Life in prison for Moussaoui

[gardenweasel]

smurph,i could go on a much longer rant,but you liberals disgust me....and i`m getting pissed..

so i`ll keep it succinct..

i wonder what the troops in iraq and afghanistan think about this verdict?....

they are out there fighting the terrorists day in and day out.....killing them where possible and unfortunately taking casualties in the process....

now, a group of 12 americans had the chance to take care of a terrorists...one that had prior knowledge of 9/11.......and hid it.....one that was admittedly here to kill us.........

what do they do?...

9 of them deicde that this guy`s tough up bringing and nasty dad means that he shouldn't be put to death....

it strikes me that the troops in the field don't take that sort of thing into consideration...so, i`m not quite sure why americans at home should either.

i guess now it means, "you are either with us or against us, unless you had a mean daddy in which case if you're against us we understand why and won't be mean to you"......

not very inspiring or comforting.....certainly not tough...

that`s pussified in a nutshell...

those german saboteurs ....who were unable to utilize their plans...were executed..

and rightfully so..

i`m very nauseated by hosebags like o`reilly sitting behind his desk making millions saying"we have to respect the verdict"....even though the rationale was contradictory and made no sense...

he needs to go back to doing what he does best..
no,not the sanctimonious thing...

the stalking and harassing of women...

i don`t have to respect shit...

 

[smurphy]

I think you should have gone ahead with the longer rant.

For the record, I would have voted for death if I was on the jury. Anything less than life in prison would have infuriated me.

I get the feeling ol Zarq isn't going to have a fun time. I'd imagine that he will not be well liked in federal prison. You will probably be happy with his eventual outcome.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

I've got no prob with it---other than maybe terrorist trying to leverage hostages for his release--his only other chance of seeing daylight is very remote and that being they rule down the road a pres can serve a 3rd term--and then he'd still have to raise about $250,000

Unless they give a third-term, but I doubt that he'd be able to broker a deal to sell weapons to Iran and then be labeled a patriot all from prison. So I agree, he'll die there

 

[gardenweasel]

i don`t know,smurph...i apologize for attacking you...this one just really gets under my skin..

honestly,this decision...reading the jurors rationale(yes,we all know the jury selection process is all about selecting the most-stupid possible pool of morons) is the closest I've ever felt to feeling the extreme moonbats may have a point when they say we deserve these attacks.....

it`s not even the fact that he didn`t get the hook...it`s WHY he didn`t get it that grates,,,

i get the impression that this juror pool couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel....

a man is part of a conspiracy that kills 3,000 of our fellow citizens, and all we can do is make conjecture about the bastard's childhood?!?!.....what in the hell is it going to take before we realize that this isn't just another t.v. show or clever talking point? ...

i have to chill out...it`s just that this was an opportunity for civilian americans to be a part of the fight that we normally rely on our military to prosecute.....and i think they spit the bit......

to me it shows the civilian court system is not equipped to handle these types of people....i hope kahlid sheik mohamed and his buddies never make it to the courthouse door...

keep `em in gitmo or wherever..until they stop trying to kill us...

or,maybe the next time we try one of these bastid`s,it`ll be for something the p.c. crowd really takes seriously..... like slapping a secretary on the ass or not recycling....

then hang him.....

 

[spibble spab]

Let's all hope there's a statute of limitations on the 72 virgins. maybe the ACLU will intervene.. :shrug:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Perhaps you are unaware just how stale your material is. Much more about concern for your mental condition. Humor flew out the window on probably your 4,773rd reference to Willy."
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believe it or not 20,000 "opinions and speculations" on Bush get just just as old to conservatives as "facts" on Bill are to liberals.


"Marc Rich, an agent helping the Reagan illegal Iran-Contra 'situation' along being pardoned? PROBLEM!"
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A president--possibly future pres and her brother receiving money for pardoning 7th most wanted felon---NO PROBLEM to you :shrug:

 

[StevieD]

Wasn't the kiddie pornographer and Cheney aid I. Scooter Libby Rich's attorney?

 

[djv]

It almost sounds like terrorist don't even want this dumb ass on there side. Or maybe he was just smart enough to avoid death with his remarks. I would say in less then 3 years he's dead. By the way a win win for us if that happens. If he would have got death. Just think of money that would have cost us with his appeals.

 

[kneifl]

I'll speak out on this one as I don't say much in this forum.

If I were on the Jury I would have voted for the death penalty. It sickened me to hear when he was on trial up here in Alexandria he was asked these questions, and his responses:

(Prosecutor) How did you feel when the planes hit the Twin Towers?

(Moussaoui) Made my Day.

This was the quote that was most talked about in Alexandria that made people sick.

Other quotes:

Al-Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui said he wished it could be September 11 every day, had "no remorse" for the carnage, and mocked grief-stricken survivors as "pathetic" and "disgusting."

"It make my day," Moussaoui replied when asked to react to harrowing testimony from families shattered by the loss of loved ones in the 2001 attacks which killed nearly 3,000 people.

Moussaoui testifies he has no remorse and is willing to kill Americans "any time, anywhere."

Asked by Prosecutor Rob Spencer about what he thought of September 11, Moussaoui replied quickly, "No regret, no remorse."

"I just wish it had happened on the 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th, we can go on and on."

Anyway, it looks like he is getting a life sentence. I really have no problem with that as long as they stick him in with the General Population. I do not want to see him get stuck in solitary confinement and eat up our tax dollars (I do have a problem with that). If he gets stuck in Gen Pop, he will be lucky to live a year - even prisoners have morals that they go by and they would not be happy having this guy around.

kneifl

 

[Nosigar]

Without reading the whole thread, I have to say I am quite disspointed in Bernie's posture here. Liberal "centrist" as he may be, he usually is 60% correct on more important issues.

I'll admit I did at some time ponder the advantages of a "Life" sentence due to the martyr factor, etc. But I don't think any of that would change the "Towels Head's" minds. They'll still sell "Moussaoui" T-shirts in the Akraba flea market. And knowing our media, liberal groups, human rights orgs., etc., I know that this guy will be able to continue his propaganda, somehow, from prison, and constitute an example of a nation so "advanced, fair and tolerant" that it is unable to eliminate its enemies even when she has them in her hands.

Ultratolerance, fear, feminization of the country? I don't know which if any, or all. But it is certainly sad and dissapointing.

 

[kosar]

The judge said that she didn't think he even knew about 9/11, much less was going to be a part of it. The point being that nobody knows for sure.

I understand the bloodlust here that is generated from his horrible comments and all that.

I also understand the absurdity of the reasons given by the jury for not electing the death penalty.

All the dramatic hyperbole of gardenweasel aside, in the end I just don't think there is much difference between life in prison w/no parole, and death.

It probably wouldn't make a difference either way, but I lean to the opinion that death would make him a martyr and life in prison is a harsher penalty in this situation.

How can anyone really think that executing this guy would 'send a message' to all those lunatics? Are you f*cking kidding me?

 

[kosar]

A president--possibly future pres and her brother receiving money for pardoning 7th most wanted felon---NO PROBLEM to you :shrug:

Of course it's a problem. Marc Rich paid for his pardon and it was a shady deal. No question about it. I've said that before. He wasn't exactly a murderer, but Bubba definitely did it in response to campaign contributions.

Now how about all the other stuff that I mentioned?

Problem, or not?

 

[NySportsfan]

The judge said that she didn't think he even knew about 9/11, much less was going to be a part of it. The point being that nobody knows for sure.

I understand the bloodlust here that is generated from his horrible comments and all that.

I also understand the absurdity of the reasons given by the jury for not electing the death penalty.

All the dramatic hyperbole of gardenweasel aside, in the end I just don't think there is much difference between life in prison w/no parole, and death.

It probably wouldn't make a difference either way, but I lean to the opinion that death would make him a martyr and life in prison is a harsher penalty in this situation.

How can anyone really think that executing this guy would 'send a message' to all those lunatics? Are you f*cking kidding me?

yeah, letting a mass murderer live for the rest of his life being fed, able to write letters and see daylight, instead of killing the guy, really is fair :mj07: :mj07: I mean the martyr argument I guess you could say, it's too bad this country doesnt have an eye for an eye as punishment, although hopefully a fellow inmate takes it into his own hands....gardenweasel is 100% right :toast: the liberals do get ridiculous, I dont know how the jury can find the logic, the twisted one you mentioned, to only give him life in prison, prison is a vacation for some of these guys and he shouldve been executed, what a shame

 

[kosar]

yeah, letting a mass murderer

Only got this far because I figured the rest would only get more ignorant.

The judge said that she didn't think he even knew about 9/11, but somehow he's a 'mass murderer.'

 

[Nosigar]

I understand the bloodlust here that is generated from his horrible comments and all that.

I also understand the absurdity of the reasons given by the jury for not electing the death penalty.

Boodlust?

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Killer instinct, in human behavior, is a reference to the human propensity to kill, murder. It may also refer to killing an opponent in a less literal sense.

This instinct can either be a natural inclination, or a programmed response. In the case of inclination, one feels the inner need or desire to harm or kill another for no appearent reason (otherwise perfectly calm and lucid). As a programmed response, soldiers are trained to kill others without regard or remorse, as a reflex action triggered by those not wearing your uniform.

I think you got it wrong.
For me, and many others, it is our lack of capacity to carry out a difficult, perhaps engaging task, that which worries us.

 

[NySportsfan]

Only got this far because I figured the rest would only get more ignorant.

The judge said that she didn't think he even knew about 9/11, but somehow he's a 'mass murderer.'

right, but kniefl said the guy stated "he wished 9-11 happened on the 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th etc" yet he must have never knew about it? why is he on trial then? christ, gardenweasel is speaking the truth here, but you seem to not enjoy logic much, the rest wasnt ignorant it was agreeing w/GW as he was stating facts and how can you say life in prison is adequate punishment, the guy shouldnt be allowed to see daylight, you have to be kidding me, well no you dont, if you watch MSNBC then I can see how you believe that

 

[gardenweasel]

he was al qaeda...he was here...his mission was to learn to fly planes and to be ready by september of 2001...

any correlation there?...ya think?...


does conspiracy to commit murder with no resulting murder merit the death penalty?...of course..


3000 dead aren't enough?..he wasn't a triggerman only because he was in jail.....if being a conspirator to commit mass murder ain't no big nevermind, why stop there? ....

just legalize murder, and be done with it....


i guess that i should be satisfied that he was convicted in the first place given that clinton appointee brinkema handicapped the prosecution at every stage, including the penalty stage.....

liberals the aclu will spend a fortune suing over every alleged injustice and the government will spend a fortune making sure nothing happens to him....

count on some scumbag lawyers to help him run jihad from his cell....that's already happened in at least one case... and count on some liberal moonbat marriage proposals...

i also find it very interesting that the interviews from the victim`s families at the courthouse haven`t included a single family that wanted to see moussaoui put to death......

i guess none of the families disagreed with the verdict...

a few bush bashing comments...o.k....not one person indicating disappointment at the courthouse?...

hmmmmmm??

why an i not surprised...

i can only hope that the toilet at the supermax is facing away from mecca..



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[AR182]

Of course it's a problem. Marc Rich paid for his pardon and it was a shady deal. No question about it. I've said that before. He wasn't exactly a murderer, but Bubba definitely did it in response to campaign contributions.

there was also rumors that clinton was banging rich's wife or ex-wife (not sure).

 

[smurphy]

Why do you guys care at all what this asshole said or chanted? Would it make a difference if he renounced Allah and showed remorse? Shlt he says has no bearing. You act surprised at the obvious.

And no - I can't make the connection os this being a reflection of a feminized society afraid to do what is necessary. You people act like he got off or something. So he doesn't die a quick PAINLESS death - so what.

Many actual family members of 9-11 victims were against the death penalty for this guy. Are you going to pass judgement on them? Do you have that authority.

If all of you outraged do-nothings are truly that disappointed and infuriated then ......DO SOMETHING. Walk your talk - bust a cap in his ass. As it is you just sound like the very feminized cry baby culture you despise.

 

[kosar]

uh-oh