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[The Sponge]

I guess I don't understand what you mean, Sponge. How were families that were on unemployment in the same tax bracket as when they were employed? I certainly know that when my hours were cut dramatically and then I subsequently stopped working (and drawing partial unemployment of my own decision) that our tax bracket changed quite a bit last year. I have long maintained that as long as our country is at war or in multiple wars that there should be no tax cuts for any Americans - and I had no problem with tax cuts going back to historically low rates (before the cuts).

I do understand keeping tax cuts alive for people when things are so tough - for those people. It helps them get by. Not for the upper 1% - they don't do anything with that money that helps anyone but themselves (the economy and job numbers have shown that). I do think the tax cuts hurt the overall deficit, but you can't just blame tax cuts for that. You have to blame spending and democrats for that, too - otherwise, you're not being realistic.

i think i read ur post a little wrong. I know guys like u and SDD would like to forget about blame and move the country forward. I would like the same thing. Just sitting in a room thinking of some good ideas to get the country moving again. My problem is that one side still has the same ideas. These ideas created this mess. So how in the world do u change their mindset when they are dead set on not changing it. Trickled down economics has never worked but it is still the focal point of their ideas. They are not interested if u and i are working. They are interested on how much they can get for the top 1 percent. Their was a time McCain was that guy who would listen and fight for the country but even he got bought. The first big step would be to stop these politicans from getting lobbying jobs after they leave office but how u do that when they are the ones who make up the laws:shrug:

 

[Duff Miver]

exactly, Muff.

It will swing back at some point. Like you say, maybe when everyone is dumpster diving for food or maybe when economic policies enacted by an administration make it worthwhile to manufacture in the US.

Please take a look at Governor Gary Johnson.

Of course one way to swing jobs back is import duties. True, it will increase prices somewhat at Wal*Mart, but I'd rather may more and have folks working and paying taxes.

I clearly remember GW Bush saying that $3 T-shirts at Wal*Mart is a good thing for Americans because it make their money go farther.

I disagree. I think we as a country are better off with low unemployment even if it means a bit less purchasing power.

I put my Money where my mouth is. I always buy American made if available, regardless of price. Just now I ordered some new sandals for my wife, and bought them from the only remaining US manufacturer, never-mind I could have bought some for 50% less at WM. My money is better spent providing jobs for Americans than it is sending them unemployment checks.

I prefer union made goods too.

I guess that makes me some kind of Populist. You betcha' :0074

 

[ssd]

The choice has to be made:

Do we want cheap products - and I mean cheap in every sense of the word or -
do we want well made products that cost more and probably last longer (ie, probably cost about the same because the cheap one breaks and you buy it again?)

Wal_mart and the big box stores have kinda made that decision for us over the past 20 years.

We can change that. (And may have to, if US interest rates go through the roof with all the printing but that is another story....(