Nolan Richardson has been bought out...

[wareagle]

for around three million, reported out of memphis. the univ of ark could not have made a worse decision on this matter. Yeah his comments where typical "over on the boat" crap, but he was the best thing for that school. Good luck wooooo pigg sooooeeeeee!!!!!

 

[wareagle]

these reports might be BS. Nolan is on the court tonight, but if it is not, you heard it hear first:nono:

 

[Felonious Monk]

I'm hearing that it's not official yet but a press conference will follow the game tonight.

I'll be on the edge of my seat until then.

 

[Redhog]

wareagle how could you say that he is the best thing for Arkansas? After he played the racial card on Monday for the 850th time how in the world could he go into a recruits home and convince him and his parents that their son needs to come and play at arkansas? If he is being racially discriminated against would they want their son to go there......absolutley not...the school made the right descision its time for Nolan (i did not come over on the ship) Richardson to go...he was ready to retire and now its time to bring in some new life for the program...

 

[wareagle]

Hog, all i am saying is who else is going to take the pigs to the elite eight, four times in ten years...:nono:


coach cal, mabeye

 

[Redhog]

I hear what you are saying but what has he done the last five years.....Nothing

 

[dr. freeze]

i have never seen a guy do so much self-promotion as i just saw tonight in his press conference.....this might be the most self-righteous guy i have ever seen......his opinion of himself surpasses Pitino, Riley, and Parcell's put together!!!

 

[JSMOOTH]

I wanted to start a thread on Nolan...

I wanted to start a thread on Nolan...

but, for once, my better judgement took over. To all his comments, I'll simply reply....
:violin:

 

[Neemer]

I'd bet my last nickel that everyone that replied in this thread is friggin' WHITE as a snow flake! This is exactly what Nolan is talking about! Why in the hell don't we have some minorities in here discussing the elements involved in this utmost unfortunate situation?

Nolan appears to be in the perfect place, just across the river from his good ole' buddy, Bill Clinton.

 

[dr. freeze]

why do we insist on classifying everyone on the basis of their skin?

we are all brothers and for someone like Nolan to keep perpetuating this it will never go away. I prefer to look across the room at another man without thinking "there's a black guy", or "there's a chinese guy" or whatever and instead thinking "there's a cool looking guy".........Nolan immediately looks out at the world and his whole opinion of you will change based on your color. That is racist!

Everyone has problems each individual to himself or herself. Trying to divide us by color is detrimental. Some of my best friends in Houston are brothas and sometimes I go hang with a bunch of them and their buddies -- which are mostly black, and sometimes some of them hang with me and my other friends who are whites. We don't really bother about that stuff though and from time to time other than a friendly joke, race is never brought up. No need for guys like Nolan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and company going into things trying to polarize people anymore. We need to come together as a melting pot of people and come out as one people! That is what America is about! The only minorities in this country should be those of us that are here illegaly who should get the boot!

 

[JSMOOTH]

keep your nickel...

keep your nickel...

as my avatar shows, I'm white. White as a snowflake though is pushing it as I tan pretty easily.

If life as a college coach in Arkansas is so freaking bad, then quit cashing the heavy paychecks that they are giving you and get out!

I am so sick of having this black and white thing shoved down my throat! Every time I open the paper, there's an article of "Not enough black coaches in college footbal", or "The NBA is getting it right with 13 black head coaches", or Notre Dame has never had a black coach in any sport"!

Just today, in the USA TODAY, there's a mention of how there is no black broadcasters in the booth on sundays.

How about this......
February is "black history month". So, is April gonna be "white history month."? When will it be "Italian/Americam history month?"

We have universities that are known as "black colleges"...
We have a cable TV station called BET or "black entertainment television".

I know that with what I have just typed, I will be labeled a racist. I am not a racist, but am merely sick of hearing/seeing this crap every single day.

 

[Skinar]

Nolan Richardson is an excellent college basketball coach. He is also racially biased as evidenced by the fact he has had few white players on his teams. There are other black coaches who fall in the same category, John Thompson when he was at Georgetown (does everyone know that Georgetown is NOT a predominantly black university?). Tubby Smith is falling into the same syndrome now with black players from all over the US and a few 'white boys' polishing the bench with their posteriors.

Nolan is merely polishing his act so that he can get a better buyout after some lackluster seasons. Nothing brings in the cash faster than yelling 'racist' at a bunch of spineless university administrators. 'Yes Mr. Richardson. Your absolutely correct Mr. Richardson. Would a couple more million make you feel better Mr. Richardson?'

Yeah, I'm 'LILLY WHITE' as some would say. What the hell has that got to do with the truth?

 

[gecko]

Perception is reality, and reality is perception. That's how it goes in the world of sports. If you guys saw the ESPN special on Don Haskins' Texas Western team you know that black athletes were sorely lacking in male intercollegiate basketball 40 yrs ago. After they beat an all-white Adolph Rupp-coached Kentucky team to win the NCAA championship, one stigma was shattered and new myths created and perpetuated. That of the black male athlete. And that continues on til this day. Perception is that blacks can jump better, run better, more athletically gifted. That's just how it is. I was in a frat that played intramural basketball and we had a pledge that was black and 6'5". Could he play basketball? No. But our opposition were sure scared of us!

Now, as for John Thompson, he's no dummy. A great academic university like Georgetown (I grew up in D.C.) would not have near the success they enjoyed under his leadership without the type of recruits he sought out for his team. His son, JT Jr., coaches Princeton and has many whites on his team. Of course, the style his team plays has not changed over the years. The "Princeton-style" offense is tailored to suit teams that do not look to run up and down the court or may lack size or strength. Well-versed in the fundamentals, yes. Fun to watch, heck no. But let's consider this: there are a lot of white coaches who have white players "riding the bench", too. Bob Huggins anyone?

Bottom line is, coaches are paid to recruit, win and sell the program. White, black, Hispanic, foreign. It doesn't matter anymore. But it did to Adolph Rupp. NO minority players.

Let's face it, sports is now big business, college and pro. We pay tickets and tune in to be entertained. We enjoy that mix of individual athletic ability, team performance and the occasional selfish play. And if it means watching the stereotyped black athlete dunk the ball and hot dog, so be it. For better or worse, it's here to stay.

 

[Felonious Monk]

In 1992, Arkansas almost lost to Texas Southern at the Drum here in Austin for the first round of the tournament. Of course, the crowd was pulling hard for Southern (I believe this game was a 1 seed vs. a 16). After the game when his team had won by one point (the year after his national championship) he was doing the upside down Horn sign to the crowd. Fuhk him. I hope he never works again.

And I honestly don't believe he is going to land a big name job. The dude has flipped on this race card thing. I just heard him equate his firing to the murder of MLK jr on CNN this morning. The dude gets paid more than one million dollars per year to win basketball games and he isn't doing it. He gets fired and he thinks he is being persecuted for being black. I think anyone that gets paid one million dollars per year that complains abut racism in his/her life shoud be dragged into the street and set on fire.

And the reason for this whole tirade is that some Arkansas reporter ripped on his recruiting class. So much for being a great recruiter.

BTW, isn't his wife white?

 

[Skinar]

Gecko - Thanks for dragging Rupp out of the grave and around the old racial block one more time, I'm sure he would he happy to have the exposure.

I was a freshman at Kentucky the same year as Tom Payne, the first black basketball player in UK history. Rupp was pressured into recruiting Payne, it didn't turn out so well as we all know.

As for the rest of your post, I read that as saying - 'TOUGH SH*T WHITE BOY, IT'S PAYBACK TIME SO JUST SIT BACK AND SHUT UP!'

Perhaps I have oversimplified your post, but that's how it comes across to me. Roy Williams has never had a problem in finding some top notch white players, neither did Bobby Knight at Indiana, nor Coach K at Duke. My point is that when the roles were reversed, ala Adolph Rupp, everyone pointed out how evil it was to only have players of one race. That fact doesn't seem to bother anyone when the majority of players, or all the players, are the same race as the coach as long as the coach is black.

That line about JT Jr having many whites on his team is condescending by the way. I know that not all black coaches are biased, I only mentioned a few who are.

 

[Nick Douglas]

In my opinion, the bottom line is that if Richardson was a white coach he would have been treated better.

As far as receiving criticism for recruiting almost all black players, that is a nearly impossible issue to address fairly. Fact is that in most cases, the top athletes are black, especially in Memphis and along the western part of the south where Richardson plucked most of his recruits. Does that mean he never chose a black player of equal talent over a white player? It is entirely possible. You also have to remember that it is *human nature* to relate to those similar to you, so the fact that many young black athletes gravitate towards black coaches has something to do with the fact that a black coach would field all black or nearly all black teams year after year.

I like what some people wrote about not seeing people as one race or another but let's be realistic. It is unfortunate when somebody unjustifyably brings race into the equation but I think if you look at Richardson's success and the way he has been viewed in terms of his success I think it shows that Richardson was justified.

I should add that even though he is justified in feeling discriminated against in my opinion, I still find it foolish of him to treat the situation the way he did. I don't think he brought anything positive to the situation and instead simply created more problems by handling it the way he did.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Nolan is the highest paid coach at UA. Maybe that's what he meant by not being treated equally.

He should have been fired before he left the press conference. He is the biggest reverse racist there is.

 

[dr. freeze]

no kidding.....how can he feel justified in feeling discriminated against?

if he were white, his ass would be fired!!!! Not only for performance, but for his racist remarks!!!

Anyone can find something that goes wrong or dream up some tough circumstance that they find themselves in. Anyone can. You can blame it on the circumstance or you can overcome it. It seems that many minorities seem to cry discrimination anytime something does not go their way. Some think that their way should be paved with a red carpet, and if it is not, than they are being persecuted for their race.

Need to get over this mentality and quit perpetuating it. Everyone has problems and no one is treated perfectly by anyone. Richardson has long tenure, makes tons of money, has graduated TWO, yes TWO players since he has been there, and he thinks he is God. How come Nolan doesn't ever have a white guy that plays substantial minutes? Seems like I can only think of one or two in his career. THat seems a little disproportionate to the white population in Arkansas -- and at a state funded school albeit! Do you hear white people pull out the race card? Hell no.

Fire his ass and let him join Jesse Jackson's Rainbow coalition and see what a real bottom feeding, white people hater, communist, hypocritical, liar and cheater he can be. Keep stirring up dissension Nolan!!!! Good grief......the audacity of this man.

 

[SmashMouth]

Amen Freeze. I could not agree more. It seems as a white professional man the only racism I ever encounter is directed to me not by me. I don't know all the circumstances in Arkansas, but I know I could be cold "cracker" alot of times for the money he makes before I ever thought of complaning. He is a good coach but what about educating some of these kids, 2 graduates is insulting. Arkansas while a good academic institute, is no Duke. How come Coach K graduates so many more kids at a much tougher school? Who is the better Coach? Who is the better Man? Who is doing more for his kids in the long run? Nolan can kiss my ass.

 

[gecko]

Skinar,

My bringing Rupp into the picture was only to offer some historical perspective on the issue. Just that he had a policy of exclusion when it came to recruiting players for one of the elite and legendary college basketball programs in the nation at the time. I certainly wouldn't call that "evil", but to the degree that he did keep blacks off his team then he did discriminate. The question is: Would that be any different, or even worse, than what some of today's coaches are being accused of in this very thread (that they fill their teams with blacks to the point of excluding players of other ethnicities/races)? We have to distinguish between bias and preferences vs. perceived racial prejudice. If you can shed some further light on this issue because you attended UofK back then, please feel free to do so.

I hope my post does not connotate "tough sh*t white boy" at all. I certainly do not want to come off implying that. The main point of my post was that society perceives black athletes a certain way. It's stereotyping, but it is reality since in today's society we grow up believing that and it is fed to us in the media--movies, TV, magazines. That being the case, it is no wonder organizations on the collegiate and pro level, especially with basketball, seek out and recruit talented blacks. We demand slam dunks, high flyers, the 360's, we want to be trilled, and black players fill the need. And that sells tickets in this day and age. It's not the lack of talented white players, nor is it the lack of motivation to perform at their best either. Let's face it, basketball has evolved over the past 50 years just like popular music has.

Regarding the Coaches Thompson, I just wanted to contrast the two programs they were in charge of. What I meant, and that's why I pointed out Bobby Huggins, is that you didn't address WHITE coaches who have predominately black teams. It's not just black coaches who are "biased", as you put it. And obviously I'd have to be brain dead to even think that you believe all black coaches are biased.

As an aside, the fact is many of these black athletes do grow up less than well off and find sports to be an outlet to express themselves. Their role models who do play sports are glorified and idolized for their abilities and the almighty $$$. In trying to make their aspirations come true, they are fed through the system attending prep schools, jr. colleges and universities, and once they are done are released back to where they came from. Those that do get the opportunity to attend institutions of higher learning are pressured to perform at their peak at the expense of their academic pursuits. Frankly, some of them ignore their studies by choice, but many do so at the behest of their advisors. Coaches like Clem Haskins, Bob Huggins, and probably even Nolan Richardson, should be ashamed of themselves.