Manny ramirez pulled from line-up
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i heard about a 3 way deal
cameron was involved but he is playing
and huff from the rays was involved playing also
espn is making it a big story that he is not in the line up,but no report of a trade yet
cameron was involved but he is playing
and huff from the rays was involved playing also
espn is making it a big story that he is not in the line up,but no report of a trade yet
the announcers are saying that he may be being held out of the line-up by management....no announcement yet...
everyone is in the dark here..
cooz
everyone is in the dark here..
cooz
ESPN radio says read into this what you want :
The METS have sat down Cliff Floyd tonite ...and have reported Tampa has dropped out of the 3-way deal. Tampa was starting to get greedy looking for Boston's prospects.
The METS have sat down Cliff Floyd tonite ...and have reported Tampa has dropped out of the 3-way deal. Tampa was starting to get greedy looking for Boston's prospects.
Now they say MANNY RAMIREZ didn't show up at the ballpark.
i remember Julio Franco AWOL fron a Yankee game one Saturday. That was a long time ago. :scared
i remember Julio Franco AWOL fron a Yankee game one Saturday. That was a long time ago. :scared
homedog said:
you doubt it?
then why would he not show up?
make some sense please
has to be a reason why he did not show up
the moron answer wont cut it
soul train said:
well considering this is the same guy that in cleveland gave his cars to the clubhouse attendants to drive around and do as they please when he was out of town on road trips.... and he also left as much as 75,000 in cash in his glove compartment on numerous occasions..... we have to remember that he's not exactly the brightest guy out there.
gman2 said:
well its not everyday a guy does not show up to the ball park
if its true that he did not show up
i would say the obvious reason is the trade rumors
who really cares about his off the field antics the guy is a great player
world series ring
world series MVP
WITH NUMBERS LIKE THESE WHO CARES WHAT HE DOES OFF THE FIELD,HE CAN PLAY ON MY TEAM ANYDAY
Career: Batting | Fielding
SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1993 Cle 22 53 5 9 1 0 2 5 2 8 0 0 .170 .200 .302 .502
1994 Cle 91 290 51 78 22 0 17 60 42 72 4 2 .269 .357 .521 .878
1995 Cle 137 484 85 149 26 1 31 107 75 112 6 6 .308 .402 .558 .960
1996 Cle 152 550 94 170 45 3 33 112 85 104 8 5 .309 .399 .582 .981
1997 Cle 150 561 99 184 40 0 26 88 79 115 2 3 .328 .415 .538 .953
1998 Cle 150 571 108 168 35 2 45 145 76 121 5 3 .294 .377 .599 .976
1999 Cle 147 522 131 174 34 3 44 165 96 131 2 4 .333 .442 .663 1.105
2000 Cle 118 439 92 154 34 2 38 122 86 117 1 1 .351 .457 .697 1.154
2001 Bos 142 529 93 162 33 2 41 125 81 147 0 1 .306 .405 .609 1.014
2002 Bos 120 436 84 152 31 0 33 107 73 85 0 0 .349 .450 .647 1.097
2003 Bos 154 569 117 185 36 1 37 104 97 94 3 1 .325 .427 .587 1.014
2004 Bos 152 568 108 175 44 0 43 130 82 124 2 4 .308 .397 .613 1.010
2005 Bos 97 352 68 96 19 1 28 92 51 80 1 0 .273 .370 .571 .941
Total -- 1632 5924 1135 1856 400 15 418 1362 925 1310 34 30 .313 .408 .598 1.006
Ramirez scratched, Cameron upset by trade talk
AP Sports Writer
July 30, 2005
With Boston still discussing a three-team trade that would send Manny Ramirez to the New York Mets, the Red Sox removed the All-Star outfielder from their game against the Minnesota Twins on Saturday night.
An official involved in the talks said Saturday evening that the sides were still far apart in the much-discussed, three-team trade, which also involved the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
``After meeting with Manny Ramirez, manager Terry Francona made the decision shortly before game time that, under the circumstances, it was in the best interests of the club and of Manny that he not be in the starting lineup tonight,'' the Red Sox said in a statement.
New York Mets outfielder Mike Cameron said he was upset by talk that he could be included in a trade for the Red Sox All-Star slugger. The Mets would also include outfielder Lastings Milledge, the 12th overall pick in the 2003 amateur draft.
Devil Rays general manager Chuck LaMar said he expected talks could continue until Sunday afternoon's 4 p.m. EDT deadline for trades without waivers.
``We have had discussions with both teams, not only in a combined deal, but separate deals with each one of those teams,'' he said in Tampa Bay. ``It's hard enough to make a real good trade (with two teams). When you start adding a third team, there are a lot of logistics.''
After saying he didn't want to talk about the deal, Cameron volunteered that he didn't sleep much Friday night because he'd gotten ``calls all day and night long'' -- and that he didn't like being the subject of rumors.
``I can't even take it,'' he said before the Mets played at Houston. ``I thought I can handle it. I can't.''
Cameron has been traded twice before, from the Chicago White Sox to Cincinnati in 1998 and from the Reds to Seattle in 2000 for Ken Griffey Jr. However, both deals were made in the offseason.
Cameron has been linked to many other trades that never happened, which is why Mets manager Willie Randolph said he wouldn't even discuss the matter with his right fielder. Cameron was in the starting lineup, batting third, Saturday night against Houston.
``I trust Cammy,'' Randolph said. ``He's been through this before. Didn't we go through this in spring training? I think he's mature enough to understand the business and the way it is.''
In other trade talk:
-- The Chicago White Sox were talking to the Devil Rays about closer Danys Baez and outfielder Aubrey Huff, who were involved in discussions in the three-team trade.
-- The New York Yankees were talking with Seattle about Randy Winn -- who didn't play Saturday -- and with San Francisco about reliever Scott Eyre. New York also signed left-hander Alan Embree, released by Boston a day earlier. The Giants also talked with the Mariners about a trade for Winn.
-- Minnesota was also talking to the Mariners about Winn as a possible replacement for injured center fielder Torii Hunter. The Twins also were said by an official with another team to have inquired about Texas second baseman Alfonso Soriano.
Winn was in Seattle's original lineup Saturday but was scratched, and Mariners general manager Bill Bavasi was asked if anything should be read into that.
``Not yet,'' he said.
-- Astros general manager Tim Purpura said his team had a trade in place for a veteran pitcher, but the pitcher, whom he didn't identify, rejected it using his rights as a 10-year veteran who had been with his team for five years. It is possible the pitcher involved was Seattle's Jamie Moyer.
AP Sports Writer
July 30, 2005
With Boston still discussing a three-team trade that would send Manny Ramirez to the New York Mets, the Red Sox removed the All-Star outfielder from their game against the Minnesota Twins on Saturday night.
An official involved in the talks said Saturday evening that the sides were still far apart in the much-discussed, three-team trade, which also involved the Tampa Bay Devil Rays.
``After meeting with Manny Ramirez, manager Terry Francona made the decision shortly before game time that, under the circumstances, it was in the best interests of the club and of Manny that he not be in the starting lineup tonight,'' the Red Sox said in a statement.
New York Mets outfielder Mike Cameron said he was upset by talk that he could be included in a trade for the Red Sox All-Star slugger. The Mets would also include outfielder Lastings Milledge, the 12th overall pick in the 2003 amateur draft.
Devil Rays general manager Chuck LaMar said he expected talks could continue until Sunday afternoon's 4 p.m. EDT deadline for trades without waivers.
``We have had discussions with both teams, not only in a combined deal, but separate deals with each one of those teams,'' he said in Tampa Bay. ``It's hard enough to make a real good trade (with two teams). When you start adding a third team, there are a lot of logistics.''
After saying he didn't want to talk about the deal, Cameron volunteered that he didn't sleep much Friday night because he'd gotten ``calls all day and night long'' -- and that he didn't like being the subject of rumors.
``I can't even take it,'' he said before the Mets played at Houston. ``I thought I can handle it. I can't.''
Cameron has been traded twice before, from the Chicago White Sox to Cincinnati in 1998 and from the Reds to Seattle in 2000 for Ken Griffey Jr. However, both deals were made in the offseason.
Cameron has been linked to many other trades that never happened, which is why Mets manager Willie Randolph said he wouldn't even discuss the matter with his right fielder. Cameron was in the starting lineup, batting third, Saturday night against Houston.
``I trust Cammy,'' Randolph said. ``He's been through this before. Didn't we go through this in spring training? I think he's mature enough to understand the business and the way it is.''
In other trade talk:
-- The Chicago White Sox were talking to the Devil Rays about closer Danys Baez and outfielder Aubrey Huff, who were involved in discussions in the three-team trade.
-- The New York Yankees were talking with Seattle about Randy Winn -- who didn't play Saturday -- and with San Francisco about reliever Scott Eyre. New York also signed left-hander Alan Embree, released by Boston a day earlier. The Giants also talked with the Mariners about a trade for Winn.
-- Minnesota was also talking to the Mariners about Winn as a possible replacement for injured center fielder Torii Hunter. The Twins also were said by an official with another team to have inquired about Texas second baseman Alfonso Soriano.
Winn was in Seattle's original lineup Saturday but was scratched, and Mariners general manager Bill Bavasi was asked if anything should be read into that.
``Not yet,'' he said.
-- Astros general manager Tim Purpura said his team had a trade in place for a veteran pitcher, but the pitcher, whom he didn't identify, rejected it using his rights as a 10-year veteran who had been with his team for five years. It is possible the pitcher involved was Seattle's Jamie Moyer.
7:30 p.m. ET:
The White Sox have made their final push, asking again about all three of their target acquisitions: A.J. Burnett, Billy Wagner and Huff. The Sox have made their best offers on all three and would take the first agreement, since all offers involve common players. It's an interesting ploy by Kenny Williams and his staff.
The Cardinals continue to work on a deal for an outfielder. The latest discussions involve Brian Giles coming to the Cardinals in return for Jason Marquis. That part would be easy enough, so if this deal gets held up, it will be over minor details of money and additional prospects.
The White Sox have made their final push, asking again about all three of their target acquisitions: A.J. Burnett, Billy Wagner and Huff. The Sox have made their best offers on all three and would take the first agreement, since all offers involve common players. It's an interesting ploy by Kenny Williams and his staff.
The Cardinals continue to work on a deal for an outfielder. The latest discussions involve Brian Giles coming to the Cardinals in return for Jason Marquis. That part would be easy enough, so if this deal gets held up, it will be over minor details of money and additional prospects.
i dont ever remember saying anything about ramirez as a player. he might be one of my favorite indians of all time. the guy can flat out hit.
but with him, the "little things" or "obvious things" are always a circus. he's an absolute offensive machine. probably one of the best, if not the best, pure hitter of this generation. but how can you act surprised when he fails to do something obvious or simple like show up to the park? he's in his own "manny world". see, im not being critical. but i guess youd have to live in cleveland or boston to understand what i mean. its not a criticism of him as a player. but hes eccentric to say the least and he marches to his own beat. im not sure if he grasps the concept of how great a player he is or how much he means to an organization or city. he's just "manny".
but with him, the "little things" or "obvious things" are always a circus. he's an absolute offensive machine. probably one of the best, if not the best, pure hitter of this generation. but how can you act surprised when he fails to do something obvious or simple like show up to the park? he's in his own "manny world". see, im not being critical. but i guess youd have to live in cleveland or boston to understand what i mean. its not a criticism of him as a player. but hes eccentric to say the least and he marches to his own beat. im not sure if he grasps the concept of how great a player he is or how much he means to an organization or city. he's just "manny".