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Why Im on Princeton- Princeton Starts 2 Seniors 2 Juniors and a soph- very experienced team playing a team that is very talented but very inexperienced. Why is this important especially in this game. Well 1 they run a offence that kentuckys style of d and tempo is just not condusive for. this princeton o takes the air out of the ball and does not turn it over. Also shoots a pretty good % and shoots a great FT %. Now Kentucky does well in a uptempo transition type game. to do that they will need to cause turnovers and pressure the ball. the problem with that is teams that run these princeton Offences- if there good at running them get alot of great looks and back door looks-very tough to get young guys like kentucky to prepare for a team like this- now maybe kentucky dictates the tempo- doubt it-
 

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the line came out at 132 and dropped to 131 right away - if the bookmakers thought Kent was going to control the tempo we would of had a opener of 135-136 and it would be going up. We are catching 6 pos. here in a low scoring game. I see a 64-61 Type game.
 

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Why i like St johns - Gonzagas out of conf play this year was pretty bad. they did well in there conf but that was beyond weak this year also. People say St marys should of gotten in - i do not agree -loosing to Utah State at home killed that chance. You have 4 seniors on this team -and a great tourny coach- this team plays better d and is tougher - gonzaga has a hard time with physical teams -there long upfront but are soft. there offence has looked good against very week d's. but against physical teams-kstate,wash state,illini,sdstate,memphis all loosers- they did beat baylor aphysical team -but baylor turned the ball over 18 times and got in foul trouble. St johns is going to be very physical and pressure the perimeter with hard nose d.Gonzagas transition D is piss poor also. The seniors and lavin (a great Motivation guy) they win by 8
 

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Why i like St johns - Gonzagas out of conf play this year was pretty bad. they did well in there conf but that was beyond weak this year also. People say St marys should of gotten in - i do not agree -loosing to Utah State at home killed that chance. You have 4 seniors on this team -and a great tourny coach- this team plays better d and is tougher - gonzaga has a hard time with physical teams -there long upfront but are soft. there offence has looked good against very week d's. but against physical teams-kstate,wash state,illini,sdstate,memphis all loosers- they did beat baylor aphysical team -but baylor turned the ball over 18 times and got in foul trouble. St johns is going to be very physical and pressure the perimeter with hard nose d.Gonzagas transition D is piss poor also. The seniors and lavin (a great Motivation guy) they win by 8

I like the line movement. currently St Johns -1
Gonzaga has gained a lot of name recognition over the last decade..
That probably sticks in a lot of publics minds.
 

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I like the line movement. currently St Johns -1
Gonzaga has gained a lot of name recognition over the last decade..
That probably sticks in a lot of publics minds.

i was surprised that the line opened so low...most of what you read indicates the general public isn't enamored with this edition of Zags at all

then you look at this big east team with many signature wins that included beating duke, pitt, marquette uconn, etc. that has really caught the publics eye...granted most of their wins were on home turf

now, with line coming down even further, i'm not sure what to make of this game...

either way, BOL Thunder
 

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I meant ur 3 top % plays I am liking StJohns George Mason ODU and Xavier
 

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Thunder, Thank you for your insight. I am going to a Calcutta tonight. Which teams do you think would be good value buys?

Thanks!
 

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i was surprised that the line opened so low...most of what you read indicates the general public isn't enamored with this edition of Zags at all

then you look at this big east team with many signature wins that included beating duke, pitt, marquette uconn, etc. that has really caught the publics eye...granted most of their wins were on home turf

now, with line coming down even further, i'm not sure what to make of this game...

either way, BOL Thunder

58% OF The volumE is on the zAgs - LINE OPENED ZAGS -2 NOW JOHNIES -SHARPS ARE ON JONNIES(BIG MONEY) NO IDEA WHAT YOUR SAYING
 

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Any leans or plays for tonight thunder??

Im leaning UNC Ashe but would like your opinion.
 

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58% OF The volumE is on the zAgs - LINE OPENED ZAGS -2 NOW JOHNIES -SHARPS ARE ON JONNIES(BIG MONEY) NO IDEA WHAT YOUR SAYING

all opening lines I saw (vegas & offshore) had Jonnies -1.5....never saw zags favored anywhere, unless you are referring to some outlaw line...scoresnadodds currently showing 58% on jonnies

I personally don't know where the sharp money is as i certainly don't have access to that info and i'm not doubting that you do

all i'm saying is that I was surprised that jonnies were favored by so little and if zags actuallly were favored then i am shocked based on the body of work of each team this season and what I thought the perception of each team was
 

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all opening lines I saw (vegas & offshore) had Jonnies -1.5....never saw zags favored anywhere, unless you are referring to some outlaw line...scoresnadodds currently showing 58% on jonnies

I personally don't know where the sharp money is as i certainly don't have access to that info and i'm not doubting that you do

all i'm saying is that I was surprised that jonnies were favored by so little and if zags actuallly were favored then i am shocked based on the body of work of each team this season and what I thought the perception of each team was


ZAGS OPENED AT BOOKMAKER -1.5 5DIMES -2 THE GREEK -1 -NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE WITH YOU JUST INFORMATIVE- THERE ARE SITES THAT CAN GIVE YOU VOLUME AND %- PUBLIC WHIS IS USSUALLY SMALLER WAGERS IS THE VOLUME BUT IF THE LINE MOVES THE OPPOSITE WAY ESPECIALLY ACROSS 0 ITS SHARPS LARGER WAGERS -AND ALL 3 OF MY BUDS WHO I CONSIDER SHARPS HIT IT EARLY- AGAIN IF YOU READ A EARLIER POST IT EXPLAINS WHY I LIKE THEM- ZAGS ARE A VERY SOFT TEAM THIS YEAR- NOT ONE GUY THAT IS IN YOUR FACE BUT YOU ARE CORRECT PERCEPTION AND THERE SECOND BEST GUY BEING OUT EFFECTED THINGS BUT EITHER WAY I THINK THE JONNIES ARE BETTER THAN ALL THE TEAM THAT BEAT THE ZAGS EARLIER IN THE YEAR ACCEPT SDS- GL
 

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what

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what % is st.johns as of right now for you
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no negativity perceived Thunder :D

actually I did read your earlier post on this game and the others you wrote about....fully understand the % of wagers publicized at several sites and the so called "reverse line movement"....whats more, I agree with everything you said on the Jonnies game

and I think most people view them as the superior team in this matchup

so, in light of that, my last question is why did the zags open as favorites? I just don't get this line
 

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what % is st.johns as of right now for you
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BASES I WILL HAVE SOME STUFF UP LATER ON TODAY LIKE TONIGHT.

JUST TRYING TO STIR UP SOME OPINIONS -I PLAYED ALOT OF THESE ALREADY
 

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no negativity perceived Thunder :D

actually I did read your earlier post on this game and the others you wrote about....fully understand the % of wagers publicized at several sites and the so called "reverse line movement"....whats more, I agree with everything you said on the Jonnies game

and I think most people view them as the superior team in this matchup

so, in light of that, my last question is why did the zags open as favorites? I just don't get this line

WELL I THINK THE JONNIES LOSING THERE SECOND LEADING GUY THE LAST GAME AND NOT SEEING THEM AFTER THAT -I DONT THING THEY WANTED TO LAY THEMSELVES OPEN TO MUCH EXPOSURE ALSO THE GAME IS OUT WEST -THERE SMART PUBLIC BELIEVES JONNIES WILL BE HURT BY THE LOSS- WHICH LATER ON I THINK THEY WILL- BUT THIS IS A BAD MATCH UP FOR THE ZAGS
 

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thunder, what are your thoughts about the johnnies traveling so far and playing at altitude vs the zags and possibly BYU.
if i could short the johnnies as a sweet 16 team i'd hammer it.
 

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thunder, what are your thoughts about the johnnies traveling so far and playing at altitude vs the zags and possibly BYU.
if i could short the johnnies as a sweet 16 team i'd hammer it.

if the jonnies meet byu i dont know byu is soft now - the problem the jonnies do not have a lockdown guy- AND THE KID FROM BYU IS LIGHTS OUT- but in my brackets i have the jonnies knocked out by florida- the jonnies got a great draw- 2 soft teams if they meat byu-
 

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AS FAR AS ALTITUDE THE TOURNEY THERE ARE SO MANY COMMERCIALS AND TIME-OUTS ARE LONGER-THERE ARE 2 MORE TV TIM-OUTS AND ALOT MORE OFFICIAL REPLAYS-
 

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CAL SB - HAS 5 GUYS BACK FROM LAST YEAR +2 SUBS THAT SEE TIME- FLORIDA DOES TOO- DIFF HERE IS THE 2 GUYS INSIDE FOR SB ARE STEPPING UP -THE ONE KID A PRO- COINCIDENTLY THERE BEST FRIENDS- AND NOW THERE STEPPING UP- FLORIDA HAS 2 WEAKNESSES-1 THERE GUARDS GET HUNG UP ON THE 3 TOO MUCH ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE AVERAGE FROM OUTSIDE THE ARC- 2- THERE INSIDE D - FLORIDA IS IN A VERY WEAK BRACKET - THEY WILL WIN THIS GAME BUT SB WILL COVER- 67-60
 
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