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Oh He is doing GREAT.....But I am an illegal and have no health care and live on food stamps and need you to foot my bill when I go to the ER. Of course I take all my $ which is earned under the table back to Mexico,,,thats our 2nd highest rate of income just under oil. I was thining of having a baby so I will sneak bk into the USA and have it so our baby will be LEGAL and we can cash in on all of you hard working Americans when we need health card, free education or how about this...when my child is older all his friends who are illegal can get free in state tuition to attend college. We are getting closer to taking over America as our billboards are in spanish, schools must teach our children in spanish (even though Americans are faultering but who gives a fuk) we get free health care, food stamps......GOD DAMN EVERY THING IS FREE JUST GET OVER HERE....and OBAMA WANTS US HERE.... WE ARE GONNA GET AMNESTY AND FEED OFF THE USA. WE DONT CARE IF WE BANKRUPT UR AZZ>>>> U OWE US........( Wake the FUK up America)
The only thing I can say I like about him is a passion for sports.
The sad thing is a sports minded guy should be able to throw a baseball better than a girl.
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The rumour is Kenya.
I'd say +666 based on the different arguments I've heard.
Anyways, it's tough to like any U.S. president, really.
The politics down there is totally big-money-interest oriented. Both parties. Up and down the aisles.
Besides, look at the freakin' mess he inherited.
It's like he's come in bottom of the 7th, already down by 4 runs, bases loaded none out with Texeira and then A-Rod coming up, his manager, pitching coach and hitting coach have all been tossed (along with the bat-boy), his best two hitters both got killed by beanings and he's the last man av from the pen because the other bp dudes were beheaded by al-kaline (yes, I may use that one to death).
Doesn't matter how good he is, i.e, he's in a fucked situation.
Personally I don't care for him...promises, promises, promises.
Same shit with all politicians.
Take Harper, if you'd prefer.
I'll trade.
I'd say +666 based on the different arguments I've heard.
Anyways, it's tough to like any U.S. president, really.
The politics down there is totally big-money-interest oriented. Both parties. Up and down the aisles.
Besides, look at the freakin' mess he inherited.
It's like he's come in bottom of the 7th, already down by 4 runs, bases loaded none out with Texeira and then A-Rod coming up, his manager, pitching coach and hitting coach have all been tossed (along with the bat-boy), his best two hitters both got killed by beanings and he's the last man av from the pen because the other bp dudes were beheaded by al-kaline (yes, I may use that one to death).
Doesn't matter how good he is, i.e, he's in a fucked situation.
Personally I don't care for him...promises, promises, promises.
Same shit with all politicians.
Take Harper, if you'd prefer.
I'll trade.
Ditto, lots of things to disagree with him, but considering he never had a chance, ok by me so far. Hard to say after one year.
Do I love everything about Obama.. No.. But I will say.. I think the man is genuine and is trying as hard as he can, and just like the Ex said in his previous post.. the man has a huge stack of cards against him. At least this man has something the last president doesn't have and that is BRAINS.. I am giving the man a chance..
I always wonder where those 30% that think country is headed in right direction come from 
Who was it that said ==Insanity is doing same thing over and over and expecting diff result.?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-illinois-20100411,0,1505174.story
The Illinois spiral
History often occurs with such bombast that we couldn't miss it if we tried: a climactic battle, a pivotal court decree, the inauguration of an African-American president. Other times, history evolves quietly via the Law of Accumulation: Little things add up.
Illinois is suffering one of those subtler but game-changing passages today. Our state is in a downward spiral that, yes, still can be reversed. First, though, we have to admit that we are not the Illinois that was ? the muscular producer and processor and manufacturer that could stare a stranger in the eye and convincingly boast: Move here and prosper!
Few of us, or our ancestors, gravitated to this state for its prairie scenery or bipolar climate. Illinois instead promised near-unrivaled opportunity: its rich soil, its wealth of industries, its human hustle frenetic to make a buck.
Today, though, we are losing employers. Nearly half a million of our jobs are gone. We export many of our educated young
people to futures out of state.
We can wait, paralyzed, and hope that economic recovery eventually means full employment recovery. Or we can make structural changes now that would welcome the makers of jobs.
We need to lower costs. Our governance infrastructure has become overgrown and overpriced. We have 7,000 often redundant governments, far more than any other state. We populate those governments with armies of employees, and give them duties ? some essential, some make-work. Many politicians of both parties enlist these workers as their allies in a cozy paradigm: If you help us win re-election, we will reward you with adequate salaries today ? and fabulous retirement benefits tomorrow.
Those pols treat the public sector with fawning reverence while ignoring, or even scorning, a private sector that supplies their lifeblood revenues. Why so? Because the pols and their allies have a good thing going, and no incentive to disrupt it. So, unlike in scrappier states, there is precious little talk in Illinois of curtailing teacher tenure, or reducing benefits for current public employees, or capping government expenditures, or exterminating townships and other costly relics, or demolishing obsolete institutions, or ...
Recession, though, has forced a reckoning: Our shrinking and salary-squeezed private sector work force cannot adequately support many of our state's households ? let alone sustain our antiquated overlays of taxing bodies.
This should be a time of tremendous opportunity for leaders who, rather than hiding from recession, exploit it to reinvent Illinois. To radically reshape the state's present and its future. To capitalize on employers' problems in other high-cost states by making Illinois their low-cost place to do business. To grow jobs.
Instead, our Statehouse brims with defensive, small-think pols hoping to survive another election.
We speak of this Illinois spiral not as fatalistic Chicken Littles but as true believers who fiercely don't want this to be New Michigan or New California. Those places tried to stem their declines by marshaling taxation, regulation and future spending obligations in ways that left many employers thinking: Hmm. Expense and hassle. Plenty of other states would rather have these jobs.
Employers tend to be harder-headed in deciding where to invest their money than our lawmakers are in spending other people's money. The employers see Illinois pols dithering through a crisis, inviting an even more bleak future with their refusal to reform government spending and reduce what it costs to have a payroll in Illinois:
? You haven't heard Illinois leaders confront a November warning from advisers to the legislature's economic think tank ? the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability ? that while half the states would recover from their job losses by mid-2013, "Illinois would not recover its peak employment level until 2014 or 2015." In the meantime, " ? 10 states, including Illinois, are expected to suffer unemployment rates in excess of 9 percent."
? Nor have you heard Illinois leaders, in their to and fro over an income tax hike, confront a 2009 report by the American Legislative Exchange Council: A decade's worth of hard data suggests that states with no individual income tax created 89 percent more jobs, and had 32 percent faster personal income growth, than did states with the highest income tax rates. The report also analyzed 15 policy factors that influence a state's growth prospects ? tax burdens, debt service, tort climate, mandated minimum wage, spending limits if any ? and ranked Illinois' economic outlook as an alarming 44th in the U.S.
? Nor have you heard Illinois leaders confront this state's devastating rank in job creation, 48th, and ask how they can be friendlier to present and potential employers. Illinois ? with its overspending, its borrowing and its worst-in-America pension crisis ? faces massive obligations that give potential employers pause. Add to this toxic mix Illinois' high cost of workers compensation and its 49th-in-the-U.S. bond ratings. How surprised, then, are we that since 1990 Illinois has underperformed the U.S. in job growth?
???
Illinois needs a new paradigm.
Illinois needs leaders who unwind the terrible indebtedness that lawmakers past and present have bequeathed to taxpayers and their grandchildren.
Illinois needs an end to the mutual admiration society of public officials and public employees coddling one another.
Illinois needs fewer governments and, in Springfield, one government scared straight by so much lost employment.
Most of all, Illinois needs leaders who see that, across this nation, concerns about the public sector's size, cost and reach is the domestic issue that most rivets Americans.
We, like Illinois lawmakers frozen in delay and denial, hope recovery creates enough jobs to rescue struggling families and to fund crucial priorities. Unlike the pols, though, we're not content only to hope. We urge them not to flee Springfield until they've made spending and structural reforms to attract employers.
Above all, we expect voters exercised about education and other causes to elect lawmakers who'll end the Illinois spiral. Watch this little calendar:
Who was it that said ==Insanity is doing same thing over and over and expecting diff result.?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-illinois-20100411,0,1505174.story
The Illinois spiral
History often occurs with such bombast that we couldn't miss it if we tried: a climactic battle, a pivotal court decree, the inauguration of an African-American president. Other times, history evolves quietly via the Law of Accumulation: Little things add up.
Illinois is suffering one of those subtler but game-changing passages today. Our state is in a downward spiral that, yes, still can be reversed. First, though, we have to admit that we are not the Illinois that was ? the muscular producer and processor and manufacturer that could stare a stranger in the eye and convincingly boast: Move here and prosper!
Few of us, or our ancestors, gravitated to this state for its prairie scenery or bipolar climate. Illinois instead promised near-unrivaled opportunity: its rich soil, its wealth of industries, its human hustle frenetic to make a buck.
Today, though, we are losing employers. Nearly half a million of our jobs are gone. We export many of our educated young
people to futures out of state.
We can wait, paralyzed, and hope that economic recovery eventually means full employment recovery. Or we can make structural changes now that would welcome the makers of jobs.
We need to lower costs. Our governance infrastructure has become overgrown and overpriced. We have 7,000 often redundant governments, far more than any other state. We populate those governments with armies of employees, and give them duties ? some essential, some make-work. Many politicians of both parties enlist these workers as their allies in a cozy paradigm: If you help us win re-election, we will reward you with adequate salaries today ? and fabulous retirement benefits tomorrow.
Those pols treat the public sector with fawning reverence while ignoring, or even scorning, a private sector that supplies their lifeblood revenues. Why so? Because the pols and their allies have a good thing going, and no incentive to disrupt it. So, unlike in scrappier states, there is precious little talk in Illinois of curtailing teacher tenure, or reducing benefits for current public employees, or capping government expenditures, or exterminating townships and other costly relics, or demolishing obsolete institutions, or ...
Recession, though, has forced a reckoning: Our shrinking and salary-squeezed private sector work force cannot adequately support many of our state's households ? let alone sustain our antiquated overlays of taxing bodies.
This should be a time of tremendous opportunity for leaders who, rather than hiding from recession, exploit it to reinvent Illinois. To radically reshape the state's present and its future. To capitalize on employers' problems in other high-cost states by making Illinois their low-cost place to do business. To grow jobs.
Instead, our Statehouse brims with defensive, small-think pols hoping to survive another election.
We speak of this Illinois spiral not as fatalistic Chicken Littles but as true believers who fiercely don't want this to be New Michigan or New California. Those places tried to stem their declines by marshaling taxation, regulation and future spending obligations in ways that left many employers thinking: Hmm. Expense and hassle. Plenty of other states would rather have these jobs.
Employers tend to be harder-headed in deciding where to invest their money than our lawmakers are in spending other people's money. The employers see Illinois pols dithering through a crisis, inviting an even more bleak future with their refusal to reform government spending and reduce what it costs to have a payroll in Illinois:
? You haven't heard Illinois leaders confront a November warning from advisers to the legislature's economic think tank ? the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability ? that while half the states would recover from their job losses by mid-2013, "Illinois would not recover its peak employment level until 2014 or 2015." In the meantime, " ? 10 states, including Illinois, are expected to suffer unemployment rates in excess of 9 percent."
? Nor have you heard Illinois leaders, in their to and fro over an income tax hike, confront a 2009 report by the American Legislative Exchange Council: A decade's worth of hard data suggests that states with no individual income tax created 89 percent more jobs, and had 32 percent faster personal income growth, than did states with the highest income tax rates. The report also analyzed 15 policy factors that influence a state's growth prospects ? tax burdens, debt service, tort climate, mandated minimum wage, spending limits if any ? and ranked Illinois' economic outlook as an alarming 44th in the U.S.
? Nor have you heard Illinois leaders confront this state's devastating rank in job creation, 48th, and ask how they can be friendlier to present and potential employers. Illinois ? with its overspending, its borrowing and its worst-in-America pension crisis ? faces massive obligations that give potential employers pause. Add to this toxic mix Illinois' high cost of workers compensation and its 49th-in-the-U.S. bond ratings. How surprised, then, are we that since 1990 Illinois has underperformed the U.S. in job growth?
???
Illinois needs a new paradigm.
Illinois needs leaders who unwind the terrible indebtedness that lawmakers past and present have bequeathed to taxpayers and their grandchildren.
Illinois needs an end to the mutual admiration society of public officials and public employees coddling one another.
Illinois needs fewer governments and, in Springfield, one government scared straight by so much lost employment.
Most of all, Illinois needs leaders who see that, across this nation, concerns about the public sector's size, cost and reach is the domestic issue that most rivets Americans.
We, like Illinois lawmakers frozen in delay and denial, hope recovery creates enough jobs to rescue struggling families and to fund crucial priorities. Unlike the pols, though, we're not content only to hope. We urge them not to flee Springfield until they've made spending and structural reforms to attract employers.
Above all, we expect voters exercised about education and other causes to elect lawmakers who'll end the Illinois spiral. Watch this little calendar:
DTB
From that read, my take is our lawmakers don't have the guts to face the problems. Not sure what it has to do with any president, past or present.
From that read, my take is our lawmakers don't have the guts to face the problems. Not sure what it has to do with any president, past or present.
