Mayorga/Mosley
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I think it's time to bring this bad boy back TTT.
Mayorga is now +675 at The Greek and if anything, looks to be in very decent shape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0fq3euvTM&feature=related
Mayorga is now +675 at The Greek and if anything, looks to be in very decent shape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0fq3euvTM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0c1YgN0oHM&feature=user
I must admit, my 3 year old daughter shows better technique on the speed bag :mj07:
but Mayorga does look in condition :scared
I must admit, my 3 year old daughter shows better technique on the speed bag :mj07:
but Mayorga does look in condition :scared
A good prop for this bout could be "Mosley knocked down", he has a strong chin and can move well, if he's in trouble he should avoid the knockout. But he is a 37-year-old that relies on speed and reflexes. I can see a flash knockdown if his timing isn't as precise as it once was, he does keep his hands low and relies on foot and head speed to avoid shots.
5 years ago, a good bet would have been Mosley by decision, but this Mayorga is seriously damaged. I think Trinidad ruined him. Vargas was slow and didn't throw enough punches, and didn't have any snap behind his punches, Mosley should be banging harder than Vargas.
I'm waiting for the weigh-in, if Mayorga makes 154 comfortably, i'll take a small stab at him, or a prop. Mosley is a Cali hero with a huge fight against Margarito coming if he wins, it's difficult to see Mayorga win a decision. He clearly beat a retiring Vargas and settled for a MD.
I bought back Mayo +450 with Mosley -530, for a small loss either way.
Small bets for fun will be Mosley KO 5-9. As crazy as it sounds Mayorga may actually be ahead after 3, if Mosley starts slow to time his counters and let's him go wild rds 1-3.
Good luck weepaul.
5 years ago, a good bet would have been Mosley by decision, but this Mayorga is seriously damaged. I think Trinidad ruined him. Vargas was slow and didn't throw enough punches, and didn't have any snap behind his punches, Mosley should be banging harder than Vargas.
I'm waiting for the weigh-in, if Mayorga makes 154 comfortably, i'll take a small stab at him, or a prop. Mosley is a Cali hero with a huge fight against Margarito coming if he wins, it's difficult to see Mayorga win a decision. He clearly beat a retiring Vargas and settled for a MD.
I bought back Mayo +450 with Mosley -530, for a small loss either way.
Small bets for fun will be Mosley KO 5-9. As crazy as it sounds Mayorga may actually be ahead after 3, if Mosley starts slow to time his counters and let's him go wild rds 1-3.
Good luck weepaul.
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how long ago was it that mosely lost a hairline decision to cotto?....and basically had him on his bike late?...
maybe it`s me,but i saw mayaorga struggle vs a totally shot vargas.....
but....i`ll never try and deter anyone for taking those big odds...lightning could strike.....
i just don`t see it...
maybe it`s me,but i saw mayaorga struggle vs a totally shot vargas.....
but....i`ll never try and deter anyone for taking those big odds...lightning could strike.....
i just don`t see it...
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almost a year actually, I believe it was last November. I see where you're going with this, but 26 to 27 is different than 36 to 37.
Anyone going to take the bait on Forbes by decision at 9-1 on the undercard? It seems like they're just begging for us to take it. I don't see it happening. I like a Berto prop, KO in 8-12. Berto might get caught with a flash KD, as he did against light-punching Cosme Rivera, coming in too strong and getting timed.
Not much else really.
Not much else really.
The Cotto fight looked good for Mosley BUT it was the first time I have seen him start to get tired at the mid point of a fight.
I love Shane but he is going to turn old overnight at some point and this might just be the fight.
I love Shane but he is going to turn old overnight at some point and this might just be the fight.
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you can't play Mosley in this fight...you just can't.
He is way over-priced. He should win, but the only way to bet the fight is small on Mayorga IMO.
Unless you can figure out a way Mosley wins it and take a shot on the props. But I just don't know.
This one could end a lot of different ways.
I could see Mosley winning in 3 just as easily as I can see a decision, just depends on how much resistance Mayorga is willing to put up.
If he's trained and there to compete, i think its a decision for Mosley.
But at the odds, its small on Mayorga for me.
He is way over-priced. He should win, but the only way to bet the fight is small on Mayorga IMO.
Unless you can figure out a way Mosley wins it and take a shot on the props. But I just don't know.
This one could end a lot of different ways.
I could see Mosley winning in 3 just as easily as I can see a decision, just depends on how much resistance Mayorga is willing to put up.
If he's trained and there to compete, i think its a decision for Mosley.
But at the odds, its small on Mayorga for me.
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Mayorga sure looks lighter than he has in a while. But at what cost. And I think Mosley is actually stronger at 154 than 147. Shane has a big edge in speed and will nail Mayorga repeatedly. Remember how sharp Mosley looked against Vargas, particularly the 2nd go.
at almost 7-1,i understand where you guys are going,too.....and i get it...
i wish you luck...:toast:
i wish you luck...:toast:
let me add that my take is that mayorga`s out of his depth here....he failed miserably vs an old over the hill trinidad and was destroyed by dlh....
i don`t think it`s a great stretch to say that mosley`s in their league...
and theres only 2 year`s difference in their age...
i guess you can make the case that mosley gets old overnight,and that has some merit...but,i`m not sure that mayorga k.o.`ing mosley is realistic....much better fighters haven`t been able to stop mosley...
mayorga`s been averaging around 1 fiight a year the last few years...and mosley`s been a bit more active...
the thing that woyuld concern me is mosley`s mental status after losing a tough fight to cotto(who i think would crush mayorga).....maybe mosley,in his mind,feels like he`s just playing out the string....
i wish i could decide whether mosley inside or mosely by decision made more sense...then i could just hedge it with mayorga at 6 or 7-1....
mosley hasn`t been stopping lots a guys later in his career..but guys at his talent level and in his skill set have been able to outclass and stop mayorga...
anybody that has any insight into whether mosley inside or by decision has more merit,please weigh in...
i don`t think it`s a great stretch to say that mosley`s in their league...
and theres only 2 year`s difference in their age...
i guess you can make the case that mosley gets old overnight,and that has some merit...but,i`m not sure that mayorga k.o.`ing mosley is realistic....much better fighters haven`t been able to stop mosley...
mayorga`s been averaging around 1 fiight a year the last few years...and mosley`s been a bit more active...
the thing that woyuld concern me is mosley`s mental status after losing a tough fight to cotto(who i think would crush mayorga).....maybe mosley,in his mind,feels like he`s just playing out the string....
i wish i could decide whether mosley inside or mosely by decision made more sense...then i could just hedge it with mayorga at 6 or 7-1....
mosley hasn`t been stopping lots a guys later in his career..but guys at his talent level and in his skill set have been able to outclass and stop mayorga...
anybody that has any insight into whether mosley inside or by decision has more merit,please weigh in...
gw, it is a tough pick, evidenced by the lines. Some places you'll find Mosley points -150, others you'll find Mosley KO -150. Really.
Im thinking Mosley KO +125. He is the sharper puncher, and is sure to land some short, accurate counters on a reckless Mayorga coming in, probably a left hook. Im thinking Mosley 7-9, but it's hard to predict the round. Mosley can catch Mayo with a wicked counter in any round and drop him, Mayo's chin is probably dented to that point, where a single perfect punch can take him. Trinidad ended his career imo.
I don't think either outcome prop is a particularly strong play though, I'd lean to KO, especially at a + line.
edit - good point about Mosley viewing this as a downgrade, but as far as I've heard, he's a true pro and enjoys training. Plus a win here likely gives him a shot vs Margo in January, the winner of that bout fights Cotto in the summer. So there is a lot at stake here.
Im thinking Mosley KO +125. He is the sharper puncher, and is sure to land some short, accurate counters on a reckless Mayorga coming in, probably a left hook. Im thinking Mosley 7-9, but it's hard to predict the round. Mosley can catch Mayo with a wicked counter in any round and drop him, Mayo's chin is probably dented to that point, where a single perfect punch can take him. Trinidad ended his career imo.
I don't think either outcome prop is a particularly strong play though, I'd lean to KO, especially at a + line.
edit - good point about Mosley viewing this as a downgrade, but as far as I've heard, he's a true pro and enjoys training. Plus a win here likely gives him a shot vs Margo in January, the winner of that bout fights Cotto in the summer. So there is a lot at stake here.
i read an interview in which mosley made mention several times of dlh`s left hook and what he did to mayorga with it....
i think we`ll see alot of left hooks from mosley......
i don`t know why i mentally pictured mayorga as having a height advantage...he doesn`t...i just always had a mental picture of mosley being the shorter guy...why does mosley always project as being a short guy to me?....mental block... he`s a good 5`9".....:shrug:
i`m glad this thread was pulled back up...i was ambivalent about this fight...now,i`m a little more interested and may put something down on it....
thanks,wee..
after some deliberation, im on Mosley KO +125 small. If Mayo looks good at the weigh in, very small bet on him straight.
Thanks to weepaul for bringing the sportsbook to our attention earlier, it was a good find.
Thanks to weepaul for bringing the sportsbook to our attention earlier, it was a good find.
I think thats a fight to take some chances.
Mayorga is a huge underdog, and frankly I dont see why. Mayorga was badly beaten by Tito, but I think he might just have recoverd from that fight, I think he looked pretty decent against Vargas given that the fight was at 168 pounds and he still retained his explosiveness...
Mosley has stopped a single fighter in his last 12 fights, so I dont think he will stop Mayorga though you never know if Mayo's still hurting from that Trinidad beating...
The best odds you can get on a draw or Mayo on points, Mosley has a very strong chin, but he has lost his timing quite a bit and he didnt rally much against Cotto in the final round, when he was clearly kepping away, so I agree, he's not a fit as he used to be and Mayorga looks to be in pretty decent shape...
I played Mayorg a long time ago, and also made a small play on Mayorga W12 @+2000.
Mayorga is a huge underdog, and frankly I dont see why. Mayorga was badly beaten by Tito, but I think he might just have recoverd from that fight, I think he looked pretty decent against Vargas given that the fight was at 168 pounds and he still retained his explosiveness...
Mosley has stopped a single fighter in his last 12 fights, so I dont think he will stop Mayorga though you never know if Mayo's still hurting from that Trinidad beating...
The best odds you can get on a draw or Mayo on points, Mosley has a very strong chin, but he has lost his timing quite a bit and he didnt rally much against Cotto in the final round, when he was clearly kepping away, so I agree, he's not a fit as he used to be and Mayorga looks to be in pretty decent shape...
I played Mayorg a long time ago, and also made a small play on Mayorga W12 @+2000.
damn mayorga almost looks svelte
funny thing is mosley is going to be surprised by ricardo's speed
he was getting hit by shrek-nando vargas late in first fight after one eye decided to apply some pressure
funny thing is mosley is going to be surprised by ricardo's speed
he was getting hit by shrek-nando vargas late in first fight after one eye decided to apply some pressure
