NEWSWEEK SCUMBAGS....

[smurphy]

Totally agree. It's simply being ignorant and unprofessional and putting EVERYONE at risk when someone unnecessarily perform's their job that poorly.

...That goes for prison guards as well as Newsweek editors. Our incompetence is at every level it seems.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Edward I think you and other legal beagles --Civil Liberties Union-Amnesty International--"International" Red Cross and your liberal media--might consider reading Geneva Conventions rules that specifically point out TERRORIST have NO RIGHTS under Geneva rules.

If you clowns all think they should have attorneys you all need to do some field work over there with these terrorist (prior) to their capture or maybe we they could use some more human shields

I like the attorney wanting to sue because Saddam was photoed in his underwear but could care less about the 100,000 of orphans he left homeless--of course no money in that-

 

[kosar]

Edward I think you and other legal beagles --Civil Liberties Union-Amnesty International--"International" Red Cross and your liberal media--might consider reading Geneva Conventions rules that specifically point out TERRORIST have NO RIGHTS under Geneva rules.

If you clowns all think they should have attorneys you all need to do some field work over there with these terrorist (prior) to their capture or maybe we they could use some more human shields

I like the attorney wanting to sue because Saddam was photoed in his underwear but could care less about the 100,000 of orphans he left homeless--of course no money in that-

I can buy some of that, but answer me this regarding Gitmo. Are we going to keep these people there indefinitely? Are we gonna try them in a court of law? Do we even have any decent evidence on most of them or were a lot of them in the wrong place (Afghanistan) at the wrong time(2002)?

We consider them POW's(and therefore covered under the Geneva Convention Wayne), I guess is the party line, so they don't get the normal due process. But when can this so called war on terror ever be declared finished? Never is the answer to that one.

So what's the plan for these people?

 

[smurphy]

DTB - from my perspectyive, it's not the rights of the prisoners that I care about. I don't care about their faith, I don't care about their treatment.

But it's like it is with cops when they arrest Rodney Kings. DO YOUR JOB. That's what what your paid to do. If you screw up, then you put the entire community, nation, or in this case - world at risk. If you can't arrest someone without beating them, guard someone without putting them in nude pyramids or destroying their religious voodoo (yes, I consider the Koran nothing more than dangerous voodoo), or if you write charged articles without fully checking the validity of the sources - then you shouldn't have those jobs. You are an incompetent danger to the rest of us WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

 

[djv]

We don't know how many don't belong there. They should if we are at war have chance to be found guilty of something or sent home. We must remember some of the folks might be there from the over excitement of few folks. Like the type that fabricated the Tillman story. As MC Cain said state our case and moved on. This coming from a former prisoner of war for over 4 years. We just can't keep speaking out of both sides of our mouth.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"If you can't arrest someone without beating them" Have you ever witnessed a person on crack or meth that did not want to do something--especially the size of Rodney King??? Amzing how many people remember a covicted felon being beaten after avading pursuit of police--and few remember innocent people being pulled out of their cars by rioters--selective memory

personally i feel sorry for those being pulled from their vehicles not the drug crazed felon.

 

[smurphy]

YOUR MISSING MY POINT. As a police officer, you know you will run into those situations. Your job is to arrest, not to beat the hell out of. Don't be a cop if you can't do your job properly. NO EXCEPTIONS.

By the way, the cops who beat him, were not even the ones who chased him. CHP chased him, risking their life. LAPD showed up after the fact and beat the hell out of him.

 

[smurphy]

AND AGAIN - I don't "feel sorry" for King, the prisoners or anybody. That's not my point! It's all about net result of incompetent performance by people with very important jobs.

 

[smurphy]

And of course I remember the Reggie Denny's being pulled from their cars. Hell, I was a courrier in So Cal in those days. I went to South Central every week. It could have been me! Of course the thugs that beat people deserved whatever punishment came their way. Not excusing that at all. Gimme a break - it's not the point I'm making.

But if you want to compare the 2, fine. Would Reggie Denny have beaten within an inch of his life if Coon and friends did their job regarding Rodney King? ...That's how important a policeman's job is. Their actions have an effect on what happens in the entire community. Do the job right and everyone's better off.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

ACLU's and 9th district court of appeals-Memorial Day commencements----

Battle to Tear Down a Tribute

Wednesday, June 01, 2005

By David Asman



The Mojave Desert (search) is not the kind of hard-scrapple place you'd expect to find the latest battle in the culture wars.

But that's exactly where the ACLU is battling with locals to tear down a cross that was erected as a tribute to World War I veterans.

In 1934, a tough old prospector named J. Riley Bembry (search) put up a steel cross on Sunrise Rock at a time when the Mojave Desert truly was God's country.

But in 1994, President Clinton declared the area around Sunrise Rock a federal reserve, and that's when the ACLU moved in. A former park ranger named Frank Buono (search) hooked up with the ACLU, demanding that the National Park Service tear down the cross. Mr. Buono says he's offended by seeing the cross, and since it's now on federal property, the feds should tear it down.

So far the courts have been agreeing with the ACLU, right up through the 9th Circuit Appeals Court. The ACLU has even managed to collect $63,000, because of a law that forces plaintiffs to pay legal fees in even partially successful civil rights cases.

And if the ACLU wins at Sunrise Rock, what's to stop them from going after the crosses at Arlington National Cemetery. Says one observer: "The courts will have a hard time devising a principle by which those thousands of crosses on federal land are not as unconstitutional as the one in the desert." Stay tuned.

 

[djv]

No one likes the ACLU. Well unless it's your cause then there alright. Like anything else.

 

[djv]

Pentagon admits to desecration of Koran. Still sad it had to come out. But looks like News Week was right.

 

[kosar]

Pentagon admits to desecration of Koran. Still sad it had to come out. But looks like News Week was right.

Yeah, just saw that. To *us* it's no big deal. But unless these idiots haven't been trained at all, they have to know that their stupid actions will cost lives, including our own. But of course, the media will be blamed.