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fletch

hope you get better. thank God you hit your shoulder and not your head.

had a nasty accident a few years ago and banged up my head (vertebraes included) real bad. got some therapy, still comes back to haunt me some, but have learned to live with it.

hopefully, it will all clear up in a week or so. relax.


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Fletch you sound like some folks I know that were in a car reck. Need you to come around fast. I can not handle M J's offensive line with out you. Take care.
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Fleetch,

I either misread or misunderstood your story when I made my reply.

Only now... a day later do I understand that you fell off the damned ladder! Geeezzz
I was just tired last night. But I sure missed the whole point of your story.

You were a lot more injured than I originally thought. For some reason after reading or scanning... the stream of info in this thread last night I THOUGHT that you hurt yourself when you stepped off the ladder onto the ground... NOT WHEN you fell off the ladder from the friggin' roof level!

Geeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz

I feel like a total dumbass.

My appologies.

Get Well Soon!

Sincerely,

Dr. AzRusty
Nope.. I don't do surgery (not even stitches)
And nope... don't do or dispense drugs!
 

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Azrusty,

your advice sounded fine to me. Fletch's injuries still sound soft tissue in nature to me (even though he's seeing an orthopod).

I work closeley with the chiropractor in my town, we have a similar philosophy. If he thinks someone needs meds, he'll refer them to me, and if I think someone needs a manipulation, and they "buy in", I'll send 'em his way. I know sometimes our two professions don't see eye to eye but I don't understand the problem, except for the few extremists who shouldn't be in either profession.

Fletch's picks still seem sound also. Another solid night on the way... When we see a board of four or five dogs at +150 or so, then it'll be time for the cranial CT scan, and cut back the drugs
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Also Fletch, so us medical guys don't get too confused...next time...don't say "did something to my back" when you really mean
"I fell off the roof and was almost torn in half..."

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he said today they will have to wait till the swelling goes down and check mon again but gave me that dalotten (spelling is wrong)again, i am a happy camper right now but i hurt bad when i woke up,my whole back is purple,yellow green and blue.have to sit in this chair and sleep in a recliner can't lay down ,cant think much either but its better then the pain,as long as i dont take the valium i am fine when i mix it its lights out for awhile.i cant talk everyting comes out like bugs bunny,but thanks for your input.
 

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thats it,hell i can't spell when i'm stight now is worse,when the me the sot of that it was 20 sec. and i felt nothing but floating felling,the pills are not quite as fast but seem to work the same,starting to nod and see double ,out for thr night .
 

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Fletch-- I'm a doctor if you want to ask me any questions. I still have your phone # in my book. If you want I will give you a call.
I'll check back on this board later to look for your reply.
 

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thanks i will get with you after my mri monday ,i'm just buzzed out and really have a hard time staying awake i nap about every other how,but if i stop the meds i feel like i am being hung from my spine on a meat hook.so i am just taking the meds just like he wrote it,still have some pain if i move aroud but not to bad,but when it starts to ware off which is about every 3-4 hours i know,getting use to the feeling its not going to change but only take the valium at night or when i start to get these musclespasm,they feel like a knot that is ready to burst.thanks to all of the dr's and the pharmacist that have helped and all my friends,i just hope i don't have to have surgury, will see a couple of different before i let that happen.
 

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Thanks for the support Ozzball...

Yes.... I agree with the route you have taken Fletcher. Was just a bit upset that I was spouting off when I really didn't understand what had happened.

10 Ft Fall From Roof + Multiple Lacerations =

Quick Trip To ER... _ Evaluation by Orthopedist + MRI

Yep... a pretty balanced equation!

I would never consider treating a patient who had a suspected fracture or Possible fracture by manipulation until fracture was ruled out by x-ray. Same goes for possible cord damage. DUH

Sincerely hope you are on the road to recovery! Sounds to me like you are doing what any reasonable person would do! Since you must have been totally out of it..

Let's all give a big hand for Jeri!

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Fletch my friend you need a story. This gal is looking for new carpeting. As she bends over to feal a sample. She passes some gas
(farts). Just as Mr Salesman walks up. She said to him how much for this style carpet. He said well if fealing it made you pass gas. The price will just make you shit.
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I do hope you feal better fast.
Get well cards by DJV made up with little or no thought.
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thanks djv,that made me smile,this may sound stupid but when you cant do the things you are use to even walk around,it tends to suck,i have a jell coushion so my ass doesnot hurt to much.havenot drove for a few days now cause i would end up killing someone and with jeri at work i'm stuck,now it makes me think about how bad it must be to be a shut in like some one that is older and cant,get around,that must be tuff kind of makes you think how lucky we are or at least it has me,shit the key board looks like it is moving back and forth. if wasnot for you guys and the site i would be going nuts,so thanks to all and jack,
i sometimes see things out of the corner of my eye like shadows then i look again and theres nothing there.
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I understand some strong stuff they have you on. Keep hanging in there It will be better.
 

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Bluegrass!
It appears you're having some slight hallucinations from the Percocet you are taking. This too is also common for people with extremely low tolerances concerning opiates or for people that are taking too much medication in a shortened length of time.

If it's possible, you probably should try and increase your length of time between doses. Your bottle probably says take 1 tablet every 4-6 hrs. as needed for pain. If the pain has subsided somewhat, try and stretch your doses every 6-8 hrs. That's ONLY if the pain becomes manageable. If you find it to be too uncomfortable, then go back to your regular dosage.

What you probably do not know is the fact that opiates can cause severe addiction, so the quicker you abstain from taking the medication, the better off you'll be. You shouldn't have to worry about this, if you follow your doc's instructions. Most of the addiction problems stem from the fact that people overmedicate themselves, which in turn, causes a euphoric condition. Lots of folks continue to take the medication not for their pain, but for the affects the medication has on their state of mind. You remember the state of mind you were in yesterday? Some people pay top dollar to get themselves in that position. And, the more you take, the greater your tolerance will become. For some people that build up a resistance to the medication, they find themselves having to take higher and higher doses to produce that same feeling that only a few pills produced at first.

Pain management is a very complicated issue nowadays for especially physicians. They have to make the determination whether one of their patients continues to take the medication for legitimate pain issues, or they're still taking it because they're trying to produce that euphoric state of mind.

Two common medications to treat pain in certain individuals are hydrocodone and oxycodone. The Oxy classification of drugs is a stronger form of medication to treat pain. The common names found with this chemical makeup are Percocets and Percodans. Hydrocodone drug classifications include names such as Vicodin, Lorcet Plus, and Lortabs. If your pain is becoming less severe, you might want to tell your physician to switch you to some drug containing hydrocodone as its main ingredient. If you want to get away from the opiates altogether, then there are some new pain medications out there that claim to be non-addictive. I use the word claim because I've read cases where people have actually become addicted to the medication. A couple new ones are Ultram and Zanaflex and we've seen good results from many of our patients.

I will tell you one that you should try and stay away from is a drug called Oxycontin. This is a drug that is also made up of the chemical Oxycodone, but it comes in much much higher strengths. It ranges anywhere from 10mg - 80mg and they're coming out with a 120mg. The percocet you are taking has 7 1/2 milligrams of oxycodone. Can you imagine taking a pill that had 120 milligrams of oxycodone. It would probably kill you! Another difference is the fact that Oxycontin comes in a delayed release tablet which last up to 12 hours. The reason for the production of the higher strengths is mainly due to the fact that people's bodies have built up a resistance to the medication so they have to take higher and higher doses for their pain to subside. The drug's intention was to help cancer patients deal with the agonizing pain that is associated with the disease. People that have been inflicted with cancer consider it to be a miracle drug. They are able to still function in society although they have somewhat of a crippling condition. When the drug is not used for the proper purposes, it produces a high like none other they say. The heads have even found out that if you suck the enteric coating off the pill, they get an immediate rush like no other drug in the world! Some chop it up and snort it or shoot it up their arm. It's quite sickening and has become a major problem in numerous states. The street value for the drug runs about $1 dollar a milligram. So, a 120mg tablet, will cost ya $120 bucks.

I apologize for the length of this response, but I thought you might want to know some avenues you might want to take or not take! Good luck and you'll be on your feet in no time....

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i did what you said i am breaking them in half,still keeps the pain away,but not as cloudy and only taking the val when i start to get the knots,the seeing things is messed up + i have only slept like 5-6 hours in 3 days,i nod off sitting in the chair,i have that big brace that makes it hard to lay down so i am just in the recliner. its a buzz but not one that i like. thanks for the help have another mri om monday.
 
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