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5 dimes is telling me this wager is a Loser
had Kent St +3.5 for the 1st 10 mins of 2nd half.

Taken from ESPN
2nd Half Summary
TIME KENT STATE SCORE TOLEDO
20:00 Jump Ball won by Kent State 36-32
19:33 Devareaux Manley missed Jumper. 36-32
19:33 36-32 Justin Drummond Defensive Rebound.
19:24 36-32 Justin Drummond missed Jumper.
19:24 Khaliq Spicer Defensive Rebound. 36-32
19:09 36-32 Foul on Nathan Boothe.
19:09 Chris Ortiz made Free Throw. 37-32
19:09 Chris Ortiz made Free Throw. 38-32
18:50 38-32 Justin Drummond missed Three Point Jumper.
18:50 Devareaux Manley Defensive Rebound. 38-32
18:20 Marquiez Lawrence missed Layup. 38-32
18:20 38-32 Nathan Boothe Defensive Rebound.
18:08 38-32 Julius Brown missed Three Point Jumper.
18:08 Marquiez Lawrence Defensive Rebound. 38-32
17:42 Derek Jackson missed Layup. 38-32
17:42 38-32 Nathan Boothe Defensive Rebound.
17:33 38-34 Justin Drummond made Layup. Assisted by Nathan Boothe.
17:21 Devareaux Manley missed Three Point Jumper. 38-34
17:21 Khaliq Spicer Offensive Rebound. 38-34
17:10 Devareaux Manley made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Derek Jackson. 41-34
16:53 Foul on Chris Ortiz. 41-34
16:53 41-35 Nathan Boothe made Free Throw.
16:53 41-36 Nathan Boothe made Free Throw.
16:34 Kris Brewer missed Jumper. 41-36
16:34 41-36 Nathan Boothe Block.
16:34 Kent State Offensive Rebound. 41-36
16:23 Kent State Timeout
16:16 Derek Jackson Turnover. 41-36
16:16 41-36 Justin Drummond Steal.
15:55 41-36 Nathan Boothe missed Layup.
15:55 Devareaux Manley Defensive Rebound. 41-36
15:20 Devareaux Manley missed Three Point Jumper. 41-36
15:20 41-36 Toledo Defensive Rebound.
15:16 Official TV Timeout
14:58 Foul on Raasean Davis. 41-36
14:45 Foul on Devareaux Manley. 41-36
14:45 41-37 Jordan Lauf made Free Throw.
14:45 41-37 Jordan Lauf missed Free Throw.
14:45 Khaliq Spicer Defensive Rebound. 41-37
14:34 41-37 Foul on Jonathan Williams.
14:24 41-37 Foul on Jordan Lauf.
14:16 Derek Jackson missed Three Point Jumper. 41-37
14:16 41-37 Justin Drummond Defensive Rebound.
14:07 41-37 Julius Brown missed Layup.
14:07 41-37 Justin Drummond Offensive Rebound.
14:01 Foul on Devareaux Manley. 41-37
14:01 41-38 Justin Drummond made Free Throw.
14:01 41-39 Justin Drummond made Free Throw.
13:54 Kris Brewer made Three Point Jumper. 44-39
13:29 Foul on Gary Akbar. 44-39
13:29 44-40 Justin Drummond made Free Throw.
13:29 44-41 Justin Drummond made Free Throw.
12:58 Kris Brewer missed Three Point Jumper. 44-41
12:58 44-41 Nathan Boothe Defensive Rebound.
12:51 Foul on Khaliq Spicer. 44-41
12:40 44-41 Jonathan Williams missed Three Point Jumper.
12:40 Marquiez Lawrence Defensive Rebound. 44-41
12:28 Craig Brown Turnover. 44-41
12:28 44-41 Nathan Boothe Steal.
12:21 44-43 Jonathan Williams made Layup. Assisted by Nathan Boothe.
11:52 Kris Brewer made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Craig Brown. 47-43
11:26 47-43 Julius Brown missed Jumper.
11:26 Khaliq Spicer Defensive Rebound. 47-43
10:58 Craig Brown Turnover. 47-43
10:58 47-43 Julius Brown Steal.
10:51 47-46 Nathan Boothe made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Julius Brown.
10:41 Kent State Timeout
10:32 Chris Ortiz made Layup. Assisted by Marquiez Lawrence. 49-46
10:11 49-48 Zach Garber made Layup. Assisted by Julius Brown.
9:48 Chris Ortiz missed Jumper. 49-48
9:48 49-48 Toledo Defensive Rebound.
9:41 Official TV Timeout
9:37 49-48 Zach Garber Turnover.
9:37 Devareaux Manley Steal.
 
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They are telling me it was 48-48 at 10 min mark according to " the video ". Sounds like shit.
 
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Just watched it and this is bizarre


I HAVE KENT ST +3.5 ( 2nd H 1st 10 mins )

2nd hald starts Kent St 36-32

@11:46 Kent St hits a 3 ( scoreboard reads 47-43 ) ref signals 2

@ 10:48 scoreboard changes to 46-43

@ 10:42 Toledo hit 3 ( score 46-46 )

@ 10:27 Kent st scores ( 48-46)

@ 10:08 tol scores ( 48-48 )

@ 9:41 they go to commercial

come back from commercial and score is kent st 49-48

@ 9:27 announcers reference the scoring change to the 3 pointer

5dimes tells me its still a loser



if this was $30 bet im not arguing anymore but is a 1K swing
 
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Their argument is probably that at the 10 minute mark the score was tied at 48. The scoring change came after the 10 minute mark. Flimsy, but they make the rules.
 

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Their argument is probably that at the 10 minute mark the score was tied at 48. The scoring change came after the 10 minute mark. Flimsy, but they make the rules.

This would end my relationship with any book that claimed this reason.I have no dog in the fight but I signed up with them and within 24 hours I received 3 different calls from 3 different 'Vinnies" offering me his lock of they year .I'm not accusing just saying it seemed like they sold my info. Hopefully they will make this right.
 

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Thats what they are claiming, they dont care about the score change after the timeout.
I have to wait till this afternoon to discuss my matter with any higher ups.Absolutly ridiculous:0002
 
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THEY MUST BE USING THE "DAY OF GAME" TYPE RULING.....HELL THIS WASN'T THE "DAY OF GAME" IT WAS THE "MINUTES OF GAME"....GOOD LUCK
 

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And the ruling is................................. BET is a LOSS

they will never see another dime of my money
 

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What happened

What happened

There was confusion on whether or not a shot was a 3 pointer.

I do believe I would ask for Jack to get involved; This is a very bad ruling because the shot in question happened well before the 10 minute mark.
 

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at the 11:50 mark Kent St shot a 3. The announcers and clock credited him a 3 , ref signaled a 2. A minute later during play the score changes. Then there is a timeout at the 9:40 mark, after the timeout the scoreboard changed and the announcers give credit back to the made 3 that was ruled a 2.

Win by the hook or lose by it. :facepalm:
 
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bad beat..........wonder what would happen if it was end of game. Not often, but sometimes those decisions are reviewed during a commercial break and changed.
 

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This ticket has been graded as loss, the points scored in 2nd Half period were:
Kent State (1st 10 min) - 12 Toledo (1st 10 min) - 16
Toledo (1st 10 min) won the period by -4

Game: Kent State at Toledo. There was an official scoring change, it was made at 09:41, and this is NOT to be taken in consideration as per our rules.

Please follow this link to find the rules in regards: Basketball Wagering
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NCAA first and next 10-minute results are determined from digital recordings of television broadcasts. The ball must be completely through the cylinder and net before 9:59 remaining for a basket to be official in the first 10 minutes of a half. ESPN.com, Yahoo.com, CBSsportsline.com, or any other play-by-play log of the game will not be used or considered for claims.
Official scoring changes made after the six or ten minute mark will not count towards scores for grading purposes. Correction of errors made on television broadcast score displays will be applied when the score actually occurred.
Due to the fact that our rules are clearly stated in our web site, customers may not argue ignorance in this matter, this wager remains as a loss.

Hope this helps you!

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