My take on US foreign policy re: Russia/Ukraine

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Sell your, "I don't like him" somewhere else. That's a crock of shit.

You saying something about Trump that isn't flattering every tenth paragraph in an attempt to appear "worldly" isn't working.
 

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Sell your, "I don't like him" somewhere else. That's a crock of shit.

You saying something about Trump that isn't flattering every tenth paragraph in an attempt to appear "worldly" isn't working.
Nothing to sell. The reality is couldn’t stand him when he was on a reality show saying you’re fired. And then, the birther movement happened. And I couldn’t believe how divisive and unnecessary that movement was. I don’t know if you call or not, but DJ T was right in the middle of that. I thought he was complete gas bag and schmuck.

Then I voted against him in the 2016 primary. I voted third-party in the 2016 general election because no way I would vote shrillary or the birther dufus.

He was much better in his first term than I anticipated. I did vote for him against Biden in the general in 2020.

I blamed Trump for 2018 midterm losses, 2020 loss to Joe Biden, and 2022 midterms.

For this election, i labeled him the most selfish prick on the planet for running again, knowing it was going to blow up the Republican primary and thinking it was going to cost us yet another presidential election

I supported and donated to DeSantis in the primary. Of course, I voted for Trump in the 24 general.

As I indicated to anyone who I spoke with about this before this election, and I’m sure I probably mentioned it pre-election on here, if he lost this election, he would’ve been one of the best biggest political failures in the history of the republican party.

But yes, I love him lol
 

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aside from pointing fingers/speculation... the question I ask myself i

... why would the leader of a country come to US with white house live coverage with intentions of causing chaos.
 

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aside from pointing fingers/speculation... the question I ask myself i

... why would the leader of a country come to US with white house live coverage with intentions of causing chaos.
Because he didn’t. Trump and vance tagged team him. Why didn’t you wear a suit, you are disrespectful of this office. (Hint it’s because his country is at war) I do believe if you watch the news you have seen musk running around the oval office in a t-shirt on many occasions.
Not to mention trump and musk are perfect examples for the Christian coalition. Trump has 5 children by 3 different women, and musk has 14 children by 4 different women. The last 2 a few weeks apart by 2 different women. What wonderful people..
 
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Because he didn’t. Trump and vance tagged team him. Why didn’t you wear a suit, you are disrespectful of this office. (Hint it’s because his country is at war) I do believe if you watch the news you have seen musk running around the oval office in a t-shirt on many occasions.
Not to mention trump and musk are perfect examples for the Christian coalition. Trump has 5 children by 3 different women, and musk has 14 children by 4 different women. The last 2 a few weeks apart by 2 different women. What wonderful people..
Whether you like it or not, the American public approve of the direction djt is taking to resolve this Russian Ukraine war. Trump ran on a platform of settling this war. That is what’s happening now. Here are the numbers for you.

 
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We have a very weak President. He proved that on Friday. He proved it with his getting rolled by Mexico and Canada in tariff negotiations. He's all talk, and everyone knows it.....but the cult members.

Trump is as weak as they come, yes Canada and Mexico completely rolled him, just bent him over and gave it to him good. Trump is a giant baby and a complete fucking idiot, thanks to him America is not only weak but a giant puppet. Putin owns his ass and the wacko Musk runs the country.

It doesn't get any weaker than that.


And yes EVERYBODY outside of America (except Russia and North Korea) knows Trump is a fucking clown and a loser, he can be manipulated in under 10 seconds and will give anybody what he/she wants, all you gotta say is "Trump you are the best", and then you get whatever the fuck you want.
 

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Why didn’t you wear a suit, you are disrespectful of this office. (Hint it’s because his country is at war)

Don't worry the war will be over soon, and of course it will be because of Trump and his amazing negotiation skills :ROFLMAO:


And you can rest assured the cult members like Cie will say "See told ya, Trump ended the war":ROFLMAO:
 
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And you can rest assured the cult members like Cie will say "See told ya, Trump ended the war":ROFLMAO:

Sorry my bad I was wrong......Cie (Revolutionary Intentions) hates Trump, he is not a member of the cult.


But yes wait for it......if war in Ukraine ends, he'll say "Trump negotiated a Peace Deal, the war would have never have ended without Trump".....just wait for it.:kurby
 

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the moment he lost the 2020 election, border crossings started to ramp up. Strong as in the moment he won this last election two months before taking office, border crossings started to slow down. Strng as in the only potus Putin didn’t test in the last 2 decades. Trump is more feared than Biden, Obama or W.

Even this DeSantis supporter in the primary can admit that.
so you consider trump a strong president because... border crossings? seriously? do you think he personally stands at the border and fights off illegals?

and it's hilarious that you think trump is feared. i mean, in the same way people would fear a toddler if he had the nuclear codes, sure.

also hilarious that you continue with the ridiculous line that putin has tested every president but trump. everybody not in the cult understands that putin doesn't need to test his puppet.
 

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aside from pointing fingers/speculation... the question I ask myself i

... why would the leader of a country come to US with white house live coverage with intentions of causing chaos.
this is exactly the right question you SHOULD ask yourself.

and the obvious answer... he didn't. he went to the white house thinking he was going to sign the discussed deal.

zelenskyy is well aware of how critical US support is to Ukraine. he was clearly attacked, starting with vance, who has said he doesn't give a fuck about what happens to Ukraine.

meanwhile, trump just threw gas on the fire and chirped about how "this is going to make great TV." yup, the man cie considers a strong president, in that moment, was thinking about how it would play on TV.
 
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and it's hilarious that you think trump is feared. i mean, in the same way people would fear a toddler if he had the nuclear codes, sure.

also hilarious that you continue with the ridiculous line that putin has tested every president but trump. everybody not in the cult understands that putin doesn't need to test his puppet.

Trump is the biggest pushover in the history of Politics, he's a coward little bitch who everybody outside of America laughs at. He's a clown and a loser and is as weak as they come.

And yes....Putin owns his ass.
 

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Trump is the biggest pushover in the history of Politics, he's a coward little bitch who everybody outside of America laughs at. He's a clown and a loser and is as weak as they come.

And yes....Putin owns his ass.
it continues to blow my mind that ANYBODY thinks he is some sort of strong leader. it's so clear that anybody who flatters him... he suddenly considers a genius.
 
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Because he didn’t. Trump and vance tagged team him. Why didn’t you wear a suit, you are disrespectful of this office. (Hint it’s because his country is at war) I do believe if you watch the news you have seen musk running around the oval office in a t-shirt on many occasions.
Not to mention trump and musk are perfect examples for the Christian coalition. Trump has 5 children by 3 different women, and musk has 14 children by 4 different women. The last 2 a few weeks apart by 2 different women. What wonderful people..
read your answer which doesn't address my question.
..." why would the leader of a country come to US with white house live coverage with intentions of causing chaos."?


But I have to admit I am the stupid one for even posing question here thinking I would get anything other than T shirts..children and wives.
But I will leave you with a bit of info. He will agree to U.S. demands.

Why (per national news services ) He was outsmarted as the people there did not turn against U.S. as he was hoping but rather demanding his resignation instead. It's a game of chess "balls"
 

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Wayne, the "chaos" started ~ 45 or 50 minutes into that discussion. JD Vance tried pulling some shit and Zelenskyy stood up for himself.
You would think as much as Trump has shown that he sides with Russia, Wayne would relent a little. We have a lot of Russian sympathizers around here.
 
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read your answer which doesn't address my question.
..." why would the leader of a country come to US with white house live coverage with intentions of causing chaos."?


But I have to admit I am the stupid one for even posing question here thinking I would get anything other than T shirts..children and wives.
But I will leave you with a bit of info. He will agree to U.S. demands.

Why (per national news services ) He was outsmarted as the people there did not turn against U.S. as he was hoping but rather demanding his resignation instead. It's a game of chess "balls"
did you read his response? he answered your question with his first sentence - "he didn't."

sooo... you got an answer, didn't like that answer, and then pretended you didn't receive an answer. are you running for office as a republican?

just curious... who exactly "outsmarted" zelenskyy? nobody "won" that exchange, except for russia. you probably didn't see this on fox news, but russian state media was CELEBRATING after that took place. they could not have been happier with what transpired.

and who the hell is demanding zelenskyy's resignation? seriously, where do you get your news? do you think ukranians would be fighting and dying for their country for 3 years if they disliked zelenskyy that much? this is probably why trump hates him so much... because zelenskyy actually IS a strong leader. trump can only pretend to be one.
 
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