Obama press conference

[Chadman]

One thing I can say for sure - Obama did a terrific job at the press conference tonight, explaining the reasoning behind much of the plan, and answering the questions put to him. Major Garrett, of course, tried to blow him up with a ridiculous question about an unspecific Biden comment from last week and came off looking like, well, a Faux News "reporter." But, I digress on that subject...

He answered specifically how this plan can be measured in the future, what to assess success or failure by, and his logic in why the plan was important. He established credibility and gave future critics the ammunition to come at him in the future. He addressed every question put to him, except for one or two on issues that he had not read yet or been apprised of, was incredibly thorough and detailed in his answers. He sounded knowledgeable about every issue. He sounded Presidential, sensible, and realistic. He explained things - why things or different ways to look at issues are important. He was engaging. He knew the people he was dealing with, called them by name, handled every situation diplomatically and fairly completely.

He reminded me why I voted for him, and did actually give me hope of why this thing is happening and might be at least in part necessary. Do I agree with all of it? No. He said he didn't either. Which is unique, and refreshing.

He was good, and I'm glad he's the new face of our country. We stepped up in CLASS tonight. The proof will of course be in the pudding, and it's a worrisome situation. But he did his job tonight, and that is a step in the right direction, at least.

Again - this thread is about his Press Conference and his performance. If anyone listened to it, I'd like their opinion. I know what some of you think, without even hearing it - but opinions are welcome on how the Press Conference was received.

 

[djv]

I agree. His answer were not the little cute short why did you ask me that. This we saw so much with last Pres. Been Long time since we had someone go so deep into his answers.

 

[THE KOD]

I was amazed at how he took the time to answer the question asked and I mentioned that to my wife.

Bush blew through the questions with so much rhetoric you never really knew what he was saying. And thats the way he wanted it.

The one that got me was that old bag Helen Thomas.

Who has nukes in the middle east. I think this was a obvious spasm to get him to say Israel.

not sure but if it was some trap question it was petty. Helen looks like death warmed over in a red cardigan.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

This is probably the message that should have been issued 2 weeks ago, but instead the conversation was about condoms. I'm proud he's my President.

 

[THE KOD]

how many of us knew that he had met with 911 familys recently ?

the guy has put in more hours in 3 weeks than George W put in in five months.

anyway that wasnt reported and I am surprised.

that shows me alot there. He should be meeting with him. He should be explaining about Gitmo and why he is doing what he is doing.

I am proud to have a President that I know will not try to flush America down the toilet for their own pathetic money grubbing gains.

 

[jer-z jock]

how many of us knew that he had met with 911 familys recently ?

that wasnt reported.

that shows me alot there.

I am proud to have a President that I know will not try to flush America down the toilet for their own pathetic money grubbing gains.

Shouldn't he have took time to meet with families of 911? If he didn't open those terroist camps while he was an Indonesian citizen practicing radical Islamic culture this would of never happened, Clinton should of occupied Iraq instead of getting blowjobs.
the best part is Bush has the terroist so scared we still haven't had another attack on American soil!!
sorry fellas this thread had too much goody goody going on in here...

missed the conference tonight but sounds like Obama is getting back on track...sad part may be wether it's because he's a democrat or maybe because he's black or just because there are other views that differ from his and "our" idea of a "Better America" alot of people won't allow this president to succeed and really unite or try to help solve the problems of our country...as the saying goes you can't teach and old dog new tricks...how long into the term will it be before something happens (good or bad) that this guy shows he a different type of character and man then what we were used to and what we've been accustomed to in the whitehouse? I think there are so many more better days ahead....:0corn

 

[THE KOD]

a "Better America" alot of people won't allow this president to succeed and really unite or try to help solve the problems of our country...as the saying goes you can't teach and old dog new tricks...how long into the term will it be before something happens (good or bad) that this guy shows he a different type of character and man then what we were used to and what we've been accustomed to in the whitehouse? I think there are so many more better days ahead....:0corn

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[Sun Tzu]

The whole thing was a joke. Just make a speech. I wont even get into the substance of it - it was so transparently staged. He is calling out the names of the reporters _all his allies-then looking around the room to find them. He sure didnt want a tough question for which he hadnt pre-planned. So of course he addressed the questions - he knew what they were. It couldnt have been more obvious.

And it was reported quite a bit that he met with the 911 families (those that chose to) as well as the COle bombings - he did it the same day his DOJ let the Cole bombing mastermind off the hook.

 

[THE KOD]

The whole thing was a joke. Just make a speech. I wont even get into the substance of it - it was so transparently staged. He is calling out the names of the reporters _all his allies-then looking around the room to find them. He sure didnt want a tough question for which he hadnt pre-planned. So of course he addressed the questions - he knew what they were. It couldnt have been more obvious.

And it was reported quite a bit that he met with the 911 families (those that chose to) as well as the COle bombings - he did it the same day his DOJ let the Cole bombing mastermind off the hook.

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Obama had a list because unlike George W he dont even know these fawking reporters yet.

George W is the one that used to call on the same old same old with the same stupid softball quesitons.

your a joke Sun Fu and you know it

 

[Sun Tzu]

No he called out names and then looked for the reporters. It was pre-decided whose questions were coming and in what order. It was quite obvious, just like it should be obvious I dont give a damn what you think. He knows who all of those people were-hell I knew who all but one was.

And sorry but those were softballs -and yes almost alwys are very every preseident at every press conference. That's why press conferences are almost universally a joke.

 

[Sun Tzu]

One thing I can say for sure - Obama did a terrific job at the press conference tonight, explaining the reasoning behind much of the plan, and answering the questions put to him. Major Garrett, of course, tried to blow him up with a ridiculous question about an unspecific Biden comment from last week and came off looking like, well, a Faux News "reporter." But, I digress on that subject...

He answered specifically how this plan can be measured in the future, what to assess success or failure by, and his logic in why the plan was important. He established credibility and gave future critics the ammunition to come at him in the future. He addressed every question put to him, except for one or two on issues that he had not read yet or been apprised of, was incredibly thorough and detailed in his answers. He sounded knowledgeable about every issue. He sounded Presidential, sensible, and realistic. He explained things - why things or different ways to look at issues are important. He was engaging. He knew the people he was dealing with, called them by name, handled every situation diplomatically and fairly completely.

He reminded me why I voted for him, and did actually give me hope of why this thing is happening and might be at least in part necessary. Do I agree with all of it? No. He said he didn't either. Which is unique, and refreshing.

He was good, and I'm glad he's the new face of our country. We stepped up in CLASS tonight. The proof will of course be in the pudding, and it's a worrisome situation. But he did his job tonight, and that is a step in the right direction, at least.

Again - this thread is about his Press Conference and his performance. If anyone listened to it, I'd like their opinion. I know what some of you think, without even hearing it - but opinions are welcome on how the Press Conference was received.

He did do a good job of trying to sell his case...if nobody bothers to look at the substance of the bill. There were some things he said that simply arent true - pork and earmarks. He also admitted there are provisions that wont create jobs but said "we will deal with those later." What does that mean - show some leadership and demand they be cut now.

And as far as I have seen there isnt a single economist that has said his plan will create 4 million jobs. They Democratically controlled Congressional Budget Office predicts less than half that.

The fact is he really should have taken the initiative from Day 1 to draft the bill. He didnt becaus ethen he can blame Congress for the extra stuff...just like they dont need Republican support to pass the bill but he wants it to shield blame if it fails...just like the TARP nonsense when Pelosi killed her own bill because the majority of Republicans were voting against it.

I do like his confidence. I do think contrary to my typical beliefs the government needs to get involved. But this plan does more harm than good.

 

[mabus]

Bush had a list of reporters just like Obama...pretty standard practice from what I understand.
Makes sense...i would rather have it that way than having reporters raising hands and yelling like school children trying to get attention...
I mean, presidents know which reporters speak for which organization, and the tilt of that organization; so its not like they are calling people off of the street

I watched the speech and Q&A. I thought the speech sounded like a campaign stump speech. I thought the Q&A sounded like any other Q&A-answer the questions you want to answer, BS around the ones that you dont want to answer-except Obama is more articulate than bush or clinton

 

[Sun Tzu]

Bush had a list of reporters just like Obama...pretty standard practice from what I understand.
Makes sense...i would rather have it that way than having reporters raising hands and yelling like school children trying to get attention...
I mean, presidents know which reporters speak for which organization, and the tilt of that organization; so its not like they are calling people off of the street

I watched the speech and Q&A. I thought the speech sounded like a campaign stump speech. I thought the Q&A sounded like any other Q&A-answer the questions you want to answer, BS around the ones that you dont want to answer-except Obama is more articulate than bush or clinton

Thats why I said "just make a speech." And also why I ddint understand the praise of how this came off as if it wasnt all preplanned and he just took questions in the dark. I actually found Clinton to be better simply because he seemed more natural and "honest" in his answers 9did I say that) - Obama just strikes me as too planned. You see him do something like the Rick Warren interview and he is a disaster. Clinton could BS his way through any setting. Bush only looked good debating Al Gore.

 

[Chadman]

The names thing was a very small thing for me, but the thing is he went back and said the names in his explanations, reaffirming the person he was talking to. Always a strong thing to do in dealing with people.

The questions were not all softball questions, some were pointed and specific, and meaning to try to get a direct answer. People will take what they want from his answers, but he did a good job in taking time and going in-depth.

Just read your comments about my post, Sun. I took from his comment about dealing with provisions later, that those were issues that were taken out of the bill after dealing with republicans in the initial presentation to them - he agreed they were not job creators, took them out, and they will hopefully be dealt with later. Just my take on it, but I was listening to that at the time. He did show leadership initially - he cut those, or many of them.

The thing is, you can definitely measure the success of this and your questioning of the 4 million jobs. He said that is the first way to measure the success of it. So, we'll see. Most would not address that so specifically. He said that is his #1 priority, and mentioned that several times. So, it seems a pretty long branch to walk out on if he wasn't confident that would turn out to be the result.

I found his comment about pork and earmarks curious, too. Saying that there is not one earmark in the package seemed strange to me - but again, it's all in how you talk about something. I'm sure there will be much talk about that one in the days ahead.

The strong thing - you mentioned his good job of selling - was how he tied some of the arguable parts of the bill, medical, renewables, infrastructure, etc., to moving us to being more financially solid in the future, while providing jobs now. Nicely done, IMO.

 

[Sun Tzu]

The names thing was a very small thing for me, but the thing is he went back and said the names in his explanations, reaffirming the person he was talking to. Always a strong thing to do in dealing with people.

The questions were not all softball questions, some were pointed and specific, and meaning to try to get a direct answer. People will take what they want from his answers, but he did a good job in taking time and going in-depth.

Just read your comments about my post, Sun. I took from his comment about dealing with provisions later, that those were issues that were taken out of the bill after dealing with republicans in the initial presentation to them - he agreed they were not job creators, took them out, and they will hopefully be dealt with later. Just my take on it, but I was listening to that at the time. He did show leadership initially - he cut those, or many of them.

The thing is, you can definitely measure the success of this and your questioning of the 4 million jobs. He said that is the first way to measure the success of it. So, we'll see. Most would not address that so specifically. He said that is his #1 priority, and mentioned that several times. So, it seems a pretty long branch to walk out on if he wasn't confident that would turn out to be the result.

I found his comment about pork and earmarks curious, too. Saying that there is not one earmark in the package seemed strange to me - but again, it's all in how you talk about something. I'm sure there will be much talk about that one in the days ahead.

The strong thing - you mentioned his good job of selling - was how he tied some of the arguable parts of the bill, medical, renewables, infrastructure, etc., to moving us to being more financially solid in the future, while providing jobs now. Nicely done, IMO.

the fact is you cant really determine what jobs if any are saved buy this bill - he used those words on purpose - we will certainly see some funny math from both sides down the road. He know the bill wont create anywhere near 4 million jobs - thus the "saved jobs" notion.

 

[gjn23]

was that a press conference or a campaing stop with plenty of small speeches?

again, everybody is mezmorized by the delivery and person delivering the message and NOT THE ACTUAL MESSAGE

 

[Chadman]

A fair point, but it certainly will be easy to show if things continue the way they have been - we'd easily not create nor save those jobs. Considering in the past month we created next to none, and lost more than a half million, a focus on jobs is a good thing. Both sides will certainly have a different opinion on all of it.

Creating half of 4 million jobs would be a good thing, and if the economy can be turned around some in the coming months - even by next year, there's no doubt that many jobs will be saved.

 

[Chadman]

was that a press conference or a campaing stop with plenty of small speeches?

again, everybody is mezmorized by the delivery and person delivering the message and NOT THE ACTUAL MESSAGE

I was not mesmerized by any of it, but I was better informed and encouraged by it. THE ACTUAL MESSAGE was good and well presented from a content standpoint.

Those who do not like Obama are ignoring one important part of all of this - the fact that is can be considered mesmerizing and motivational makes much more possible in many areas of what we have to deal with moving forward.

 

[Sun Tzu]

A fair point, but it certainly will be easy to show if things continue the way they have been - we'd easily not create nor save those jobs. Considering in the past month we created next to none, and lost more than a half million, a focus on jobs is a good thing. Both sides will certainly have a different opinion on all of it.

Creating half of 4 million jobs would be a good thing, and if the economy can be turned around some in the coming months - even by next year, there's no doubt that many jobs will be saved.

Chadman a "fair market" conservative would say that simple economics and natural economic principals and cycles will impact things regardless of what is done. If next month there are no job losses it wont be the Plan - heck he even tried CYA by saying he expects improvement NEXT YEAR. A year or two down the road, funny math, etc - there will be no way to know. But I guarantee you regardless this fuzzy notion of "saved jobs" will be touted as success.

 

[hedgehog]

This is probably the message that should have been issued 2 weeks ago, but instead the conversation was about condoms. I'm proud he's my President.

:scared marxist?I will be glad when he is not my President, hell by then I will not have any money and will have to go on welfare with 90% of the population. Taxes will be 90% of what you make, fuck this tax and spend how about cut shit and balance the budget.