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well, everybody who was crushed when these two couldn't play this game in 2020 due to a little covid at missouri... REJOICE!!

we have now entered the portion of the bowl season that is full of matchups of mediocre power-4 teams.

oh, the full name is the TransPerfect Music City Bowl. wow, those commercials are really gonna trigger some people.

iowa is missing leading rusher johnson and CB harris, who tied for the team lead in PDs.

mizzou is missing WR Burden, who led the team with 61 receptions, and starting RT Membou. OH, and LB chuck hicks. chuck is missing the game to spend time with his family.

here's a shocker... iowa likes to run the ball. the loss of johnson may be big. he averaged 6.4 yards/carry. that's very impressive, considering they (as usual) had very little threat of the forward pass. his backup, moulton, averaged 5.4. patterson is the only other RB with more than 11 carries, and he averaged 4.4. mizzou is 59th in the country, giving up 4.0 yards/rush.

sullivan gets the start at qb for the hawkeyes. he took over for mcnamara in the northwestern game. after that, he got two starts. he left the 2nd game (against UCLA) with an ankle sprain. in those 2 games, he only threw 19 passes, so we don't have a lot to go on. at home, against wisconsin, he only threw 10 passes, as the hawkeyes blew out the badgers. he completed 7 for 93 yards, 1 TD and 0 INTs. he also ran for 58 yards on 9 carries. at UCLA, he completed 6 of 9 for 157 yards (!) with 0 TDs and 2 (!) INTs. he also ran for 10 yards on 9 carries and took 3 (!) sacks. that's a very busy 12 pass attempts. 3 sacks, 2 INTs, and 36 yards per completion. wow! so in those 2 starts, he averaged over 13 yards/att. very small sample size, but seems like a high-risk/high-reward guy. i'd love any input from our iowa guys, if they're around.

he threw roughly 100 passes each of the last 2 years, when he was with northwestern. his #s there are ok, but certainly unremarkable. he did take a LOT of sacks last year (24 in 99 pass attempts).

if iowa struggles to run the ball, they may open it up a little. it feels like sullivan could throw for 250 yards, or could throw 3 INTs. or maybe he'll channel his inner jameis winston and do both!!

missouri's only 3 losses were at texas a&m (blowout), at alabama (blowout), and at south carolina (scored a go-ahead td with 1:10 left, then gave up the winning td with 15 seconds left).

the tigers' ground game is... meh. noel is their leading rusher and averages a respectable 5.1 yards/carry. carroll, who gets nearly as many carries, only averaged 4.4. iowa wasn't as strong as usual against the run this year, allowing 3.8 yds/carry (35th in the country).

brady cook had another solid year, completing 63.3% of his passes, averaging 7.8 yards/att, with 9 TDs and only 2 INTs. iowa was 17th in the country, only allowing 6.1 yards/att, but that was against big 10 offenses.

iowa's kicker is very reliable. he made 15 of 15 inside 50 yards (including 9-9 under 30 yards. because of course iowa kicked 9 fgs under 30 yards). missouri's kicker... quite the enigma. he was 17 of 18 under 40 yards and 4 of 7 from 50+. but... he was just 1-of-7 between 40-49.

iowa is 10th in the country in turnover margin (+.9/game), but missouri is 25th (+.5).

as you'd expect, iowa does not beat themselves with penalties. they are 2nd in the country with only 26.5 penalty yards/game. missouri is 62nd, picking up 50.4 yards/game.

when i first saw the line a few weeks ago, mizzou was -3.5. it has crossed the magic number, down to 2.5.

sullivan feels like such a huge wildcard. i think iowa is going to have to throw to loosen up the d. missouri only picked off 6 passes all year.

i keep going back and forth on this one. if i was a little smarter (and/or more disciplined), i'd stay off it. but the last stat i just looked at kinda swayed me... missouri is 4th in the country in 3rd down defense, only allowing conversions 28.6% of the time. iowa usually relies on long drives, and that looks like it will prove to be difficult. iowa converts on 3rd down 40% (61st in the country), but were only successful 26.5% of the time their last 3 games. ok, 2 1/2 of those games were with stratton at qb, but, still... they were against UCLA, maryland, and nebraska (123rd, 78th, and 32nd in 3rd down conversions defensively).

missouri -2.5 2X

i have a weird feeling this game goes over, but not enough to pull the trigger yet.
 

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Here are three thoughts on the Hawkeyes:

1. After the Iowa defense played their absolute worst game in three or four seasons against Michigan State (10/19), the defense then throttled Northwestern the next week (10/26), and then here is a quote of my post before the Wisconsin game (11/2): "The Iowa defense responded in a fashion I expected last week. Then on the first scramble by new Hawkeye QB Brendan Sullivan, I immediately sent a text to the handful of my closest Hawkeye friends , “Designed QB run is suddenly a new toy”. And Iowa wasted no time exploiting said toy. While Wisconsin and their 85th ranked run defense will have had a week to prepare for this new development, I think the immediate advantage really, really, lies with the possibilities a shifty QB opens up for new OC Tim Lester and an offense sorely lacking weapons in the passing game for several years." Then, as Smitty observed, Iowa thrashed their huge rival Wisconsin while throwing only 10 passes, but the mobile QB was a big reason. Then Sullivan was not nearly as successful with his running against a hard fighting UCLA defense (11/8), and then Sullivan went out with his ankle injury, and Iowa lost. Bottom line IMO, there are many "possibilities a shifty QB opens up for new OC Tim Lester and an offense sorely lacking weapons in the passing game for several years."

2. The theme of my texts this weekend to the handful of my closest Hawkeye friends has been: "I'm still not seeing why I should be liking Iowa(+3) without Kaleb Johnson against a 9-3 SEC team that beat Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl last season."

3. I bet Missouri(-2') over Iowa. Go Hawks!

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Since you asked us iowa guys for some input, I can take a break from the slopes( family and I are in keystone, Colorado this week skiing) and weigh in with my 2 cents worth on this game.
Missouri -2.5 and the under 40.5 would be my plays, but I’m passing on a side and just playing the under.

Don’t see either offense generating much against the others defense, and Iowa missing Johnson is a bigger deal than Iowa is letting on.
Heard a rumor from a friend that’s close to the football program that Gennings Dunker, iowas starting right tackle is not playing today, but can’t find any confirmation one way or the other. He did miss the last two regular season games so you’d have to imagine he’s a bit rusty from the layoff even if he goes today.

Good luck in whatever you play today, Gents
 

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Since you asked us iowa guys for some input, I can take a break from the slopes( family and I are in keystone, Colorado this week skiing) and weigh in with my 2 cents worth on this game.
Missouri -2.5 and the under 40.5 would be my plays, but I’m passing on a side and just playing the under.

Don’t see either offense generating much against the others defense, and Iowa missing Johnson is a bigger deal than Iowa is letting on.
Heard a rumor from a friend that’s close to the football program that Gennings Dunker, iowas starting right tackle is not playing today, but can’t find any confirmation one way or the other. He did miss the last two regular season games so you’d have to imagine he’s a bit rusty from the layoff even if he goes today.

Good luck in whatever you play today, Gents
Would see you at the Springs Condo hot tub 4:30 PM if we were there….Stick with Schoolmarm if you are old like me. Those blacks are no fun anymore 🤣
 
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Enjoy the slopes. !!!! Good stuff
Thanks, slum. Got here on the 27th and have been tearing it up since. I have a fearless 15 year old son who I had to ski down a couple runs that this old man wanted no part of to make sure he was able to ski those runs safely. Got 6 inches of fresh powder last night, so I’ll make a few runs before my Hawkeyes take the field today. Nothing like fresh powder in the Rockies 👍
 
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Would see you at the Springs Condo hot tub 4:30 PM if we were there….Stick with Schoolmarm if you are old like me. Those blacks are no fun anymore 🤣
🤣🤣🤣

Funny you mentioned the blacks as I just commented about taking a couple runs down them with my 15 year old son to be sure he was respecting the mountain. Yeah, no thanks says this old man…🤣
We are in the slopeside condos— out the heated garage, two minute slide over to the lift and away we go…
Id stay here again. 👍
 
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Funny you mentioned the blacks as I just commented about taking a couple runs down them with my 15 year old son to be sure he was respecting the mountain. Yeah, no thanks says this old man…🤣
We are in the slopeside condos— out the heated garage, two minute slide over to the lift and away we go…
Id stay here again. 👍
Loved Keystone used to live in Colorado and ski all the areas. I never cared for the black diamonds, to tough on the knees and not as fun as the intermediate which are still steep in Colorado. Enjoy sounds awesome!
 

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gentlemen, thank you very much for the input. perfect example of what makes madjacks so great.

redsfan, that's awesome. sounds like a nice trip. i always wanted to ski out west, but never made it. and now, between my back and my knees, my skiing career is probably over. haven't gone in... at least 5 years. i was probably the last guy on the mountain with straight skis. figured i was skiing so infrequently, it didn't make sense to buy shaped skis.

tommy, you really threw me for a second with your comment about the blacks. and any non-skiers here are probably wondering where that comment came from. i went down a few blacks in my day, and my only objective was to survive. certainly wasn't pretty. the blacks out here usually have plenty of ice to deal with. there's one trail called beartrap at mount snow that is a short run, but looks like they parked a lot of volkswagons on the trail before it snowed. just pure moguls. watching good skiers go down it was a thing of beauty. and made my knees hurt.

so the line has now dropped to 2 at some places. that is definitely concerning. the total, however, has crept up half a point to 40.5. it's really hard to believe money is pouring in on the over for no reason. ok, i'm gonna add this and hope the game is tied at 20 at some point.

over (40.5) 3X. high-risk, high-reward qbs can lead to points for both teams. and, yes, i'm still bracing myself for a typical iowa game and telling myself "what the fuck were you thinking?"

while i typed that, the line dropped at DK to 1.5. shit. it sure ain't public money pouring in on the hawkeyes.
 
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gentlemen, thank you very much for the input. perfect example of what makes madjacks so great.

redsfan, that's awesome. sounds like a nice trip. i always wanted to ski out west, but never made it. and now, between my back and my knees, my skiing career is probably over. haven't gone in... at least 5 years. i was probably the last guy on the mountain with straight skis. figured i was skiing so infrequently, it didn't make sense to buy shaped skis.

tommy, you really threw me for a second with your comment about the blacks. and any non-skiers here are probably wondering where that comment came from. i went down a few blacks in my day, and my only objective was to survive. certainly wasn't pretty. the blacks out here usually have plenty of ice to deal with. there's one trail called beartrap at mount snow that is a short run, but looks like they parked a lot of volkswagons on the trail before it snowed. just pure moguls. watching good skiers go down it was a thing of beauty. and made my knees hurt.

so the line has now dropped to 2 at some places. that is definitely concerning. the total, however, has crept up half a point to 40.5. it's really hard to believe money is pouring in on the over for no reason. ok, i'm gonna add this and hope the game is tied at 20 at some point.

over (40.5) 3X. high-risk, high-reward qbs can lead to points for both teams. and, yes, i'm still bracing myself for a typical iowa game and telling myself "what the fuck were you thinking?"

while i typed that, the line dropped at DK to 1.5. shit. it sure ain't public money pouring in on the hawkeyes.
This game is tormenting me Smitty! I'm on a 2-0 winning streak, don't want that winning feeling to end...
 

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This game is tormenting me Smitty! I'm on a 2-0 winning streak, don't want that winning feeling to end...
yeah, it's down to 1 now. feels inevitable that iowa is gonna win. at least the total is up to 41, so i got a decent line on that.

oh, i keep forgetting to make a very important point... if you had to pick one team to play a bowl game on a monday, it would absolutely be iowa, right? they really are the monday of football teams.
 

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yeah, it's down to 1 now. feels inevitable that iowa is gonna win. at least the total is up to 41, so i got a decent line on that.

oh, i keep forgetting to make a very important point... if you had to pick one team to play a bowl game on a monday, it would absolutely be iowa, right? they really are the monday of football teams.
But not Monday night!! I don't think peeps at there know more then you and others here, no matter how it turns. I'm looking for live opps to pounce on.
 

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just watched the first half. yeah, pretty much exactly how everyone expected it to go.
the naked gun facepalm GIF


can't wait to see if they make me sweat the over. probably not, because i just threw a unit on under 54.5.
 

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just watched the first half. yeah, pretty much exactly how everyone expected it to go.
the naked gun facepalm GIF


can't wait to see if they make me sweat the over. probably not, because i just threw a unit on under 54.5.
Smash mouth football!
 
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