MasterCard Championship (Seniors)

[Stanley]

Matchup plays (3 units):

Gary Player to beat Arnold Palmer -111 @ BetandWin
Wasn't going to look at the markets for this event until tomorrow, but stumbled across this line ... and what a mistake! Apart from dominating Arnie in their UBS Warburg Cup games, Player has a 5-0-0 h2h record against him over the past year and 16-1-0 over the past three years. The last time Arnie finished in the top-50 of an event was in 1998; Player finished in the top-50 in three of his last six events of 2002. Arnie is only here because he can't justify playing so poorly in his own event and he must be odds-on to finish last. Only half-stakes for the first four weeks of the season, but this is a max play!

 

[Clive]

True, but Arnie did beat him in Warburg two years ago! Apart from that, it is a maximum...all ?10 of it at Betandwin!

I've had a large one too on Green to beat Nicklaus..not quite as clear cut as this one, but still ok.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I'll side with that.
Player -111 over Palmer

Don't know if I can count it full unit but will so for accounting practices.
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---and where are my manners? Thanks for heads up Stan

 

[Clive]

Just deposited into my disused account, but alas, I was only allowed ?10!

Thanks anyway Stan.

On the outrights I have gone for;

John Jacobs 60/1 Centrebet - 1st and 2nd here in last 4 yrs, huge off the tee, which always does well here

Fleisher 12/1 Sky - cos I think he'll be fitter than most

Nelson 25/1 Hills - too big, still one of the best out here on his day

Hills also limited my bet...this game is getting harder and harder

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Hope to get funded at skybet soon.Sent Global Express last week with 1/2 deposit in cash to get posted asap. Whats chance of that disappearing. I sent it attention of Paul "somebody"

Ya know Clive I know you guys fire pretty heavy but I think it is sheer stupidity for book to cut small time player with chance of him leaving.Had discussion with Wally @ Oly last year and he takes same approach as Mark (whats his name) did at Camelot.
They love recreational cappers with a little capping ability as an inexpensive peek to see flow of lines and suspect lines.

 

[Stanley]

I looked at the Nicklaus one as well, but he seemed to play ok in the Skins last week (unlike Arnie) , so will wait myself.

I must admit, I have been able to get on a much bigger number, but then I haven't been systematically hitting them with parlays

Don't want to threaten my ability to capitalise on lines like these

 

[Stanley]

Sounds like you need to re-invent yourself, like you did for "Gary's Place"

"Seedy" does conjure up a strange image though :lol:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Its mostly your plays I've been parlaying Stan:lol:
---and only Bet $10 for most part so they haven't curtailed them any.:shrug:
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good point:thumb:

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I fear I pissed off their idol David T :hail

 

[Stanley]

:yup :lol:

 

[Clive]

nothing sinister Stan, just my initials! CD...

wasn't it DavidT who wrote that you had to have a very good reason not to back Els last week??? I think I saw one on the 18th...and remember, he is paid to tip in tournaments!

Hills appear to have made a trading decision...

By the way, talking of different names on forums, I reckon Trant on Betting forum is really Ian...

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I got down for the small amount at -111, but for anyone interested it just jumped to -154 but you can now get a little more down if interested.

 

[Clive]

Now removed from the available markets...was good whilst it lasted...also a move for Hall over Trevino which is understandable...think the rest are about right...maybe oppose Hatalsky

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Don't think he ment going under different name Clive
Have never posted under any other than DTB ever,anywhere.
I am trying to figure out what he ment myself:SIB

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Will give the Beards a go again despite lackluster results past 2 years. Will coat tail for most part but venture out on a few.

Outright 1 unit total E/W (top 4)
Hatalsky 33/1 @365

Irwin not so hot here prior failing to bust top 10 past 2 year so maybe an E/W in order.Hatalsky has no course form but has youth compared to most and finish top 5 in 1/3 of his 24 events last year.So will give him a peak.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Got email from Ken Galloway @ Skybet that they received funding and will have it set up today and will play an E/W there for 1unit total,would rather take place only but don't want any of 5dimes 3/1 shit.

Tewell 28/1 @ Skybet
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Didn't see where skybet had place only available on this. Am I missing something in their format.?

 

[Stanley]

I hope the lack of place-only options at SkyBet is a product of the limited field. They didn't offer place-only terms for the limited field Sunshine Tour Championship.

I'll try and find out ...

 

[Stanley]

Outright plays (1 unit):

Hale Irwin to win 11/2 @ William Hill
Irwin's record in this event is not impressive for a player of his quality: just one win and two 2nd place finishes in seven visits. But it must be remembered that this is traditionally the season-opening events and that the Senior Skins game is played the following week. He has dominated that event: he has played in three of the last four seasons' Senior Skins and won them all. The MasterCard is there an event in which he gets rid of the cobwebs and given that the Skins was played last week - he didn't win, but was still impressive, hitting 17 of 18 greens in regulation - this could be the week that his game gets into full gear. For the record, he has won the last three other Tour events that stop in Hawaii, the Turtle Bay Championship.

Larry Nelson to finish in the top-four 6.25/1 @ SIA
Nelson won this title two years ago and has a good record in this event generally, but his last win on Tour was at the end of the 2001 season. Back problems have played their part and so the place-only seems a viable option for Nelson, particularly as the full odds of 25/1 are much too large.

Allen Doyle to win 28/1 e.w. @ Stan James
Large price for someone who won the Charles Schwab Cup in 2001. He was winless last year, but he is a very consistent player and has a good record in Hawaii. He has improved his finishing position in this event every year - he was 5th last year - and has a record of three top-3 finishes from four starts in the other Hawaiian event. Unlikely to win, but the place terms at these odds are generous.

 

[Stanley]

Matchup plays (1 unit):

Ed Dougherty to beat Stewart Ginn -105 @ Five Dimes
Opposing Ginn who has yet to play at Hualalai, whereas Dougherty finished 3rd in this event two years ago. With a 15-10-2 h2h record in favour of Dougherty as well, I will take these odds.

Hale Irwin to beat Tom Kite -150 @ Five Dimes
With a h2h record of 14-4-0 in Irwin's favour last year and reasons outlined above why this should be a better performance from Irwin, I'll oppose the defending champion who didn't get the opportunity to get back into competition last week.

Bobby Wadkins to beat Tom Jenkins -130 @ Five Dimes
In three previous visits, Jenkins has a best finish of 16th. Not impressive in a limited field. Will side with a player who finished 3rd last year and also holds a h2h advantage over his opponent in 2002.

Larry Nelson to beat Doug Tewell -122 @ Five Dimes
A record of two top-10 finishes in two visits for Tewell is deceiving. He finished 9 shots behind Nelson in 2001 and 11 shots behind Kite last year - he finished behind Nelson last year as well. He doesn't have the length for this course and I can't see him winning this week, so will oppose with an outright selection.

Dana Quigley to beat Fuzzy Zoeller +110 @ Five Dimes
I don't understand these odds. Zoeller has never played this course beforehand and is far from the hardest-working pro on the Tour ... which is Quigley! He will have been itching for the new season to start and his 'iron man' image is probably one reason why he has finished in the top-4 three times in the last four seasons.

 

[Clive]

Couldn't disagree too much with any of those, although they are not quite in the class of Player v Palmer!!

Will be interested to see how Doyle does as I thought he was on the downgrade last year and expect that to be accelerated this year as there are some much better rookies ready to start competing.

 

[Stanley]

I agree, but he was certainly not attracting 28/1 last year.

Hope the rookies are as good as you expect, the competition has gotten a little stale in the past year or so IMO.