nobody`s talking cunningham/adamek

[tonymontana]

Cunningham really has a quite a good chin he was not really hurt after the kds.

Adamek is a tough guy but he was in trouble in the 4 round no doubt.

True pick em fight. Looking forward to the rematch.

 

[crow]

Sorry for those who picked Cunningham; this was a pick them fight, not worth a big wager
Evans made me win 3 hund

 

[crow]

Adamek is a tough guy but he was in trouble in the 4 round no doubt.

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You've got to love the guy- no nonsense type- liked his interview

I knew he had a good chin + durable from the Briggs wars.
The higher weight was only going to add to it

One rd of this bout was worth the whole golden boy card 5 days ago

 

[Ghost Kid]

nice hit crow

Evan seems to have his groove back a bit !

I was large on Cunningham and I stand by my bet

I was wrong

it happens

the over hits for a good little getback

only bummer....I had 20 bucks on the DRAW at 25 to 1 !

:00x25 :00x25

 

[frank s.]

Bad combination; a light puncher/cement jaw opponent. It was exciting now and then though. I got punished also. We need to watch Adamek. He eats a lot of shots. A guy that can crack will be a different story.

 

[Romi]

Bad combination; a light puncher/cement jaw opponent. It was exciting now and then though. I got punished also. We need to watch Adamek. He eats a lot of shots. A guy that can crack will be a different story.

Can't say I was overly impressed by either guy. Adamek is a good tough fighter but as Dawson showed, he is beatable. He cerytainly makes for exciting fights though. Never thought I would say this but if Hop is thinking about moving up, that could be a winnable fight.

 

[Ghost Kid]

Overall I am disappointed in Cunningham

Hard to say that when I guy gives an effort like that (getting off the floor 3 times !)

but he fought the wrong fight....

after the first round I thought I was home free

starting in rnd 2 he totally gave up his reach advantage....he never jabbed...and he backed up to the ropes all night...

Adamek is not great, but he is ONE TOUGH S.O.B.
Jesus

still trying to figure out how Cunningham stood in there with G. Jones and Huck....had a pretty good beard before tonight

:mj07:

I haven't been able to gain any momentum at all for a few weeks...

a few small wins, a big loss...a few small wins...a big loss...sucks....

again, congrats Adamek guys...i really didn't think he could win this fight...

I would be hesitant to bet on either guy in a rematch

 

[Zerwas]

still trying to figure out how Cunningham stood in there with G. Jones and Huck....had a pretty good beard before tonight

I cant believe it actually, I was pretty confident that Cunningham would be able to take his shots...Jones and Huck are IMO better punchers and he easily stood up to their power.

Was is the layoff!?

I dont know....sorry for you guys who lost...Evan got it right...luckily I hit the decision prop!

I also had some money riding on a draw...but no matter how close a fight is, I cant hit those bets anymore...

 

[Kramden]

Adamek is very tough. But Cunningham deserves some credit. He recovered from being dropped and got his second win in the last quarter of the fight. And he NEVER stopped trying. He's got heart. But for the knockdowns he would have won. Adamek was a bit gassed at the end. You could reasonably argue that these are the top 200 pounders in the world. How about a unification between Guillermo Jones and Adamek.

 

[gardenweasel]

Adamek is very tough. But Cunningham deserves some credit. He recovered from being dropped and got his second win in the last quarter of the fight. And he NEVER stopped trying. He's got heart. But for the knockdowns he would have won. Adamek was a bit gassed at the end. You could reasonably argue that these are the top 200 pounders in the world. How about a unification between Guillermo Jones and Adamek.

good idea...and i wonder if dawson could carry that weight and still be as fast....

that might be a stretch...

 

[Kramden]

Dawson is a vast talent but he's still a kid. He's a few years away from filling out a cruiserweight frame. it wasn't long a go that he was actually campaigning at 160. Somehow I think he'll be a lightheavy for the foreseeable future.

 

[Fightwriter]

That was simply a great fight last night, with Agbeko vs Gonzalez also wonderfully entertaining. It was gracious of Kramden to give Cunningham kudos although he picked against him. The guy fought his heart out and nobody can ask for more. I think that in one of the old 15-rounders, Cunningham would have won because Adamek looked close to being totally spent in the 12th and I thought his legs were starting to give out a bit, but no question the Polish fighter won, and good luck to him, he earned it.

I know that a lot of us were very disappointed with De La Hoya because we felt that our guy didn't show up. At least Cunningham gave it everything he had.

Adamek would still have got the win on the scorecards, at face value, without the knockdowns (115-112, 116-110) but Kramden is right that the knockdowns cost Cunningham the fight because he twice got caught very late in rounds that he was winning, so a couple of 10-9 Cunningham rounds (the fourth a possible 10-8 because he was so dominant) suddenly went the other way, Not just that, but those late-round knockdowns must have been psychologically damaging for Cunningham while giving a great boost to Adamek.

Two tremendous 12-round fights on one show is almost unheard-of nowadays -- like him or not, I think we have to admit that Don King can still deliver.

 

[Ghost Kid]

Graham

How did you score that 4th round?

That was heartbreaking stuff for us Cunningham backers

He had already been down once,and seemed to be completely turning the tide

and then....BANG!....on the seat of his pants again...

could it not have been a 9-9 round? I heard Wally Matthews speaking of a 10 point must ?

I would love to see a rematch, but there is NO CHANCE I would bet that fight. Too evenly matched.

 

[gardenweasel]

That was simply a great fight last night, with Agbeko vs Gonzalez also wonderfully entertaining. It was gracious of Kramden to give Cunningham kudos although he picked against him. The guy fought his heart out and nobody can ask for more. I think that in one of the old 15-rounders, Cunningham would have won because Adamek looked close to being totally spent in the 12th and I thought his legs were starting to give out a bit, but no question the Polish fighter won, and good luck to him, he earned it.

I know that a lot of us were very disappointed with De La Hoya because we felt that our guy didn't show up. At least Cunningham gave it everything he had.

Adamek would still have got the win on the scorecards, at face value, without the knockdowns (115-112, 116-110) but Kramden is right that the knockdowns cost Cunningham the fight because he twice got caught very late in rounds that he was winning, so a couple of 10-9 Cunningham rounds (the fourth a possible 10-8 because he was so dominant) suddenly went the other way, Not just that, but those late-round knockdowns must have been psychologically damaging for Cunningham while giving a great boost to Adamek.

Two tremendous 12-round fights on one show is almost unheard-of nowadays -- like him or not, I think we have to admit that Don King can still deliver.

all the crap aside,king still,imo,puts together the cards that have the most "meat" in them...

i`m a don king fan(from purely a fan`s perspective)....although,i`m sure many fighters would disagree...

 

[A2C]

Graham

could it not have been a 9-9 round? I heard Wally Matthews speaking of a 10 point must ?

Yeah, 10-point must system, so it can't be a 9-9 round, which is somewhat unfortunate because if there's ever a round that deserved to be scored a tie, it was that 4th round.

I'm curious to see the actual judges' cards. I know Graham says that the knockdowns didn't end up mattering, but I don't think that's right. If the KD's didn't happen, you'd have an extra point for Cunningham in each of rounds 2 and 8. And if that judge with the 115-112 card had round 4 as 10-9, Adamek, then his card probably would've been 10-9 Cunningham in that 4th round if Adamek didn't score the knockdown. That would have led to the judge's score being 115-114, Cunningham, and he would've won a split decision.

 

[Fightwriter]

A2C, I am trying to get hold of the scorecards as they will be very interesting.

With a 10-point must system, the only time a boxer would not get a full 10 points would be if the ref instructed the judges to deduct a point for an infringement of the rules. Say a boxer drops his opponent but has a point off for hitting him while he is down -- that round would become 9-8 and not 10-8.

 

[Kramden]

That was simply a great fight last night, with Agbeko vs Gonzalez also wonderfully entertaining. It was gracious of Kramden to give Cunningham kudos although he picked against him. The guy fought his heart out and nobody can ask for more. I think that in one of the old 15-rounders, Cunningham would have won because Adamek looked close to being totally spent in the 12th and I thought his legs were starting to give out a bit, but no question the Polish fighter won, and good luck to him, he earned it.

I know that a lot of us were very disappointed with De La Hoya because we felt that our guy didn't show up. At least Cunningham gave it everything he had.

Adamek would still have got the win on the scorecards, at face value, without the knockdowns (115-112, 116-110) but Kramden is right that the knockdowns cost Cunningham the fight because he twice got caught very late in rounds that he was winning, so a couple of 10-9 Cunningham rounds (the fourth a possible 10-8 because he was so dominant) suddenly went the other way, Not just that, but those late-round knockdowns must have been psychologically damaging for Cunningham while giving a great boost to Adamek.

Two tremendous 12-round fights on one show is almost unheard-of nowadays -- like him or not, I think we have to admit that Don King can still deliver.

Graham, I agree that Cunningham would have won if they had to slog another 3 rounds. Adamek was getting a bit ragged.

And I almost forgot but as you say Agbeko vs. Gonzalez was tremendous. I dismissed it out of hand figuring it would be an easy win for the African but he had his hands full and labored a great deal. It was a fair call, though. Agbeko was rusty.