is talking, but it's pretty clear this is what happened: American translators misunderstood two very similar Arabic pronouns, confusing 'he' with 'she.' And the 'he,' as it turns out, was this man. Donald Walters, a 33 year-old sergeant and cook from Salem, Oregon, who was part of a supply convoy that drove by mistake into an enemy stronghold. Here, on the north side of An-Nasiriyah, his truck was disabled by heavy fire. The driver, a private, jumped into the next vehicle, but the Pentagon says Walters, all alone, killed several Iraqis before he was shot and stabbed to death. He was posthumously awarded the Bronze Star.?

Wooten added that a Fort Bliss General told Walters? mother that ?the phone intercepts and interviews with Iraqi prisoners convinced him that Sergeant Walters, her only son, was the soldier first thought to be Private Lynch. Autopsies of those killed show he was the only one who was stabbed. Still, the Army has said nothing publicly.?
 

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Yeah, I'm sure you would've been all over this from the start if you were the editor.

i probably woudl have moved these "photos" right into the cartoon section where they obviously seem to belong

good grief, grandma in her wheelchair could have seen this photoshopping and she's nearly blind!
 

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Of course the high and mighty doctor probably has never overlooked something in his day. These editors probably look at a hundred photos a day, many very similar in appearance. Editors from all media, print and web, conservative, liberal, down the middle. Why does there always have to be a claim of politics every time something can be spun? You guys are pretty quick to make claims about someone else's situation when you really don't know what the process was in the selection of a couple of photos. And they pulled ALL the photos of the photographer to boot, in a measure of integrity. But don't give them any credit, when you can rip them - from a position of ignorance of the exact situation.

Weak.

And of course, the political cartoon portrays the photographer as working for Reuters, when that wasn't the case here. I see the humor, but this is part of the blurring of truth and a hope by some that this is considered the truth if it's said enough.
 

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what wasn`t reuters?...what are you referring to?...the photoshopped pics were done by a now fired "fauxtographer" working for reuters.....

another media lie....so many they`re hard to keep track of....

"" HOWARD KURTZ: Tom Ricks, you've covered a number of military conflicts, including Iraq, as I just mentioned. Is civilian casualties increasingly going to be a major media issue? In conflicts where you don't have two standing armies shooting at each other?

THOMAS RICKS: I think it will be. But I think civilian casualties are also part of the battlefield play for both sides here. """""""One of the things that is going on, according to some U.S. military analysts, is that Israel purposely has left pockets of Hezbollah rockets in Lebanon, because as long as they're being rocketed, they can continue to have a sort of moral equivalency in their operations in Lebanon.""""""

KURTZ: Hold on, you're suggesting that Israel has deliberately allowed Hezbollah to retain some of it's fire power, essentially for PR purposes, because having Israeli civilians killed helps them in the public relations war here?

RICKS: Yes, that's what military analysts have told me.

KURTZ: That's an extraordinary testament to the notion that having people on your own side killed actually works to your benefit in that nobody wants to see your own citizens killed but it works to your benefit in terms of the battle of perceptions here.

RICKS: Exactly. It helps you with the moral high ground problem, because you know your operations in Lebanon are going to be killing civilians as well""....

this was a total distortion...or an outright lie...depending on your own moral compass...

here`s the follow-up...someone called ricks on his kurtz interview...


HH(hugh hewitt): Great to have you here. I want to spend the vast bulk of our time on Fiasco and Iraq, but first, yesterday, you were on with Howard Kurtz' Reliable Sources, CNN, and in response to a question, you said that some military analyst had told you that Israel had, "purposefully left pockets of Hezbollah rockets in Lebanon, because as long as they're being rocketed, they can continue to have a sort of moral equivalency in their operations in Lebanon." That was reported on Powerline, Rush Limbaugh read it on the air today, quite a controversy. Anything to add to it, Thomas Ricks?

TR- Yeah, I wish I'd kept my mouth shut. What I said was accurate, that in an off-the-record conversation with some military analysts, a couple had said to me that they """""thought""""" it was a smart strategy to leave some rocket pockets in place to help the Israelis shape public perceptions, and give their forces more freedom of maneuver in Lebanon. They weren't saying it was a bad strategy. They thought it was pretty intelligent, """""if it were the case""""". But I've since heard today from some very smart, well-informed people, that while such a strategy might be logical, and even morally defensible, that they thought the Israeli public just wouldn't stand for it, and they also expressed personal dismay to me that I had passed on the thought, which they thought was irresponsible.

HH: Do you want to name any of the analysts?

TR: No, it was an off-the-record conversation, and I want to honor that confidence.


"""

the media wouldn`t know the truth if it bit it on the ass....

a deliberate misrepresentation...shameful...
 
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I agree with Chadman....If anything it shows integrity to completely yank all the photos this person moved. This is done to anyone in the business that is caught manipulating or distorting the truth. Many times these papers will expose these guys right in their own papers. Usually, the guilty party is marked throughout the industry.There is zero tollerance for journalists who distort the truth. It's impossible to police everyone that is hired as a journalist.
 

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if it weren`t for alternative media,we`d get nothing but biased, left wing distortion.....

from dan rather.....to this crap....to slanting and editorial bias...like the guy that shot 5 women at a jewish center in seattle....

bi-polar?...maybe....he was smart enough to go out and buy 2 guns......then,ten days after buying them(waiting period)...wham....clearly he was with it enough for premedidtation...and with it enough to know that a jewish community center wasn`t guarded like a synagogue....

months of abu gharaib...literally hundreds of front page stories....

the murders of the women at the jewish center in seattle?....one story...page13 washington times....

one story...page 22...n.y. times...

the muslim guy that ran over students in north carolina...very little....the shootings at the el al airport counter?....very little....

and not just the media...the fbi,cia and the justice dept?.....silent....that skinny fossil chertoff is a waste...all hat and no cattle....


why isn`t the media looking into an expose at what`s going on at this guy`s father`s mosque?.....wouldn`t that make sense?...instead of sending muslims in burkhas to nascar races to show rednecks are racists?...............

nooo..that might actually save some lives.....
 
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Unfortunately people in this country want to be entertained and not informed. Why is it that the National Enquirer is so popular and makes so much money? People want that crap! Adults and youth want entertainment. Newspapers are in the business of making money. Period. By the way, most of all the major media outlets in this country are owned and operated by people of Jewish descent......
 

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Simple, and not requiring 200 individual sentences of explanation/analysis, my friend. The photographer was not an employee of Reuters, he was a freelance photographer, one of thousands that sell his wares to whomever will pay for them. How many other news organizations pulled all of his photos on file? I'll bet you dollars to turbans that his photos are on file on some conservative pubs, truth be told. Sounds like he was a pretty big time photographer from the sheer volume of his photos.

Not all that tough to separate the truth from the spin, if you care to. Big difference between a freelancer working for themselves and an employee working on the payroll for the news organization, of which they have many.
 

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And blaming newspapers for the actions of some of these idiots who fabricate the truth is ludicrous. It's like having 3000 employees with access to the cash register and wondering why there is money missing at the end of the day. Or why, with all the security checks the CIA has a person go through, that there are still guys who leak information to the Russians.....Too many people that cheat to catch them all!
 

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Here's a question. Who made the decision on what photo to use that day, for that release, and what were the other photos that were available at that time? What else was going on in that person's life, their workload, their decision-making process? What agenda did that person have, and why?

Unless you can answer some of these questions, let alone one, making BS claims like you guys are making is pretty sad. I don't suppose YOU guys have an agenda or anything.

:rolleyes:

Not only that, from Freeze's linked story it intimates that there might have been a lesser-level person making that decision that day, as stricter policies are now in place for more checks and balances as a matter of regular Reuters procedure considering the problem.

I honestly don't know if Reuters is considered to be leftist-leaning. There could be a basis in fact for that. I'll look into it, I don't know who/what owns that company, or anything about the people that run it. But their reaction to this is stand up, period.
 

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""Simple, and not requiring 200 individual sentences of explanation/analysis, my friend. The photographer was not an employee of Reuters""...

hmmmm?

""Reuters yesterday withdrew all "920 photographs" taken by one of "its" freelance photographers after acknowledging that he had doctored images of the war in Lebanon. On Sunday, Reuters said Adnan Hajj manipulated a photograph of damage to Beirut after an Israeli attack, but the agency discovered yesterday that Mr. Hajj also doctored a photograph of an Israeli F-16 fighter, prompting the removal of all 920 photos from the Reuters database.""

mighty white of the guy to provide 920 photos to reuters without renumeration......i know they couldn`t have paid him....that would have made him their employee....

from chad....""Here's a question. Who made the decision on what photo to use that day, for that release, and what were the other photos that were available at that time? What else was going on in that person's life, their workload, their decision-making process? What agenda did that person have, and why?""

answer...


""Reuters also has tightened its review process for photographs before they are published. While Mr. Hajj filed a number of images directly to the agency's Global Pictures Desk, where they were published ""without the oversight of a senior editor"", Reuters said that from now on senior staff will edit pictures from the Middle East...

pretty shoddy,i`d say....very unprofessional...next to no oversight....

now,they are finding pictures published by the n.y.t`s.....the opinion journal at wsj......all over....

it`sopen season on faux-tojournalists....

one picture supposedly showed a man that was supposedly dead for only a couple hours stiffened in the "watching-t.v.-on-the-couch" position.......from what i undertstand,it takes more than a few hours for rigor mortis to set in....


and i'd think it unlikely that out of group of bodies who were all supposedly killed simultaneously, ONE is showing full-blown rigor mortis, the rest none......

although,another possibility is that john edwards administered emergency embryonic stem cell treatment to that one guy, allowing him to come back to life........

lol

theres obviously a fine line between stupid and clever.......

the media has taken the most serious subject imaginable and turned it into a carnival of the absurd........little fact checking and verification.....

chad...my brotha....we`ll have to agree to disagree....it`s all good.... :mj06:
 

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Honestly Gweasel, you're rather clueless to a lot of what you're alluding to. You obviously don't understand the business.

First off....He more than likely manipulated one or two photos and Reuters pulled ALL 920 photos they had used of his. Do you not see that as a measure of integrity? There was no questions to be asked. They caught him once and yanked them all. Plain and simple. There was no trial or no appeals process. That's a stand up move. Because of this, and because of the ignorance to good journalism by mideast photographers, which more than likley are of middle east race, Reuters will have a senior editor to edit the photos out of that area. Middle east journalist are used to less than higher standards when performing their craft. In this country, journalists are taught differently.

Second....Yes, they paid him as a freelancer and yes it's absolutley possible that they ran all 920 of his photos without him being one of their employees. That's almost a certainty. Freelancers are paid by Reuters as contractors. They are hired per assignment. As a contractor, you shoot an assignment, submit the photos and once you're done, you are released as a contractor until the next assignment is done for the company. He could have been hired hundred's of times as a freelancer by Reuters.

Third....I don't know how you can tell rigor mortis has set in from a photo. And not to mention, the majority of newspapers in this country do not run photos of dead, bloody bodies. Unless it's an unusual circumstance.
 

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rigor mortis is a pretty fair assumption when the dead guy is in "sitting in a chair position".......except, there`s no chair...

as far as the media`s concerned...i find it it amazing....bordering on the absurd...that bloggers can find a bunch of photos that have been obviously photoshopped....skewed to advance a certain political viewpoint....while the editors,whose job it is to "edit" this stuff...to fact check....to verify......miss the deception time and again....and admittedly,in some instances,don`t even give the photos proper oversight...

we see this crap time and again...

call me a skeptic,but,i`m catching a whiff of ass(and,no,it ain`t my upper lip..lol)...
 

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i probably woudl have moved these "photos" right into the cartoon section where they obviously seem to belong

good grief, grandma in her wheelchair could have seen this photoshopping and she's nearly blind!

:142smilie
 

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Obviously you cannot alter photos and expect to be taken seriously, but has anybody seen the side by side comparison of the real photo and the altered photo that has caused all this? I saw them yesterday in the NY Post and I was pretty hard pressed to see any difference at all. The altered photo had slightly darker smoke, but that's about it. That guy sure didn't get much bang for his buck (career).
 
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