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Will be posting a chitload of stuff today - my thoughts part 2, wire copy, 2nd div odds etc...

bad news if we're stuck with the TAB only - more juice and quel horreur, no spreads yet for any of the weekend games - but no surprise. That may mean the write-ups may have to come before the play - I'll probably set my own line during the week and key in a play after I see the TAB line, factoring for weather, team changes etc...

Eric - don't fancy the boys from the Capital to repeat myself, but could be wrong - often are
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I think Canterbury will probably win the thing - the desire to defend the Ranfurly Shield and their depth when their ABs return should make them very hard to roll. But don't fancy a futures wager at +250 too much. Think Waikato at $5.50 may be worth a dabble - if their front row stands up they can match any other side..

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oh, and Cartman, you wouldn't believe the amount of $ they generate from those bullchit prop plays.
Not big $ on NPC maybe but for a test match the public just lap it up - first tryscorer etc... the amount of NZ punters who still see sports betting as the opportunity for action rather than an investment is frankly, phenomenal
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For those really keen one can join the NPC fantasy league ! http://www.virtualnpc.co.nz

The only reason those try scorer bets are popular is due to the monopoly advertising at peak times on the TV. No body with any real money actually bets them, and the TAB handle I hear is dropping off, many of the smart punters betting offshore (i.e. us) and now that centerbet is offering NZ racing the track tote handle has dropped also.

As with the bad juice, the spreads will move quickly off the 1.85 split when any decent money is placed on them, in general it pays to wait if it is a dog and to get in a quickly as possible with the favs, and particularly the home favs otherwise your left with $1.55. Does even out though as you will get some lines at $2.00 and up.

Good luck, you all know what I will be betting from what I have posted above! Home teams and home dogs and expecting a 60% season again.
 

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Whale - as there's no home dogs in the NPC Div 1 this weekend, do you fancy anyhting in Div 2?

ML for Div 2 opening games:

Thames Valley $2.10 v King Country $1.65
Hawke's Bay $1.08 v East Coast $6.50
Wanganui $2.50 v Manawatu $1.45
Mid Canterbury $2.50 v Marlborough $1.45
 

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Especially for my Horowhenua mates...
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RUGBY-NPC-THIRD-IMPORTS
IMPORTS CURLY QUESTION FOR MINOR UNIONS
Wellington, Aug 9 - The term ``import'' was once a dirty word in some third division rugby provinces. The verdict is still out on whether they're a good thing or a just quick fix.
Two Hurricanes catchment unions -- Wairarapa Bush and Horowhenua Kapiti -- are taking different approaches to the issue.
Wairarapa Bush can't get enough of Wellington's surplus rugby talent.
However, Horowhenua coach Jim Barker will only use local players this season, believing the use of imports in the third division was getting out of hand.
Over half of his team have no representative experience and three players -- Feagaiga Feagaiga, 17, Michael Whakatihi, 18, and Paki Waerea, 18 -- are still at college.
``I am here to rebuild Horowhenua rugby and because there is no promotion-relegation this year it's an ideal opportunity to try out some new players,'' he said.
``By the time next year rolls around we will have some battle-hardened young players up to speed with NPC play ready to attack next year with vigour.''
Wairarapa Bush has relied heavily on players from Hutt Valley in recent seasons. The move has not dampened public support for the team as it has in other areas. Coach Roger Walker, himself an import from Manawatu, said it was unrealistic not to use imports in the third division.
``It would be tempting not to this year because there is no promotion but at the end of the day we have a responsibility to sponsors, fans and the union to win as many games as we can.''
Petone first-five Darren Kapene will spearhead the Wairarapa Bush attack as he did when Bush beat a Wellington 15 in May.
Fellow Wellington club players Brian Saolele, Thomas Gemmell and Justin Va'a make up the team's maximum four loan players.
Several others have Wellington connections, including former Wellington representative Mike Robinson. The strapping No 8 will captain Walker's side.
Walker was unsure where his main opposition in the division would come from now East Coast will be in the second division this year.
``South Canterbury could be the giant killers -- you never know what they will come up with, but all the games are tough because there is a lot of pride at stake.''
Walker made a huge impact during his first season as coach of the Bush last year. The union was relegated from the second division in 1998 and finished bottom of division three in 1999.
But Walker's rescue mission in 2000 took the side to the semifinals where they narrowly lost to eventual champion East Coast.
Meanwhile, Barker said Horowhenua Kapiti's goals were more modest this year considering two of the region's most experienced players, last year's captain Fabien Spencer and 153-game veteran Paul Hirini, are unavailable.
Hooker Steve Free will captain the team in Spencer's absence.
Giant 120kg wing Laiga Lokene has been named vice captain and he is set to become the team's key playmaker. Lokene, with 38 caps, is the team's most experienced member.
Horowhenua won just one NPC match last season --against West Coast at Levin although they almost upset East Coast at Eden Park.
Their poor record consigned last year's coaches Jack Bowick and Wayne Rider to the scrap heap.
Barker knows what it feels like when the axe falls. He coached the union from 1995-98 before he was sacked.
Despite this unhappy memory Barker said it was important coaches focused on long-term gains for their provinces instead of the quick-fix option to save themselves from being dumped.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-AUCKLAND
PIVAC SAYS SOUTHLAND `A MYSTERY'
By Helen Tunnah of NZPA
Auckland, Aug 9 - Auckland rugby coach Wayne Pivac says lack of knowledge of Southland has hampered preparations ahead of the opening round National Provincial Championship clash at Eden Park tomorrow.
But he said he disregarded any talk the southerners will struggle in this year's first division contest.
``It's a bit too early to be suggesting anyone's going to be easy-beats,'' Pivac told NZPA.
``We don't know a lot about Southland which makes it hard. We don't have any video footage of them, there are players there we don't know a lot about.
``So it makes it difficult to work out how they are going to play the game and that will be the hardest thing for us.''
Pivac said every team wants to get off to a good start in the championship, and the first round is perhaps the worst time to strike Southland.
Auckland, 1999 winners and semifinalists last year under the coaching combination of Pivac and Grant Fox, have named a strong line-up, with almost half the team former All Blacks.
With only winger Doug Howlett absent on national duties, Auckland have been left relatively intact with the All Blacks still playing and Pivac said that has been good for preparations.
Auckland's build-up has been comfortable in recent weeks, with a narrow loss to North Harbour and a solid win over Northland in warm-up games.
Pivac said not a lot can be taken from the results.
``As a coach, it's nice to win every game. But so long as we're making progress...,'' he said.
``We're reasonably happy with where we're at.''
Auckland have a couple of injury worries heading into the game, with lock Robin Brooke nursing an injured elbow and Joeli Vidiri a strained leg muscle.
Pivac has moved Blues wing Mils Muliaina to fullback, in a decision not as experimental as it first appeared.
``That's where he's played most of his club football. With Adrian (Cashmore) going there was an opportunity at fullback and we believe he's got the skills to play there and probably at higher level as well,'' Pivac said.
When he recovers from a shoulder injury, the Blues fullback Orene Ai'i will work with the Auckland development team, but with a focus on first five-eighth.
Although the Blues produced their worst ever result in the Super 12 this season, Pivac does not believe that form will carry over into the NPC.
And neither does he accept some of the criticism handed out to his side this week by former All Blacks halfback and newspaper columnist Chris Laidlaw.
Auckland were described as ``brimming with natural talent, but under-endowed with brains'' by Laidlaw, a comment not appreciated by Pivac.
``If our team has no brains -- we've won 18 out of 21 games so far under Grant and myself, so there must be some pretty uneducated sides out there. It must be a dumb competition,'' Pivac said.
Auckland: Malili Muliaina, Iliesa Tanivula, Eroni Clarke, Joeli Vidiri/Justin Wilson, Jeremy Stanley, Carlos Spencer, Steve Devine, Samiu Vahafolau, Justin Collins, Robin Brooke/Bradley Mika, Charles Riechelmann, Xavier Rush (captain), Christian Califano, Keven Mealamu, Nick White. Reserves: Kevin Senio, Amasio Valence, Wilson/Sam Tuitupou, James Christian, Paul Thomson, Mika/Ali Williams, Stephen Bates.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-TARANAKI-TEAM
TARANAKI TEAM V NORTHLAND
Wellington, Aug 8 - Taranaki rugby team for the NPC first division match against Northland in New Plymouth on Friday:
Daryl Lilley, Shayne Austin, Faapulou Soolefai, Dominic Byrne, Mepi Faoagali, Mark Urwin, Brendan Haami, Campbell Feather, Brent Thompson, Andy Slater (captain), Keith Robinson, Paul Tito, Gordon Slater, Andrew Hore, Tony Penn. Reserves: Daniel Smith, Isaac Cook, Chris Masoe, Scott Breman, Denning Tyrell, Bryce Robins, Chris Woods.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-OTAGO
HAWKER REJOINS OTAGO ON WING
Dunedin, Aug 8 - Midfield back Roy Hawker has been brought back from Southland to play on the right wing for Otago in the NPC first division rugby opener against North Harbour at Carisbrook on Friday night.
Hawker was on loan to Southland for the NPC but was brought back to Dunedin this week because of the series of injuries to key players.
Hawker is experienced in club rugby but will be playing just his sixth game for Otago.
The injury woes have continued for the Otago team, with four key players ruled out this week.
When coach Laurie Mains announced the team before training at Carisbrook tonight, they were without first-choice wingers Neil Brew, who has a hamstring twinge, and Dan Parkinson, with a calf muscle strain.
Midfielder Romi Ropati is already out for the season, while forwards Kelvin Middleton and John Blaikie were injured in the warmup match against Wellington on Friday.
When their eight current All Blacks are added, it means Otago will be without 13 key players for the North Harbour game.
``It was almost last man standing in the back three,'' Mains said. ``But I'm happy with the combination they have shown.''
Hayden Reid is at fullback, Hawker on the right wing and James Jowsey on the left wing.
Jowsey had a disappointing game against Wellington, but he demonstrated last year that he was capable of lifting himself for the challenge of a big game.
The difficult selection decision was at second five-eighth, where George Leaupepe was given the nod over Seilala Mapusua.
``George is back to form and his leadership on defence will be crucial to us. It was a close call with Seilala but George's experience will be to our advantage in the backline,'' Mains said.
Otago intend to play the game at speed and have chosen two fast flankers in Josh Blackie and Duncan Blaikie.
There is a strong front row, with tighthead prop Kees Meeuws back to his best form against Wellington. South African Marius Mostert has been bracketed with Joe McDonnell at loosehead, but is expected to start.
Otago team: Hayden Reid, Roy Hawker, Ryan Nicholas, George Leaupepe, James Jowsey, Brendan Laney, David Gibson, Paul Miller, Duncan Blaikie, Josh Blackie, Simon Mailing, Filipo Levi, Kees Meeuws, Tom Willis (captain), Marius Mostert or Joe McDonnell. Reserves: Davin Heaps, McDonnell or Mostert, Hale Tu'uhoko, Sam Harding, Seilala Mapusua, Regan Finch, Brett McCormack.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-HARBOUR
ITALIAN TEST LOCK TO COVER FOR FLAVELL
Auckland, Aug 8, NZPA - North Harbour will fling Australian-born Italian test lock Mark Giacheri into their opening NPC rugby clash against Otago in Dunedin on Friday night.
The 32-year-old Sydneysider, who has played 37 tests for Italy since 1992, has been in the country just a few days but will join Matt Lord in the second row.
Giacheri played in the Italian team beaten 101-3 by the All Blacks in Huddersfield at the 1999 World Cup, a team which included his new North Harbour team-mate Glen Osborne.
The powerfully built 2.03m-tall Giacheri, whose last test was against Argentina a month ago, will be North Harbour's middle of the lineout jumper.
He and has been signed for the first five rounds to cover for the absence of All Black Troy Flavell.
``We really needed someone to cover Troy and found Mark through a series of contacts,'' said assistant coach Allan Pollock.
Giacheri pushes Phil Weedon into the reserves, and North Harbour have made another key change to what was shaping as their starting 15.
Veteran first five-eighth Frano Botica will start ahead of Willie Walker as Harbour look for experience and goalkicking in their opening assignment.
``It is a pressure game, the first game of the tournament, and you'd have to say that often the first games are over-refereed, with a lot of penalties,'' Pollock added.
North Harbour have injury problems at second five-eighth.
Rua Tipoki is out because of neck and leg injuries, and former All Black Mark Mayerhofler has an injured groin and is bracketed with New Zealand Universities representative Scott Adams, who did his medical studies in Dunedin.
Giacheri will face an Otago lineout missing the experienced John Blaikie, out with mild concussion thanks to Wellington lock Dion Waller who punched him during Friday's warmup game. Waller was suspended for two weeks for the act last night.
Otago captain Kelvin Middleton is out for six weeks with medial ligament damage.
All Blacks captain Anton Oliver's hooker understudy, Tom Willis, takes over the leadership.
In the three-quarters, Dan Parkinson, who has a calf muscle strain, and Neil Brew, with a hamstring twinge, will also be missing.
Teams:
North Harbour: Glen Osborne, Aisea Tuilevu, Rico Gear, Mark Mayerhofler or Scott Adams, Karl Te Nana, Frano Botica, Mark Robinson (captain), Blair Urlich, Matua Parkinson, Craig Newby, Mark Giacheri, Matt Lord, Tevita Taumoepeau, Slade McFarland, Tony Woodcock. Reserves: Adams, Willie Walker, Tony Alatini, Liam Barry, Phil Weedon, John Buchanan, Ace Tiatia.
Otago: Hayden Reid, Roy Hawker, Ryan Nicholas, George Leaupepe, James Jowsey, Brendan Laney, David Gibson, Paul Miller, Duncan Blaikie, Josh Blackie, Simon Maling, Filipo Levi, Kees Meeuws, Tom Willis (captain), Marius Mostert or Joe McDonnell. Reserves: Seilala Mapusua, Regan Finch, Brett McCormack, Sam Harding, Hale Tu'uhoko, McDonnell or Mostert, Davin Heaps.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-WELLINGTON
NGAUAMO IN SURPRISE LATE CALL-UP
Wellington, Aug 8 - Milton Ngauamo had resigned himself to being a reserve in the Wellington NPC rugby team this season.
With Hurricanes Dion Waller and Inoke Afeaki in the squad, the Oriental-Rongotai club lock was preparing to warm the bench in Sunday's opening first division match against Bay of Plenty at WestpacTrust Stadium here.
But Waller has been suspended for two weeks for punching Otago's John Blaikie in last Friday's pre-season match in Dunedin. He will miss Sunday's game and next Friday's match against Taranaki in New Plymouth.
It presents a huge opportunity for the 25-year-old Ngauamo to press for a more permanent place in the starting 15.
``I've definitely got very big shoes to fill,'' Ngauamo said today.
``Dion is a great lineout jumper -- you get guaranteed ball with him there -- so I have to step up in that area.
``Dion's also very good at kickoffs and that's an area I need to work on -- it's more a confidence thing I think.''
Ngauamo has played little rugby in recent weeks as Ories did not make the Jubilee Cup playoffs.
He got 17 minutes of game time against Otago and about 25 minutes against Taranaki a week earlier.
``I'll be lacking match fitness and game time so it will be interesting to see how things go,'' he said.
``I'd had it in mind that I would be a reserve for at least the first few games, but it's good to get the opportunity.''
Ngauamo came to Wellington last year from Auckland after he had played all nine NPC games in 1998 but was not wanted by coach Wayne Pivac in 1999.
A knee injury late in the club season set him back during last year's NPC, but he played against Waikato when Afeaki was dropped, and came on in the final against Canterbury.
The Wellington team will be named tomorrow, but there will be an Auckland feel to the lineouts on Sunday with Ngauamo likely to mark either Mark Weedon or Jason Chandler, both of whom have played for Auckland.
Ngauamo's effort in tandem with Afeaki in the scrums will be important on Sunday, with Wellington coach Dave Rennie expected to name rookies Tim Fairbrother and Sam Johnstone at prop.
Openside flanker Kupu Vanisi has been cleared to play after a lengthy knee injury but his comeback will be in the curtainraiser playing for Wellington B.
Rennie will name a Super 12 loose forward trio with All Black Jerry Collins at No 8, Filo Tiatia on the blindside and Rodney So'oialo at openside.
With Christian Cullen's comeback from knee surgery likely to happen against Taranaki, Shannon Paku will play at fullback with Brad Fleming and Lome Fa'atau on the wings.
The Hurricanes combination of Jason O'Halloran, Paul Steinmetz, David Holwell and Jason Spice should complete the backline.
Wellington (likely): Shannon Paku, Brad Fleming, Jason O'Halloran, Lome Fa'atau, Paul Steinmetz, David Holwell, Jason Spice, Jerry Collins, Rodney So'oialo, Milton Ngauamo, Inoke Afeaki, Filo Tiatia, Tim Fairbrother, Norm Hewitt (captain), Sam Johnstone. Reserves: Apoua Stewart, Junior Fatialofa, Riki Flutey, Semo Sititi, Andrew Gallagher, Tony Coughlan, Shane Carter.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-FIRST-PREVIEW
WELLINGTON START WITH PLAYER ABSENCES
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Auckland, Aug 8 - Champions Wellington have got off to the worst possible start in their defence of rugby's NPC division one crown, losing lock Dion Waller before the contest even starts.
Ill-discipline has plagued Wellington teams in the past -- they also have prop Mike Edwards missing after he was suspended in July for biting -- and in a tight NPC, suspended players should earn their coaches' ire.
However, Wellington coach Dave Rennie has shown some sympathy for Waller, today calling for match officials to be more vigilant in their policing of games.
He says he does not advocate his players take the law into their own hands, but he told the Evening Post newspaper: ``We don't want the boys to take everything on the chin''.
Waller ended Wellington's NPC warmup games with a sinbinning against Taranaki, and a two match suspension after being sent off against Otago for striking John Blaikie just minutes into last week's game.
For Rennie, Waller's suspension is a serious loss, but the incident has also been a blow for Otago, who must now start their season without Blaikie who was concussed by the punch.
On paper, Wellington deserve their rating as strong title contenders.
They ooze talent, with or without their All Blacks, and it may be the disruption to their front row is their biggest handicap.
Without Edwards, at least until next week, and with the departure of Kevin Yates and South African Morne van der Merwe, Wellington's power in the scrum could be sorely tested.
Last year, the champions arrived at Eden Park for the semi-finals the underdogs to Auckland.
However it was the 1999 champions who faltered, wilting 23-48 in a dismal performance which still rankles the Aucklanders.
Despite the loss, coach Wayne Pivac boasts an impressive record in his two years in charge -- 18 from 21 with assistant Grant Fox, and his abilities should never be underestimated.
Although Auckland have lost some experience, with the non-selections of Craig Dowd and Craig Innes, Pivac has shored up his team with French test prop Christian Califano and the retention of old hands Robin Brooke and Eroni Clark.
The lack of All Blacks in the Auckland lineup will also be a bonus for the northern side, with only wing Doug Howlett missing in the opening games.
``It's an interruption for the likes of Canterbury and Otago, who have seven or eight members gone so that's going to affect any side,'' Pivac told NZPA.
``Some teams would say they have a lucky draw striking Otago and Canterbury and Wellington without their All Blacks. It doesn't affect us at all. We don't get to take advantage of the top sides without their players.
``But we look at it, to win the championship you're going to strike those sides at some stage with all their players.''
Pivac rates this year's competition as much harder than that his team won two years ago, saying as many as seven teams could end up vying for the title.
Canterbury and Otago are the TAB favourites for the title, just ahead of Auckland, Wellington and Waikato.
Canterbury, last year's losing finalists, have twin prizes to seek.
As Ranfurly Shield holders, Canterbury will play their last games of the round-robin defending the famous log-o-wood.
For teams like Canterbury, the shield holds enormous emotional history. To win the NPC, Canterbury will have to also win their shield games -- so one prize could feed off the other.
Canterbury have already courted controversy with coach Steve Hansen's decision not to name his starting lineup until kickoff, and will start the season without their All Blacks. However, such is the depth of talent in the province, this is one team capable of overcoming that hurdle.
Much in Otago has been made of the return of long-time player and coach Laurie Mains.
His side will have less ability to handle the absence of All Blacks, as their skittery showing in early games last season demonstrated.
They are also handicapped with the loss of captain Kelvin Middleton to injury, and now Blaikie's enforced absence.
But no one in world rugby can ever underestimate Mains' ability to mould a match-winning team.
Of the others, Waikato and Taranaki have the best hopes of upsetting the top four.
The two provincial unions boast fewer stars than the others, but Waikato in particular will be buoyed by the unity developed by John Mitchell with the Chiefs this year.
North Harbour boast talent galore, but so have other teams from the union north of the Harbour Bridge.
The under-achievers of the NPC, coach Wayne Shelford will need his All Blacks Troy Flavell and Ron Cribb to lead from the front when they return from international duty.
Four teams are already expected to be battling relegation with their unions simply not having the financial or player strength to compete. Northland and Southland can always be counted on to upset, but Counties-Manukau and the newly promoted Bay of Plenty will struggle.
With the eleventh side automatically relegated, and the tenth team facing a promotion-relegation playoff against the division two winners, the bottom end of the table is one place teams will be desperate to avoid this year.
 

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RUGBY-NPC-SECOND-PREVIEW
HAWKE'S BAY, NELSON BAY FAVOURITES FOR TITLE
By Helen Tunnah of NZPA
Auckland, Aug 8 - Rugby's top contenders to win the NPC's second division are battling not to be given the mantle of title favourites.
``Don't call us that,'' Hawke's Bay union chief executive Ian Condon said, suggesting it might be more appropriate to hand Nelson Bays the label.
However it was Nelson Bays' head Peter Barr who firmly labelled Hawke's Bay as the team to beat this season, which begins on Saturday.
Nelson Bays won the second division two years ago, but for financial reasons were denied entry into the first division.
Last season, Nelson Bays lost in the final to Bay of Plenty, and although they asked again for promotion to the top division, they were turned down with questions raised about player depth in the region.
Barr says this year the rules have changed, player depth will not be an issue, and Nelson Bays are going all out for promotion.
Already the team can boast promising pre-season form, with wins over first division sides Southland and Wellington, although the latter were without their All Blacks.
Nelson Bays were hammered in a Ranfurly Shield match by Canterbury, but Kerr said that was the difference between a professional and amateur team.
``All second division teams have aspirations to be in the first division, and Nelson Bays are no different. Against Southland we showed we can match it with the bottom end of the first division, and we feel we can be competitive against the bottom half.''
But Barr said Nelson Bays were not getting ahead of themselves with the season yet to kickoff.
The team have a bye in the opening round, but have arranged a ``friendly'' against Canterbury B to ensure their preparations retain intensity.
The Canterbury union will also help Nelson Bays later in the season, with prop Con Barrell and lock Peter Bowden expected to be offered on loan.
Nelson Bays beat Hawke's Bay 43-16 in their second division semifinal last year.
Kerr said that was a case of experience beating inexperience, and that had changed.
``They are seen as the favourites and we're happy with that.
``But you can't take anyone easy. Look at Mid Canterbury, they proved last year they can beat teams at the top of the competition and they did so.
``It'll be a fascinating competition.''
Condon agrees.
The arrival of veteran halfback Stu Forster to his home roots will provide Hawke's Bay with a significant boost in experience.
Back from playing in Britain, the former Hawke's Bay, Otago and All Blacks halfback has been handed the captaincy as the province looks to him to lead from the front.
There is some controversy about the Hawke's Bay line-up this season, with coach Mark Shaw's side boasting six players from South Africa or Zimbabwe, and a Welshman.
Condon told NZPA Hawke's Bay wanted to use locals, or New Zealanders, but just could not get the players they wanted.
``We tried to get players through the loan system, but we couldn't get the right players in the right positions. And most of them had contracts with their provinces, so it was a lot easier to target overseas.
``There's been a little bit of criticism, but it does put pressure on our local players to perform.''
Condon said Hawke's Bay's build-up had been up and down, with a good draw against North Harbour and a ``terrible'' loss to Southland.
He said Hawke's Bay would respect all their opponents.
``You can't afford to drop one game, because then you lose the home team semifinal.''
He said promotion would be hard for any second division team to achieve. The 11th team in the first division are this year automatically relegated, while the second division winners play the 10th team from the top level away in the promotion-relegation decider.
``It's a big ask, but it's our aim,'' Condon said.
Hawke's Bay start their programme on Saturday at home against East Coast, newly promoted from the third division.
East Coast can be expected to struggle in the higher grade, as will last year's wooden spooners Mid Canterbury, who have lost the services of halfback Aaron Flynn.
With two teams to be relegated this year, both East Coast and Mid Canterbury can be relied on to be desperately seeking second division survival.
The other five teams -- King Country, Marlborough, Manawatu, Thames Valley and Wanganui -- will strive to join Nelson Bays and Hawke's Bay in the semifinals.
However, most have lost talent to first division contracts, and those gaps might in the end be the difference between title contenders and pretenders.
 

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Not really needed now but here's the second half of my team preview..

NORTH HARBOUR - Always promise plenty but normally fail to deliver on a consistent basis. Danger signs that they lack depth and ambition when 38-y-o veteran Frano Botica is back in the fold at first-five. They have impact players in the likes of Troy Flavell, Ron Cribb, Mark Robinson and loose forward fliers Matua Parkinson and Craig Newby but may lack the toughness and ... required to knock over the hotshots on a regular scale.

TARANAKI - the over-achievers of the NPC. The rural boys of the comp have upset the city slickers on numerous occasions, making the semifinals in two of the last three seasons. They could go close again this year, once more thanks to a no-frills forward pack that won't take a backward step. They will be rock solid at scrum time led by Gordon Slater while brother Andy, Paul Tito and Campbell Feather are others with Super 12 experience and ability. They also possess an under-rated backline which contains danger men in fullback Darryl Lilley and second-five Mepi Fao'gali.

NORTHLAND - like Taranaki, teak-tough up front and very hard to roll at home. The pack, led by inspirational captain Glenn Taylor, will be well drilled. But they still find it hard to retain the star performers and may suffer this year through a lack of genuine top-drawer performers.

SOUTHLAND - Likely to battle to avoid the wooden spoon and relegation. They will be notably short on quality players and may have to rely on the home advantage and some ghastly Invercargill weather to sneak enough points to stave off bottom place.

COUNTIES MANUKAU - Despite having some fine talent, they will also be mostly cannon fodder to the big sharks. Loki Chrichton (sp), Koula Tukino and Danny Lee are impact players but they will lackthe grunt up front to give these players much quality possession and they will spend most of their campaign on the back foot.

BAY OF PLENTY - The competiton newcomers could be the surprise package. Then again, they could get whomped on many occasions. Coach Gordon Tietjens, who has masterminded many superb international successes with the NZ 7s team, will be desperate to show his wares at the top leve of the 15-a-side game. If they can match teams up front they will need to be watched but there will be plenty of pressure on inconsistent first-five Glen Jackson to run the cutter with a steady hand.

So that's a very brief rundown of the sides. I think Whale has made some very salient points - and backed them with stats - that show the home teams are very hard to beat in this comp. Even the bottom sides can push the title favourites in their own park - and remember, they may be getting plenty of points on the spread. Rain is also a great leveller in rugby, so it will pay to give close attention to the weather.

Hope you all have fun and win a little dosh with the NPC.
 

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Originally posted by Anders:

ML for Div 2 opening games:

Thames Valley $2.10 v King Country $1.65
Hawke's Bay $1.08 v East Coast $6.50
Wanganui $2.50 v Manawatu $1.45
Mid Canterbury $2.50 v Marlborough $1.45


How in gods name did East Coast get into the 2nd division ????
 

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I must admit I am not too flash on the lower divisions, due to them not being on TV, the lack of a spread to take advantage of, and as many of the odds posted are prohibitive to betting I have never bothered much. That being said if you are betting on them I would look to the short home dogs as the best bet for your money. Other than that my guess is probably a lot worse than yours !
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Good god!

Anders, you have way too much time on your hands !
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Just add a few thoughts of my own in a sec..

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Anders,

Thanks for the post on the mighty Horowhenua.

I had to laugh at the coaches comments "I am here to rebuild Horowhenua rugby". They have been going through a rebuilding phase for the last 89 years !!

It also said that there is no promotion-relegation this season. What is the story with this ??
 

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Auckland, probably a team to avoid spread wise, management structure is still dodgy and may be a bit too much pressure on them after a shocker of a S12 and an average NPC season last year. Good go against early on. May not make the top 4

Canterbury, probably the easiest draw, 4 home games to polish off the end of the season with the AB's back, and face Northland, Southland, BOP and Nth Harbour for the first five weeks. However a much overrated team, and good to bet against spread wise. Will make playoffs with ease.

North Harbour, just don't perform at all away from home and a terrible wet weather team. Won't make top 4.

Southland, another good home dog, may even win an away match this year.

Wellington, one name, Norm Hewitt, If he gets his act together as he did at the end of the season last year this is the team to beat, otherwise they will struggle even with the big names, lomu, cullen, holwell, on the wings (once they get back). Should make top 4.

Tarankai, good home team, however a few loose cannon's that regulary get sent to the sin bin. Mongrel can be good but it costs them games. Would love to see an o/u on the number of games they complete with a full 15 men. Made the top four last year, doubt they do this year.

BOP, new team, should be strong at home, but doubt they win more than 2-3 games.

Counties, have an easier schedule at home this year may be a team to back early on..

The others Anders seems to have covered.
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