Not Guilty

[shawn555]

What is so hard to understand.Let me ask you a question.If we pulled out of Afghanistan today do you think they would stop trying to infiltrate our country in hope of causing death and mayhem.If you do your misled.No offense but your radical way of thinking is clueless.

You wanna bash my post that's fine,but bashing just to bash....grow-up.

What is radical about my way of thinking?

Just because you don't agree with some things that automatically makes it radical?

Its not my fault your posts are barely legible. A space after the period could help.

Of course if we immediately pulled out of Afghanistan we would still be targets. We would still be all over the middle east.

Are you telling me that us being over there is not creating a whole new generation of people who are going to hate us?

Face it we are always going to be targets no matter what, we are america.

I just dislike when the terrorists win because we start tossing out civil liberties and doing things we said we are against like torture.

 

[Lumi]

Have you been waterboarded Rusty ?

I have, on more than one occasion. Because, that's why?

So, get a hand towel from your bathroom, get it wet, fill up your bathtub, 8 inches of water should do it. MAKE SURE YOU ARE SUPERVISED ! Then, blindfold yourself, take a deep breath, wrap the wet towel around your grill, mouth and nose, take short quick breaths, then stick your head in the tub, you won't last more than 8 seconds ! You will fail the PBR When you are done gasping for air, get back on the bull and try for another 8 !

Now.... this isn't how it's done, but you are your own safety measure. Oh the things I COULD TELL YOU, BUT I CAN'T AND WON'T DIVULGE :nono: :nono:

I COULD HAVE YOU SHAVING YOUR LEGS AND SINGING CABERET INSIDE OF 10 MINUTES IF I WAS LET ALONE WITH YOU

 

[Trench]

Are you telling me that us being over there is not creating a whole new generation of people who are going to hate us?

"No Shawn... they hate us for our freedom... simple as that!"

 

[SKEETER1]

Need answers from UR enemy?....Do what it takes...U think these terrorists give a damn to following rules.....You have a damn terrorist in ur hands and u do nothing. But by using methods of whatever it takes to get answers is not reasonable? If I am in the battlefield w/ any 1 of you and have to go to ur parents house and say "I am sorry ur son is dead" and the parents ask "Could this have been prevented or any steps taken, that could have prevented my sons death"? I then say Hell YES...I could have probably gotten some answers but all these azzholes think I am committing torture...when all these terrorists catch us and cut our heads off when we give them nothing. Maybe "IF" (which is better than nothing) could have gotten these bastards to talk by any means necessary, then we could have known an entrapment was lying ahead. But since we have these New York Lawyers following our ass w/ a fine tooth comb so I could do nothing. So I am sorry to say ur son is dead and I did nothing to get information. KISS my azz...I will do whatever it takes to save my fellow soldier. It's my head or theirs???? I will be damn if its mine or my fellow american.

 

[shawn555]

Need answers from UR enemy?....Do what it takes...U think these terrorists give a damn to following rules.....You have a damn terrorist in ur hands and u do nothing. But by using methods of whatever it takes to get answers is not reasonable? If I am in the battlefield w/ any 1 of you and have to go to ur parents house and say "I am sorry ur son is dead" and the parents ask "Could this have been prevented or any steps taken, that could have prevented my sons death"? I then say Hell YES...I could have probably gotten some answers but all these azzholes think I am committing torture...when all these terrorists catch us and cut our heads off when we give them nothing. Maybe "IF" (which is better than nothing) could have gotten these bastards to talk by any means necessary, then we could have known an entrapment was lying ahead. But since we have these New York Lawyers following our ass w/ a fine tooth comb so I could do nothing. So I am sorry to say ur son is dead and I did nothing to get information. KISS my azz...I will do whatever it takes to save my fellow soldier. It's my head or theirs???? I will be damn if its mine or my fellow american.

Are we not better than terrorists?

Is there any proof that waterboarding gets information we could get without pissing on the geneva convention?

Don't you get it, we are surrendering what we stand for by torturing. The terrorist win when we start doing this nonsense.

And if you are find with us doing it, I do not want to hear any bitching when people torture our service members to get information. You can not have it just one way.

 

[shawn555]

Skeeter have you thought about not watching Hannity so much?

How about a thought of your own that was not manufactured by fear.

 

[shawn555]

"No Shawn... they hate us for our freedom... simple as that!"

We used to think oceans could protect us. :00hour

 

[Trench]

Are we not better than terrorists?

Is there any proof that waterboarding gets information we could get without pissing on the geneva convention?

Don't you get it, we are surrendering what we stand for by torturing.

Very astute observations Shawn. I've challenged others on this board to produce the name of just one high ranking military official, active or retired, that supports waterboarding or any form of torture. Response: cricketts. Because the only supporters they can produce are chickenhawks like Dick Cheney and Sean Hannity (below).

 

[Lumi]

Watch Christopher Hitchens Get Waterboarded

Watch Christopher Hitchens Get Waterboarded

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[Lumi]

A CHALLENGE TO YOU TOUGH GUYS !

FUCKING DO IT !

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[Trampled Underfoot]

This is the kind of information you get from torture.

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[Lumi]

How is this for torture?

I would make them watch the last 4 Will Farrell and Adam Sandler Movies, give them a 44 oz Dr Pepper and don't let them use the restroom.

That will show 'em

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Fox new reporter being water boarded--
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/

Amazing all remarks from the "don't taz me bro OW OW OW crew"

--as I said before--would rathher be submitted to few seconds of waterboarding anyday--rather than having to listen to blaring rap music all day--and I'm as serious s I can be.

---I have a feeling some may change their minds when the shit hits the fan.

We have been extremely lucky of the incompetence of enemy of late--Smoldering duds in both terrorist on plane and New York --the latter being able to lose those tailing him and get on plane is unbelievable.:nooo:

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Fox new reporter being water boarded--
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/

Amazing all remarks from the "don't taz me bro OW OW OW crew"

--as I said before--would rathher be submitted to few seconds of waterboarding anyday--rather than having to listen to blaring rap music all day--and I'm as serious s I can be.

---I have a feeling some may change their minds when the shit hits the fan.

We have been extremely lucky of the incompetence of enemy of late--Smoldering duds in both terrorist on plane and New York --the latter being able to lose those tailing him and get on plane is unbelievable.:nooo:

Don't kid yourself. The GOP is just as pathetic on terrorism.

I hate rap music too, but if you were my neighbor it would be blasted all day long.

 

[RAYMOND]

A CHALLENGE TO YOU TOUGH GUYS !

FUCKING DO IT !

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AND YOU SMOKE UP AGAIN:shrug:

 

[rusty]

Reset the Bull shit

Reset the Bull shit

This is getting way outta hand and off topic lol,
This is Rusty dudes bro in law Craiger:

1st) The main topic most agree yay armed forces! Of course he was in a situation with an enemy and subdued accordingly without extreme abuse but with prejudice as it should be

2nd) Why are we in this fight with Middle Eastern Muslims who want us to perish?

We all have to understand that religion defines the day and goes back to the writs of history.. Egyptians enslaving theJews, let my people go etc. Muslims and Christians fighting the Holy wars because we disagree how to live life and love the correct god. We are sinners in the Muslim mind, we are allowed to express ourselves and allow the human conscious to guide whereas they are not allowed and must follow the Koran suppressing expression unlike the extremes we display.

Ergo time and here we are....., yes our country stood strong and got a big taste of being king "pookaloo" of the world winning the 1st and 2nd WW's.with self-righteous feel good victory. and vow freedom for all, enter big business, big government and exploitation of such makes us disliked.. unfortunately us confiscatory tax paying, law abiding people pay the price for gluttony and greed. Will we influence and change the middle east? .. doubt it... haven't had any luck since the Big one, and started with Korea which is still unresolved. If we ever do pull out of the middle east, then half of them will go back to fighting each other while holding in common an enemy such as us. So no matter what we say or do Long live America !! somehow we will right the path if we can ever stop the "giant sucking sound" before our pants are around our ankles.

 

[rusty]

Reset the Bull shit

Reset the Bull shit

Oh yeah.. God Bless *

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

This is getting way outta hand and off topic lol,
This is Rusty dudes bro in law Craiger:


2nd) Why are we in this fight with Middle Eastern Muslims who want us to perish?

We all have to understand that religion defines the day and goes back to the writs of history.. Egyptians enslaving theJews, let my people go etc. Muslims and Christians fighting the Holy wars because we disagree how to live life and love the correct god. We are sinners in the Muslim mind, we are allowed to express ourselves and allow the human conscious to guide whereas they are not allowed and must follow the Koran suppressing expression unlike the extremes we display.

Rusty called in for help. :mj07:

What we got was more BS. Why don't you actually give a reason why Muslims hate the United States? They weren't attacking us in the 1920's were they? No they weren't. So why are they pissed?

Go ahead Rusty, go find another family member. We will give you time.

 

[hedgehog]

great news

 

[Lumi]

This is getting way outta hand and off topic lol,
This is Rusty dudes bro in law Craiger:

Is this another Van Wilder Movie? Craiger! ? ! :mj07: , how fucking old are you? Did you guys play beer pong all night to come up with that or is he the 13th apostle?