NRL Rd15

Anders

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Rd 15 early thoughts:

Game 1) NZ Warriors v Northern Eagles, Auckland
Warriors -3.5

Not likely to play this game given my distaste for the predicability of the Warriors. Eagles aren't much better in that respect. Warriors upset the Eagles 24-16 away in rd 2, which gaves some clues to the woefullness of the Eagles after a first-up away win at Newcastle. After two awful performances, Warriors showed some spirit and defence in rd 14 away win v Raiders while the Eagles put an end to the Knights' long unbeaten run. Could be plenty of pts but the $1.50 for over44.5 isn't an appealing price.

Game 2) Newcastle Knights v Sydney Roosters, Newcastle
Knights $1.95 ML

A little surprising to see the home side which is four pts ahead of Sydney on the table and one that beat them 25-18 away in rd 2 as a small home dog. May be worth investigating further despite last week's loss to the Eagles and the continued absence of Joey Johns. Roosters saw off Wests Tigers in the 2nd half last weekend but are still under-achieving and conceding too many pts.
Total pt line 44.5 sees the Over at $1.65/Under at $2.10

Game 3) Canberra Raiders v Bulldogs, Sydney
Bulldogs -8.5

Bulldogs beat a hot Melbourne Storm team at home but were a tad fortunate; made the most of turnover possessions though. The Raiders were very flat in the loss to the Warriors and still seem to struggle with the coaching situation which has seen Mal Meninga usurped by Matthew Elliott.

Game 4) Penrith Panthers v Brisbane Broncos, Penrith
Panthers +6.5

EXCUSE ME!! Just +6.5!! This is the same Panthers side which conceded 54 v the Eels last weekend - not the first time this season they've conceded 50 either - and convinced me that their minor resurgence was a mirage. Yes, they scored 28 pts and worried the Eels for the first half but their defence is a virtual sieve. Now, with Ryan Girdler in the unfamiliar position of standoff, they're getting just over a converted try from a Broncos side without Gorden Tallis which ran up 50 v the Cowboys last weekend, and the Cowboys are just one pt behind the Panthers in the standings. Yes, the Panthers are at home, but there is no fear factor of their home ground with the current side. Broncos won the corresponding fixture in rd 2 38-22. They opened v the Cowboys at -16.5. Is this set-up really worth 10 pts off Brisbane's line? Can't see much less than the bubonic plague striking the visitors to put me off recommending a play on the Broncos giving the points.

Game 5) Nth Qld Cowboys v Melbourne Storm, Townsville
Cowboys +6.5

Yeah yeah; said it a million times before but the Storm are a totally different team from the one that loss a shocker in rd 2 at home v the Cowboys 28-32. The Cowboys came down to earth with a thump v the Broncos while the Storm should have beaten the Cowboys and will be kicking themselves for their costly errors. Tough call to go for a 2nd consecutive rd fave giving more than a try but favouring that thought at present.

Game 6) West Tigers v St George Illawarra Dragons, Leichardt Oval
Tigers +3.5

Tigers should be outclassed here as the Dragons are starting to find some improved form despite the away trip. Home team are a different outfit from the one that won rd 2 26-24 away; no Field, no MacGuiness, no Hopoate! Dragons would have been disappointed with their draw v the Sharks although they showed commendable spirit to come back and get a point.

Game 7) Sharks v Parramatta Eels, Cronulla
Sharks +3.5

Encouraging signs from the Sharks last week on the points-scoring front. Just 8 in the first half v the Dragons but Preston Campbell at halfback cut loose in the second spell as the opponents tired. The Eels ran n 2nd half tries at will v the Panthers but coach Brian Smith was rightly concerned at some awful defending. Should have been working hard on correcting that and the under 44.5 at $2.10 may be worth a wee look.

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Hi Anders,

I have just had a quick look at the NRL games this weekend and tend to agree with you on a few of these. At this stage I am favouring:

Brisbane -6.5
Melbourne -6.5
St G Illa -3.5
Parra -3.5 and under 44.5

I'll have a good look at these in the morning and post my plays.

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time for some home wins?

Home Points Average 25.76
Away Points Average 22.27
Total Points Average 48.02
Home Win % 50.0
Draw % 8.2
Away Win % 41.8
Over 36 Points % 74.5
Under 36 Points % 25.5
Over 40 Points % 61.2
Under 40 Points % 38.8
Over 44 Points % 54.1
Under 44 Points % 45.9
 

AussieVamp2

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Anders, on the Penrith thing - power rating is 19, so you might be right about the potential for flogging there
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01 Rugby League
Total Points O/u


NZWarior vs Nth Eagl - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option:12 - 24 - 36 - 48 - 60 - 72 - 84
Option
12
National Rugby League - Rnd15
NZWarior vs Nth Eagl - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 17:35, 01 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 12:25, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 46.5 $1.75
02 Under 46.5 $1.95






Newcstle vs Syd Rstr - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option: 12 -24 - 36 - 48 - 60 - 72 - 84
Option
24
National Rugby League - Rnd15
Newcstle vs Syd Rstr - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 19:35, 01 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 16:43, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 47.5 $1.85
02 Under 47.5 $1.85





Bulldogs vs Canberra - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option: 12 - 24 -36 - 48 - 60 - 72 - 84
Option
36
National Rugby League - Rnd15
Bulldogs vs Canberra - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 17:35, 02 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 16:43, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 47.5 $1.85
02 Under 47.5 $1.85





Penrith vs Brisbane - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option: 12 - 24 - 36 -48 - 60 - 72 - 84
Option
48
National Rugby League - Rnd15
Penrith vs Brisbane - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 19:35, 02 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 16:44, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 47.5 $1.85
02 Under 47.5 $1.85





Nth Qld vs Melbrne - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option: 12 - 24 - 36 - 48 -60 - 72 - 84
Option
60
National Rugby League - Rnd15
Nth Qld vs Melbrne - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 19:35, 02 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 16:44, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 49.5 $1.85
02 Under 49.5 $1.85





Sharks vs Paramtta - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option: 12 - 24 - 36 - 48 - 60 -72 - 84
Option
72
National Rugby League - Rnd15
Sharks vs Paramtta - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 14:05, 03 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 12:01, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 48.5 $1.85
02 Under 48.5 $1.85





West Tig vs StGeorge - Total Points O/u
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Go To Option: 12 - 24 - 36 - 48 - 60 - 72 -84 -
Option
84
National Rugby League - Rnd15
West Tig vs StGeorge - Total Points O/u
Scheduled Closing: 14:05, 03 Jun 2001 AEST

Prices at: 16:44, 31 May 2001 AEST
No. Selection Price
01 Over 49.5 $1.85
02 Under 49.5 $1.85





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AussieVamp2

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so if eeling under, might want to consider sportstab?

also, all those draws, Megasports the place for moneylines on favorites currently it seems!
 

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Cheers for all that AV; very helpful.
Maybe right about the home wins too - can't take all road chalks - so see play below
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Game 2) Newcastle Knights v Sydney Roosters
Newcastle $1.95 ML/pick 'em

Tossed this one over for a long time and will go with a play on the Knights; just think there are too many angles that offer us some value not to play them. Certainly the Roosters are a dangerous opponent, with Fittler and Fletcher creating openings for the likes of Minichello, Hegarty, Sing and Phillips to exploit.
But they've failed to flatter so far this year and continued that trend last week when they ground out a win over the low-quality Tigers in the second spell. The Roosters had to make 10 more tackles than the Tigers and missed 32 tackles (to 20) to continue a trend which sees them missing 30 or more every week recently. The Knights had their unbeaten run stopped last weekend v the Northern Eagles when a last-minute kick hit post and crossbar but stayed out. The poor 58% completion rate from the Knights hurt them most, but that area has previously been a strong aspect of their winning run, averaging 75% over six matches previously. The Knights took a host of fans to the Eagles' game only to disappoint them and will be very keen to make amends in the cauldron of Marathon Stadium. Even without John, Newcastle can run up a decent score if the Roosters defence continues to not turn up. As a slight 'dog, the fired-up home team and equal league-leaders offer the punter value tonight.
PLAY NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS ML OR PICK 'EM

GLTA
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I have looked at this weekends NRL games in a bit more detail now and basically I have come up with the same plays as what I initially thought.

Melbourne -6.5 (Sportodds)
St G Illa -2.5 (Sportodds)
Parramatta -2.5 (Sportodds)

Parramatta vs Sharks Under 48.5 (Sportstab)

Anders/Beast2,

Good luck with Newcastle tonight. I can see why you have backed them but I have opted to stay clear of this one. I have plenty of respect for the Roosters and they often pull out a big game when they really need to.

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Anders

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Sharp thoughts on the Roosters Cartman - they win 18-8 on the road
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So much for trying to get a home winner before jumping on the road chalks
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2 plays tonite; will try and post write-ups later -

Broncos -6.5
Storm -6.5

GLTA
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Game 4) Penrith Panthers v Brisbane Broncos, Penrith
Panthers +6.5

Even though the Broncos aren't the all-conquering force on the road that they are at home, hard to envisage Penrith halting the Brisbane juggernaut here. Coach Wayne Bennett has been keen to emphasis how his squad may struggle between State of Origin matches given their massive Queensland commitments but that certainly wasn't the case last weekend when they massacred the Cowboys. The Broncos are deep in talent ie Origin One hero Carl Webb will come off the bench for them today and have emerging stars in Lote Tuqiri, Chris Walker, Ashley Harrison, Bradley Meyers and Petero Civinoceva to compensate for the absence of imspirational skipper Gorden Tallis. Their completion rate is outstanding - their worst effort this season was 63% and they achieved an 80% mark v the Cowboys, with 11 line breaks. Missed tackles last week tally of 24 was their second-worst effort for the season, giving an indication of how good their defence is too, and errors have rarely reached double figures recently. In contrast, the Panthers regularly miss between 25-35 tackles each week. Ryan Girdler wil try and give them guidance from the unfamiliar position of standoff but once the Broncos match the home team up front, their quick and powerful backs should give Penrith a host of problems.
PLAY BRONCOS -6.5

Game 5) Nth Qld Cowboys v Melbourne Storm, Townsville
Cowboys +6.5

I know, another road fave, but the Cowboys aren't hugely frightening at home while many of the Storm's best efforts this season have been away from Melbourne. The Cowboys rarely manage to complete 70% of their sets of six tackles to put themselves under regular pressureand missed 40 tackles last weekend as their defence continues to fall away in recent rounds. The Storm have put up great numbers since rd 8, always completing over 70% and offload the ball probably better than any other team in the comp. Just one game with double-figure errors in the last six too. The Bulldogs made the Storm pay dearly for the mistakes they made last weekend, along with some costly penalties given away. If the visitors can eliminate those factors, their big forward pack should set a notable platform for Matt Orford and Scott Hill to spark their backline against a weakened Cowboys team who now face reality after the brief boost when Murray Hurst took over from Tim Sheens as coach.
PLAY STORM -6.5

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Wish they showed these games in our neck of the woods,the way you guys cap these games they sound like bigtime serious action!Good luck to all
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Anders

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NRL on Planet Krypton sounds like a fine idea to me
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I know some guys have been able to watch the Super 12 on Fox I think; others here in your neck of the universe may be able to help Superman.

The NRL can be pretty unpredictable at times but spread betting is still a relatively foreign concept to a big percentage of punters Down Under and so we're trying our hardest to see if the books are also a little off the mark
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well, home teams still don't want to win it seems!

Regression to mean from last year at 2/3?

If this year 50/50ish that would be about sensible over last 2 years.
 

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Broncos didn't win by 19, but I guess 13 splits the difference between that and the line
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Anders

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Last night's results:
Penrith 16 Broncos 29
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Cowboys 24 Storm 38
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Got lucky with the Broncos; up 14-4 at the break but the Panthers were the better side in the second half and drew level at 16-16 with 11 minutes to play. Then Girdler dropped the ball over the line when he went to put the Panthers ahead. With six minutes to go, Lockyer kicked a field goal which gave me hope for the hook at 6.5 and this hope was blessed when Stu Kelly went over with 2 minutes left and Michael de Vere converted for a 7-pt lead. Just to rub salt into the Panthers wounds, the Broncos scored again on the final whistle.


Today's play:

Game 7) The Sharks v Parramatta Eels, Cronulla
Sharks +3.5

Going to play the total here. Parramatta somehow conceded 28 pts v the Panthers last weekend. I believe the chief factor in that disappointing display from a normally excellent defensive team was because their mindset was " it doesn't matter how many we concede, we'll just score more at the other end" and they ran up over 50 pts. They know they can't afford to entertain such thoughts today v the Sharks, and with a perfectionist coach like Brian Smith still fuming over their defensive display last weekend, expect a much more focussed effort from the visitors. The Sharks managed 26 pts last weekend in a draw v the Dragons when Preston Campbell let loose in the second spell after scores were tied at 8-8 at the break. The Eels will target the elusive scrumhalf as the spark for the Sharks offence. Previous rds saw the Sharks score 16, 6, and 16 pts respectively and they will again miss the added thrust of injured fullback David Peachey. Both teams have solid stats in the areas we need. Missed tackles for the Sharks are inconsistent but they should bounce back from the patchy effort v the Dragons, while the Eels rarely venture over the 20-mark in missed tackles. This clash in rd 2 finished 13-12 to the Sharks. Unders are hard to bet with confidence in the NRL but often come in bunches during one rd. We've had 3 of 5 matches go under so far; with the Sharks starting goalkicker Jason Ferris on the bench and a tight, fiery clash expected, we have enough to justify a play here.
PLAY UNDER 48.5 PTS
 

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anybody having fun with the middle on the broncos game would not have been happy then!
 

Anders

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Today's results:

Sharks 6 Eels 36
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Tigers 22 Dragons 26

Nice work Cartman buddy; 4-0
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on the NRL this weekend. Guess we made up some ground on our AFL picks
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Weekend: 3-1 (75%)
Season to date: 31-23 (57.14%)

Overall year to date:

AFL: 17-15 (53.13%)
NRL: 31-23 (57.41%)
SUPER 12 (completed): 27-13 (67.50%)

Overall: 75-51 (59.52%)
 

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What a weekend as far as the NRL goes with the group record a crazy 10-2 (84%).

Round 15 Results:

Cartman88 4-0 Unbelievable
Anders 3-1 Excellent
Beast2 3-1 Excellent

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