mac football preseason ramblings ....
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not the prettiest of games and certainly not one to get crazy with but to open the season, making a small play on
eastern michigan (+5)
eastern michigan moneyline (+190)
theyre simply better than ball state. emu looking to avenge their meltdown from late last season against bsu. mentioned it above, but emich blew a 25-7 lead with 7:30 left to lose 26-25 after ball state scored with 0:12 lynch/love TD pass. final stats were lopsided though -- emich outgained bsu 493-237 and had a 26-15 FD edge and a massive 39:48/20:05 edge in TOP. normally dont like to make too much of stats but those numbers dont lie. emu flat out gave that game away. tyler jones is similar to cochran from toledo in that they both got their feet wet at the qb position last year and arent going into the season completely inexperienced. while i normally abhor teasers, gotta think emu (+ double digits) is a sound bet here if you go that route. think they win SU. emu with considerably more talent at the skill positions.
non-mac, non-september (or october for that matter) play:
louisville (-4.5) (-102) over west virginia
both of these teams are going to breeze through the big east, but payback with be a bi.tch for wvu in this one. cards (-) anything less than a touchdown at papa johns is worth a strong look. if the ville can find a way to beat miami in mid-september, they will likely be 7 pt favorites when wvu comes calling in early november (because they should obliterate the rest of their schedule up to that point). pinny's number seems very soft due to wvu's strong finish last year and the ville's mediocre play after cantwell had to take over for brohm unexpectedly to close '05. you can make a strong argument that louisville could/should have won by 14+ in morgantown last year. wvu is going to be damn good, but this looks like their only loss and it could likely come by DD.
eastern michigan (+5)
eastern michigan moneyline (+190)
theyre simply better than ball state. emu looking to avenge their meltdown from late last season against bsu. mentioned it above, but emich blew a 25-7 lead with 7:30 left to lose 26-25 after ball state scored with 0:12 lynch/love TD pass. final stats were lopsided though -- emich outgained bsu 493-237 and had a 26-15 FD edge and a massive 39:48/20:05 edge in TOP. normally dont like to make too much of stats but those numbers dont lie. emu flat out gave that game away. tyler jones is similar to cochran from toledo in that they both got their feet wet at the qb position last year and arent going into the season completely inexperienced. while i normally abhor teasers, gotta think emu (+ double digits) is a sound bet here if you go that route. think they win SU. emu with considerably more talent at the skill positions.
non-mac, non-september (or october for that matter) play:
louisville (-4.5) (-102) over west virginia
both of these teams are going to breeze through the big east, but payback with be a bi.tch for wvu in this one. cards (-) anything less than a touchdown at papa johns is worth a strong look. if the ville can find a way to beat miami in mid-september, they will likely be 7 pt favorites when wvu comes calling in early november (because they should obliterate the rest of their schedule up to that point). pinny's number seems very soft due to wvu's strong finish last year and the ville's mediocre play after cantwell had to take over for brohm unexpectedly to close '05. you can make a strong argument that louisville could/should have won by 14+ in morgantown last year. wvu is going to be damn good, but this looks like their only loss and it could likely come by DD.
good stuff as usual G...
best of luck this season ...Like that Cardinal play...lots of prognosticators calling for big things from West virginia this year...but personally think Louisville is the best team in Big east..
cooz
best of luck this season ...Like that Cardinal play...lots of prognosticators calling for big things from West virginia this year...but personally think Louisville is the best team in Big east..
cooz
Always enjoy your stuff, nobody puts in more hours than you when it comes to the MAC. Yes I do recall you saying that the Flashes could be a huge surprise this year, and I do think that they will be much improved. If the number gets to 17, I will punch out a play vs. the gophers.
The thoughts here are that the Zips really caught lightning in a bottle last year and are seriously over rated in most of the MAC previews that I have read so far. Remember, that last years MAC champs were the same group that were shut out at home by Army, and Hixon will be a huge loss. I think that Penn State wins the opener by 28+.
CMU and OU are the programs that I like to move forward this year, and both may be under valued early.
Wish you well this year, and hopefully we( Falcon & Carl) can all hook up for a game some night.
The thoughts here are that the Zips really caught lightning in a bottle last year and are seriously over rated in most of the MAC previews that I have read so far. Remember, that last years MAC champs were the same group that were shut out at home by Army, and Hixon will be a huge loss. I think that Penn State wins the opener by 28+.
CMU and OU are the programs that I like to move forward this year, and both may be under valued early.
Wish you well this year, and hopefully we( Falcon & Carl) can all hook up for a game some night.
thanks for the post Gman, good points on OSU and now laying off...but def am taking Wolfe total rushing yards over PROP
QUICK QUESTION
WHERE DO YOU GET FUTURE LINES FOR GAMES THAT ARE NOT IN THE UPCOMING WeEK? Really wanna look at some of these lines/gams and and make some futures bets
vyrus:
that louisville line is from pinnacle. im speculating here, but i thought i remember carib and betcris offering the same types of lines last year as well. perhaps they have them available now but i dont know.
heres the pinnacle link, assuming it works correctly:
http://www11.pinnaclesports.com/gue...ntestType=2006 NCAA Football Marquee Matchups
as for osu/niu, you could very well be right on the money with northern. theyre certainly capable of hanging within single digits. dont let me completely talk you out of a play if thats what you had circled. just felt obligated to offer to most honest response possible. i do completely agree with the wolfe prop though. when you see a # on that one, let me know. i think win or lose, he has a big game.
that louisville line is from pinnacle. im speculating here, but i thought i remember carib and betcris offering the same types of lines last year as well. perhaps they have them available now but i dont know.
heres the pinnacle link, assuming it works correctly:
http://www11.pinnaclesports.com/gue...ntestType=2006 NCAA Football Marquee Matchups
as for osu/niu, you could very well be right on the money with northern. theyre certainly capable of hanging within single digits. dont let me completely talk you out of a play if thats what you had circled. just felt obligated to offer to most honest response possible. i do completely agree with the wolfe prop though. when you see a # on that one, let me know. i think win or lose, he has a big game.
first of all.... what's that smell? ah yes, it's college football. i love it.
gman, great stuff as always. thank you. i know i'll be referring back to this post often this year.
spang, be careful if you were thinking about jumping on penn state against akron. this is nowhere near the same psu team as last year. not only are we replacing mrob (a terrible qb, in my opinion, but an irreplacable leader) and, i believe, the entire offensive line, but the entire defensive secondary is new as well. so i wouldn't expect psu to put up a lot of points and getsy, if given time, will find some open receivers. not to mention the fact that joepa is hardly known for running up the score. oh, and we have notre dame on deck for next week.
gman, great stuff as always. thank you. i know i'll be referring back to this post often this year.
spang, be careful if you were thinking about jumping on penn state against akron. this is nowhere near the same psu team as last year. not only are we replacing mrob (a terrible qb, in my opinion, but an irreplacable leader) and, i believe, the entire offensive line, but the entire defensive secondary is new as well. so i wouldn't expect psu to put up a lot of points and getsy, if given time, will find some open receivers. not to mention the fact that joepa is hardly known for running up the score. oh, and we have notre dame on deck for next week.
Any chance my boys lose the opener to Bowling Green straight up? I was a late entry into a suicide pool and was going to use them for one of my two picks, and I just flat-out know nothing about this game.
whats funny Gman is when games like this have such big impact players, and the props are put out, the star player MANY TIMES has had a crap game, only for ANOTHER player to BREAK LOOSE and make a name for himself and still win/cover the game...we have seen it so many times...i mean minus the star recruits who everon already is expecting the burst (Reggie Bush would be a good example), this is how big names are made in the NCAA...big game, big names, and a name nobody thought would make an impact comes out and has an outstanding game, especially when the opponents defense is planned aroudn th marque player (wolfe)...either wya still think the game iws worht a unit...NIU with their best running back in school history(maybe the best running back to ever come out of the MAC in terms of speed back, IMHO), against a defense that will be playing with an entirely new back 7...def worth the shot, even though OSU will have a field day running against that NIU DefenseLESS...however 18 points, with a team looking ahead to their biggest game of the year (and this tim their will be alot more concentration, last year it was a Texast team that was just beginning to explode on their way to the NC), and with OSU losing last year in heartbreaking fashion (what a catch at the end of reg), and this time the game means ALOT more to OSU IMO: losing at home last year, playing the defending nationa champs, best coach in the nation trying to avoid 2 HUGE losses in a row (very well coudl end their NC aspirations in week 2 if they lose, actually its pretty much certain unless a whole bunch of diff scenarios occur)....anyway, I def think Tressel has already checked this game off as a victory and is looking forward to his CLASH with Mack Brown and the Horns in Texas wk 2...but like you said, OSU isnt just going to put in the subs halfway through, they want real game exprience before their biggest game, but how can we not take Wolfe, against a unexperienced back 7, with 2 TD/1FG + ....anything can happen, and ill l def throw a unit on NIU,,
tailing you on EMU as well, might make it a 2 unit play
ive always admired you for your concision and the way you get right to the point :mj07:
bjfinste-
there are probably 'safer' 9 or 10 point favorites on the board, but i would have to agree with falcon. its going to take something out of the ordinary for bg to win. this bg team is nothing like the team last year that nearly won in madison.
aside from bg breaking in a completely new offensive backfield, they are also going to be without corey partridge for this one as well. not sure if you recall the opener last year, but partridge caught 8 balls for 160 and was a pain in the azz for the wisky defense. hes out for a few weeks with a knee injury.
the only reason i give bg a slight chance is because (with all due respect to your red and white) im not really sold on wisconsin as being a powerhouse this year. it will be interesting to see how the crowd responds in this one. proximity obviously favors bg but south florida and temple hardly have raucous atmospheres at their respective pro stadiums.
I agree with that completely. A whole lotta question marks. It's a bit frightning as an alum to know that Stocco is the closest thing to a sure thing on the offense.
The rule in our pool is favored by less than 14 according the the guy running it, and his line source has Houston at -13.5, so I just used the Cougs for both of my entries. Feel pretty safe with that one.
Thanks for the input (both of you).
The BG/Wisky game will be a fun one boys...well at least the tailgate party will be. The menu isn't set in stone, but I gotta believe we will be looking at some brats, shrimp, and plenty of ice cold Miller Delite. BG has banked on great skill position players in key spots over the last few years, and there are fewer big play people this year than we have seen since the Blackney years. So even with the question marks in Madison, I don't see BG winning this game.
I hope you are wrong about EMU/Testicle Tech, but I do understand your points. Deslauriers is an excellent player...as a matter of fact he could probably play quite a few snaps for the other university in Washtenaw County. I am banking on Brady Hoke making improvements to a team that had some success even with all of the suspensions early on. This is one Michigan assistant that I believe will be a big time coach when it is all said and done, and i see him riding last season's late year success to a home win.
Looking forward to another MAC season.
I hope you are wrong about EMU/Testicle Tech, but I do understand your points. Deslauriers is an excellent player...as a matter of fact he could probably play quite a few snaps for the other university in Washtenaw County. I am banking on Brady Hoke making improvements to a team that had some success even with all of the suspensions early on. This is one Michigan assistant that I believe will be a big time coach when it is all said and done, and i see him riding last season's late year success to a home win.
Looking forward to another MAC season.
it seems like brandon is content to throw his freshmen into the fire this saturday against wisky with as many as 8 of them getting onto the field. even though turner is going to assume the qb position when he gets back from suspension, im eager to see what barnes can do. the coaches are raving about this kid and want to find ways to keep him on the field in a slash role even when turner comes back. the problem, of course, is that no matter how good barnes is, he's working with a very raw group of backs and receivers.
btw- spackler, see if you can get my email from falcon as id like to have it saved for the upcoming season. thanks buddy.
btw- spackler, see if you can get my email from falcon as id like to have it saved for the upcoming season. thanks buddy.
Any strong opinion either way on the Buff/Temple game? I know they are two HORRIBLE teams, but my numbers have Buff "dinking and dunking" them to death. Interesting to see what you have to say.
Thanks,
Hucklebuck
Thanks,
Hucklebuck
huckle:
while theres no way i could comfortably put money down on either side in that temple/UB game, i do think its a 'buffalo or nothin' kind of game. it says a lot about the temple program that theyve had a 4-man quartberback battle in fall camp and still hadnt decided on a starter even a day before the game. at least buffalo has some stability there with willy, who could be a very capable quarterback in the mac if he ever gets a full complement of weapons to work with. surprisingly, buffalo is also expecting a turnout of 25,000+ for this game, and that obviously can be attributed more to the optimism that surrounds turner gill and the new coaching staff rather than the actual opponent on the other side of the field. again, imo its buffalo or nothin' but 'nothin' sounds more appealing.
while theres no way i could comfortably put money down on either side in that temple/UB game, i do think its a 'buffalo or nothin' kind of game. it says a lot about the temple program that theyve had a 4-man quartberback battle in fall camp and still hadnt decided on a starter even a day before the game. at least buffalo has some stability there with willy, who could be a very capable quarterback in the mac if he ever gets a full complement of weapons to work with. surprisingly, buffalo is also expecting a turnout of 25,000+ for this game, and that obviously can be attributed more to the optimism that surrounds turner gill and the new coaching staff rather than the actual opponent on the other side of the field. again, imo its buffalo or nothin' but 'nothin' sounds more appealing.
