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Celtics will beat the Indiana Pacers in Round 1. Boston is already up 1-0.

$10,012 to win $5,000 Boston Celtics beat Indiana Pacers for the Series.

$6,000 to win $3,000 (OLY)
$4,012 to win $2,000 (Pinny)


This is my biggest NBA wager ever and if I lose it def. will put a dent into my account, although not a huge dent. Let me explain why I am so confident.

Celtics vs Pacers

Obviously Celtics are up 1-0 so I have that advantage but I paid to the price in laying -203. Doesn't bother me. Hopefully Celtics win game 2 so then it justifies me laying -203.

First of all, this series reminds me of the NBA Championship series last year between Pistons/Lakers. Celtics are a younger more athletic team and the Pacers are an older injured team missing one of their best players and their starting PG.

This is huge advantage for Celtics. They are deep team and they are playing extremely well right now. Let me talk about the obvious.

Pacers are without starter Artest. This hurts. Artest is solid offensively and is great defensively. Paul Pierce now doesn't have to be guarded by Artest. This makes Pierce game a lot easier AND helps the surrounding Celtic players.

PG Tinsley for Pacers is out. Not having your starting PG would hurt ANY team in the NBA. On top of Artest being out, Tinsely is out as well. Why does this hurt Pacers so much? GARY PAYTON! Payton is not solid on defense anymore and Tinsely is able to blow by him and create havoc. No Tinsely, No Payton liability. Starting Pacer PG is Johnson and he can't take Payton off the dribble. Now Tinsely is on the playoff roster but has not played in last 29 games and I doubt we see him in this series. Even if he does come back, he sure as hell will be rusty and not 100%. All in all, Tinsely is a great PG and Pacers relied heavily on him.

Now lets talk about the Pacers BEST player. J. Oneal. He struggled badly in game 1. Now I expect him to play better the rest of the series BUT their is chance he doesn't. He is playing hurt with bad shoulder and that could really be affecting him. Another thing, Oneal often settles for outside shots instead of taking it to the rim. Celtics will live with that ALL day. Oneal also has trouble on the defensive end in this series guarding the perimeter Celtic players.

Pacer injuries

F. Jones playing with hurt finger.
A. Croshere is playing hurt.
J. O'Neal playing with hurt shoulder.
J. Foster playing hurt.
David Harrison OUT.
Ron Artest OUT.
Jonathan Bender OUT.

This is a BANGED up team and on top of that missing 2 of their starters. (Artest and Tinsely)
No question this team has heart, as they played their way into the playoffs but this is as far as they will go. Unfortunately they won't give up and hand Boston the series but they just won't be able to beat Boston 4 games after being down 0-1.

Lastly, lets talk about Reggie Miller. He played great this season and carried Indiana on his back. His age is finally catching up to him and he will struggle in this series. He might have 1 breakout game but for Pacers to beat Boston, they need Miller to carry them. Pacers only have 3 guys who can potentially score big. Miller, Jackson, or Oneal. IMO, Pacers need all 3 playing great to beat Celtics. Jackson came up big in game 1 but Pacers got blown out. I wouldn't consider Jackson a great consistent player. He is solid but that as far I would go. Miller is old. Oneal is playing hurt. Tough job for these 3 to carry the team without Artest and Tinsley. Lets not forget that Celtic guard T. Allen plays superb defense on Reggie Miller. Allen is athletic and Miller struggles against athletic defenders. Miller doesn't have an easy time scoring and overall the Celtic defense has turned it up a notch in the playoffs. This is a hungry and confident Celtic team. They said prior to game 1 they were going to turn up their defense and they did exactly that.

Since Oneal returned back to the Pacers after injury, the team has not been sharp. Pacers came into the playoffs losing 4 of their last 6 and if you look at a lot of their wins/losses it was against teams who WERE WITHOUT their best player. IMO, this Pacer team is not playing great ball. Game 1 they throw the ball to Oneal and everyone was standing around. This is a team not playing great ball, who is injured, who is missing 2 starters, and playing against a talented, athletic and deep team in Boston. Oh yeah, they already down 1-0 in series.

Take a look into last year. Pacers had Artest and an injured Tinsely playing. They still often struggled at the offensive end in the playoffs. They would go into serious scoring droubts. Since they had Artest, they were a very solid defensive club and could withstand the droubts. This years playoff team doesn't have Artest or Tinsely. They will struggle on offense even more because they don't have Tinsely or Artest. They will struggle MORE on defense because they don't have Artest. Artest could neutralize Pierce and he has some game on offense. But even with Artest, the Pacers struggled badly at times on the offensive end. Against Celtics this series they are playing a younger and much more athletic team. SPELLS TROUBLE!

I have barely talked about the Boston Celtics as I have so much ammo against the Pacers. But I really like the Celtics team as well. So not only do I dislike the current Pacer team, I am big supporter of the current Celtic team. This is a team I think has flown under the radar and is VERY undervalued.

Pierce, Walker, Payton, and Lafrentz. Thats 4 solid veterans with playoff experience. All 4 players have played well at the end of season and game 1 (except for Pierce in game 1) Those 4 solid veterans are surrounded by super athletic and talented young players. THIS HURTS THE PACERS! These young players are playing exceptional basketball. These backups almost beat the Nets when the Nets were in a do or die game. I won 2k on Nets ML in that game but these Celtic players made a believer out of me. I find no reason for these backup players to start playing poorly but I also don't expect them to play great either. But they should play well enough to win because they are so much more younger and athletic than the Pacers and right there is a consistent advantage Boston has over Indiana. Celtics don't need these young players to carry the team. They have Pierce, Walker, Payton, and Lafrentz but mainly Pierce to carry the team. Celtics blew out Pacers in game 1 with Pierce making his first FG in the 4th quarter! :eek:

Major advantage for Celtics is............

Pierce and Davis. Pacers have no answer to these guys on defense. Davis is prob. the best 6th man in the NBA and has played exceptional basketball the last 1-2 months of season. He is instant offense and playing with super confidence right now. Not good news for Pacers that a guy you have no answer too on defensive side of ball is playing exceptional basketball at the moment. Same with Pierce. He has played exceptional ball last 2 months of season AND he is a legit superstar in NBA. So the legit superstar for the Celtics has nobody on the Pacers defensive side of the ball that matches up well against him. Expect Pierce to have a great series and game 1 was just a fluke shooting night.

Celtics don't really have an answer for Oneal but like I said earlier Oneal often settles for outside shots and he has not played well as of late. Not to mention he is playing hurt. Like I said earlier, the Pacers have not played well since Oneal returned and if you look at most of the Pacer wins/losses of late they have come against teams who were missing KEY players.

Some key highlight points.

*Celtics are up 1-0 in series
*Pacers are an injured team
*Pacers missing 2 "key" starters
*Celtics have been playing "great" basketball
*Pacers are not playing great basketball
*Celtics are getting great bench play
*Celtics are younger and more athletic team
*Celtics are the more confident team
*Celtics create 2 major mismatches (Pierce/Davis)
*Pacers create only 1 major mismatch (Oneal)

I see this Celtics team not only winning this round but playing tough in round 2 as well. I think its a nice blend of (athletic) veterans and (super athletic) young players. Right now, everyone is playing well and that is so important coming into the playoffs. Often in playoffs in all sports its the team who is playing best basketball coming into the playoffs that win, not necessarily the better team. I am not sure Pacers were the better team coming into this series but I do know the Celtics are currently playing better basketball.

What more can you ask for? Celtics playing great and Pacers not looking great and they have many handicaps to overcome. I don't see how the Celtics can allow the Pacers to win this series and even if it goes 7 games, I get game 7 @ Boston. This is not Indiana's year (for multiple reasons) and they should NOT win this series against Boston already down 1 game. I liked Boston prior to the series starting and my only question mark was how the young players would respond in an actual playoff game. I got my answer!

In addition to everything I just typed, history tells us that the game 1 winner in a 7 game series wins about 80% of the time! :toast:

All in all, I am willing to lose 10k on this wager because I see so many angles in my favor. I will be surprised (and sad :() if Indiana beats Boston 4 times in the next 6 games. Very tough task ahead for Indiana. I am betting they can't do it. Tonight is do or die game for them and I still think Boston wins the series if they lose tonight. But lets not make me sweat it out and Boston should go up 2-0 in the series. I would not be surprised if Boston sweeps Indiana.

GO CELTICS! :thumb:
 
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RexBudler

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thats alot of money to put on a team that isnt that good IMO , but def good luck to you none the less, you seem to do well with your big plays
 

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yea especially with a 1-0 advantage looks good...but remember how many teams in the past were killed with injuries that did not force the player to "not play" per se, and then fed off the leadership of a proven veteran like Reggie Miller to go on and shock teams. Just my opinion. GL
 

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Nice lengthy post,but the #1 reason for this play was the game 1 blowout we all saw.The series is still a coin toss,they don't end them after game 1 blowouts.I hope that what you think you saw in that game continues throughout the series,and that you win your bet.However,you yourself admitted a loss here would "put a dent" in your bankroll,why take the risk.You may have a winning play,and even be a winning player,who knows,but unloading on periodic big plays,if a person loses,negates far too many hard earned winners for one big adrenaline rush and a post at madjacks.You worked hard to build up that bankroll.Just a word to the wiseguy.
 

Scott4USC

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thats alot of money to put on a team that isnt that good IMO

Why do you think Boston isn't that good?

Boston in April went 7-2 not counting the last 2 games where Boston sat out their starters. The 2 losses came against playoff teams.

Boston in March went 9-5

Boston in Feb. went 8-4

Last 2 months of season Boston went 16-7. The hottest team since the All Star break has been the Denver Nuggets. Boston has only lost 3 more games than Denver in the final 2 months of the season. (not counting last 2 games of the year) Denver just beat Spurs in game 1. Gives some credence to teams playing great basketball to end the year going into the playoffs.

Boston is 18-7 since Walker joined the Celtics. Earlier in the season the Celtics struggled badly because they were/and still are a young inexperienced team. First 2 months of season they lost 16 games. Last 2 months of season they lost only 7 games. After 2 months they started playing "better" basketball and after acquiring Walker Boston has been playing "great" basketball. Walker has been great addition and the young/inexperienced players have been productive after their initial learning curve.

Boston isn't as good as Spurs/Suns/Pistons/Heat but right now they are playing the Pacers. So the question is, how good do you think this "current" Pacer squad is vs this "current" Boston squad.

IMO Boston is the better team and is the team playing better basketball. Do you agree? 2nd, why do you think this Boston team isn't good?


edludes thanks for advice and you are right. If I lose this it wipes out every big winning play I had this month and then some. So you got a point but I really love this bet and going big on it. I think its worth it even if it loses. If Boston loses, then all I have to do is read my post again and see why I laid that much. Can't win em all but thats why I don't make HUGE bets on daily basis. Hopefully Boston wins and I can slap myself on the back.
 
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Good luck Scott......I personally love the play. Love the fact that you have done your homework, as always. We have disagreed in the past about your USC views, but I must say i respect your dilligence. With the exception of the Stewart Cink play (LOL....j/k)

Good luck and if you are making money on this, I will be too, so lets get em!
 

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I still see the Celts winning this series. All you need is a W in one of the next 2 games to get back the homecourt edge.
 

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I hope you are right Cie Grant. :)

THAT GAME SUCKED!

:cursin: :cursin: :cursin:

Pacers start game RED HOT, I think made 7 of their first 8 shots and few of them treys, that sucked.

Reggie Miller couldn't miss in the 1h, that sucked

Then Pacers nail a 3 at end of first half to make it 5pt half time lead, that sucked

I can't believe the Celtics blew it. They had 5-6pt lead in the 4th and didn't add to it and eventually blew the lead. 3min. to go up by 6 at home you should get the win. Might end up costing me a lot of $$$. :(

Big difference in this game was Pacers shot 8-19 behind the arc vs Boston shooting 3-13.

2nd thing was R. Davis shot 1-8, Payton 2-7, and Lafrentz 0-4. I don't see that happening again especially with Davis. Making only 1 basket? Davis also had 6 freaking turnovers. Just a bad game for 3 Celtic players you count on. The 3 of them shot a combined 3-19 shooting. :scared That shouldn't happen again.

PACERS are toast if Miller is not on fire in any game rest of the series. Celtics clearly are the better team and should win both games AT Indiana. Miller can't carry this team every night and Oneal can't either. S. Jackson is off and on and Pacers have nobody else.

Miller on fire and Celtics playing average/below average = close game, Miller on fire and Celtics playing well = Celtics win, Miller not on his game = Celtic blowout, thats the way this series is going to go. I like my chances.

Doc Rivers should be fired if Celtics lose to this depleted Pacer squad. :mj07:
 
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Scott, you will have the opportunity to hedge
I would wait until game 3 is over though
depending on what line you can get
JMHO

Not much of a hedge if Indiana wins game 3........they would be up 2-1 with HCA and a good chance of going up 3-1.........

I hope I am wrong for you Scott but I think this is a huge loss for the Celts........they really could have stepped up and strangled the Pacers but with there horrendous late 3 minutes it not only game the Pacers new life but a lot of confidence. I took Boston tonight and I was really dissapointed with there defense in the last five minutes........and lets also not forget the Doc Rivers factor.......he sure could'nt seem to win a series in Orlando.......
 

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I grabbed Boston for the series at +105 just now. I think they win this. Who cares about home court advantage. You have to be able to win on either floor to win a series.
 

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You are right Boston dropped the ball. Should have won game 2 andup 2-0. Thats why I bet them -200. I get f*****.

Think about it. Pacers needed a flawless start (which they got 7-8 shooting) and Miller playing a SUPERB playoff game (which they got) and they still only beat Celtics by 3pts. Davis shot 1-8 and that aint gonna happen again especially when Pacers have nobody who matches up well against him.

Game 3 will be a telling sign. I don't think Miller can play at that high level throughout the series and even if he does, we know that the Pacers still only have a 50/50 chance at winning with Miller at high level.

Pierce and Walker played great but rest of Celtics had bad days. They only lost by 3pts. Screw Walker for missing 2 layups at end, and screw A. Johnson making 2 HUGE shot at end. Like thats gonna happen again. :mj07:

Tupac said:
I grabbed Boston for the series at +105 just now. I think they win this. Who cares about home court advantage. You have to be able to win on either floor to win a series.

GOOD LUCK and you know I am rooting for you to win it. I took the risk at -200 because if Celtics won game 2, no way Indiana wins the series winning 4 of the next 5.

Home court doesn't mean a whole lot. Rockets won 2 on road. Denver won one at SA. Kings almost beat Sonics on road despite Bibby having his worst shooting night ever. Washington Wizards almost beat Bulls on road despite there 2 stars shooting poorly.

If playing at Indiana is huge factor, then all the Pacer injuries and no artest/Tinsley evens it out. :)

The Celtics should NOT lose 4 games to this depleted Pacer squad.

BTW, Doc Rivers holds large part of blame for the loss. He took out Raef Lafrentz and put in I think D. West. When Lafrentz went out the Pacers got a DUNK from Jackson and a layup from PG Johnson. That was 4 easy pts! :cursin:

Blame the horrible shooting with 3 min. left for Celts!
Blame Rivers for taking out Lafrentz!
Blame A. Johnson who made 2 HUGE shots at end! (one of them he travelled)
Blame Walker for missing 2 easy layups!
Blame Celtics blowing 6pt lead at home with 3min. left!

What a $hitty night for Celtics! I might pay for it too. :cursin: Despite all that and the HOT pacer shooting to start game, Celtics only lost by 3pts. Gives me a lot of encouragement but Celtics now need to have a 10pt lead with 3min. left to win! :)
 

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The team that wins game 1 wins series over 65%. Good luck
 

Scott4USC

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gsp said:
The team that wins game 1 wins series over 65%. Good luck

I respect your opinion and knowledge of NBA hoops. What is your take on this series and how it will play out? Thanks.
 

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Scott:

You will probably still win, Indiana are a poor side, but a previous poster in this thread is right: to lay this much money on a very average side is risking so much of your good work. The Celtics are NOT a very good team, extremely erratic and very unpredictable. I've seen them play the Knicks a couple of times this season and struggle badly.....and that's the Knicks for God's sake.

Good luck, anyway.
 

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Huge coaching mismatch negates any talent advantage Boston might have.
 

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Scott,
Boston is now even money to win the series, wouldnt you pound them even more now? One game cant make that big of a difference can it?
 

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hell he already has 10K on it, how much more pounding can John Henry do w/o his arm coming outta socket? :scared:
 
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