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ned clarification?

ned clarification?

Bears rushed for 5.5 ypr...average, not that bad.:shrug:

so what's bad?

cal did lead 35-7 in middle of 2q
 

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Bears rushed for 5.5 ypr...average, not that bad.:shrug:

so what's bad?

cal did lead 35-7 in middle of 2q


Marshawn Lynch was averaging 8.5 ypc coming into the game so we didn't do to bad. He is a top-3 back in all of college football, he's gonna do that to everyone.

1st quarter, Rudy fumbled and gave Cal the ball on the 30 which they scored

1 minute later in the start of the 2nd, Desean Jackson returns a punt 80 yds for a td.

Seconds left in the 1st half, Rudy throws a pick-6.

21 of the 42 points scored in the 1st half were due to turnovers and special teams. I know it's part of the game but there has to be something said for that. Not making excuses as this is the crap that pisses me off regarding Koetter- it's always the same story in big games on the road.
 

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I'll be the first to admit that I haven't looked at this game at all but can someone tell me why Oregon is actually favored by 2.5 AT ASU??? Does ASU have significant injuries or is this just an overreaction to their loss at Cal?

.......I thought it would be more like -5/5' before lines came out....for me when a line of 2.5 is hung as the opener I take a hard look (just like 6.5). Public is most likely very down on ASU, as they only remember last weeks contest........just seemed light and we all know linesmakers normally don't hand out gifts.......I had it circled and still looking at it, but some of this stuff above might make me think about some other games on the board this week......
 

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.......I thought it would be more like -5/5' before lines came out....for me when a line of 2.5 is hung as the opener I take a hard look (just like 6.5). Public is most likely very down on ASU, as they only remember last weeks contest........just seemed light and we all know linesmakers normally don't hand out gifts.......I had it circled and still looking at it, but some of this stuff above might make me think about some other games on the board this week......

You thought Oregon would be -5 on the road at ASU? I don't know. They may be a better team than ASU but I certainly don't see them giving 5 on the road against a very good team like ASU. Homefield advantage is enormous in college football. I realize they got beat pretty bad by Cal but Cal is an elite team. I figured the public would be down on ASU as well, but it sounds like they may be betting on them (unless it's sharp money).
 

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I have yet to look at all the "consensus" venues (still not sold that information is acurate), but I can't believe that public is betting ASU.......I might be stupid though.....:mj07:
 

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I agree. I don't expect to see the public on ASU either. Given that the line has gone down though it's a possibility.
 

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seen all 3 of Dux games, and they were very fortunate to come out of their lone rd game @ fresno with W ... saw asu last 2 weeks and havent been in love with either ... that said, tuff game to cap but i would lean to home team ... Dux have won like what 14 or last 15 reg season games?
 

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fwiw....

fwiw....

oregon is 11-1 coming off a bye week under coach bellotti and have won the last 10 straight....so do with it what u will.....i have yet to hear,and dont think anyone can come up with, one compelling reason why to lay coin on either side of this game....what i have heard is quite of few reasons why not to and that seems to be the right play as well as a play on the over....alot of other games that make way more sense to play a side in....think this game is 37-34 either way....u can try to figure out by consensus %'s all u want and who the publics on and who the sharps are on blah-blah-blah....you're just jerkin' yourself off with that crap in a game like this....1 good offense,1 very good offense,1 average defense,and 1 shitbox defense....key injuries for both on both sides of the ball....all this adds up to the over 64 imo....good luck in whatever u play and if u can pick a side in this one correctly then u are more lucky then good....either team could just as well blow the other one out by 2-3 tds....turnovers are the difference in this game
 

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There is absolutely no reason to bet this game unless your bookie is an ASU student and only takes action on one game.

ASU die hards like myself and devilfan dont know about how Rudy is going to react to this Cal loss (His first loss with any sort of pressure) and/or IF RUDY IS ANY GOOD.

Rudy played soft defense towards the end of last season, no to mention playing under NO pressure as he was the "redshirt freshman coming in" to replace the Junior QB, not expected to be much. All of a sudden he blows up and leads the nation in pass efficiency last year, and ASU goes into this year with a HEAVY burden on a Sophomore QB that had a NFL receiver and 2 good, fast SENIRO WR's to throw to towards the end of last year playing soft defenses. Now he has 2 Sophomores, a rFR, a Senior that only cares about kickoff and punt returns and a senior that was injured (Burgess).


U of A was probably the best defense he played last year and he didn't play all that great. Maybe that should have been a sign.

All in all..stay away. I wouldn't even bet the over with each team looking to be running the ball a lot.
 

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off the bye week......i love oregon

then again, i'd love anybody playing asu

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but i really do think oregon is the better team and gets it done on the road vs asu
 

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There is absolutely no reason to bet this game unless your bookie is an ASU student and only takes action on one game.

ASU die hards like myself and devilfan dont know about how Rudy is going to react to this Cal loss (His first loss with any sort of pressure) and/or IF RUDY IS ANY GOOD.

Rudy played soft defense towards the end of last season, no to mention playing under NO pressure as he was the "redshirt freshman coming in" to replace the Junior QB, not expected to be much. All of a sudden he blows up and leads the nation in pass efficiency last year, and ASU goes into this year with a HEAVY burden on a Sophomore QB that had a NFL receiver and 2 good, fast SENIRO WR's to throw to towards the end of last year playing soft defenses. Now he has 2 Sophomores, a rFR, a Senior that only cares about kickoff and punt returns and a senior that was injured (Burgess).


U of A was probably the best defense he played last year and he didn't play all that great. Maybe that should have been a sign.

All in all..stay away. I wouldn't even bet the over with each team looking to be running the ball a lot.

Marranuski, for once we agree. You still a dick but we can see eye to eye everyonce in awhile :142smilie .

Andrew Carnahan is out for the year. His MRI showed damage to his ACL but they can't tell how severe it is until the swelling and deep bone bruise in his knee subside. He was our starting LT and also our best OL. He will be drafted in this coming NFL draft, would have been a top-3 round pick but who knows now. This hurts bad. It won't be that bad if our other OL can stay healthy but it will disrupt the line this week. If anyone else remembers, we had some lineman get hurt last year before the Oregon game and it screwed us up big time. We lost to Oregon and a horrible Stanford team 2 weeks in a row. Continuity on a OL is key, guys get used to blocking next to each other and that will be disrupted for us this week.

Rudy Burgess has been going through drills this weeks at practice but hasn't done any hitting. He was out of last weeks game with a "neck strain" but I think he still had lingering effects of a concussion he got earlier this season. IMO, he will play this week. This will be a huge addition for us has he is our best WR. He is a Reggie Bush tyoe player- a very good RB, very good WR, good special teamer, and plays DB occasionally. I'm not saying he is Reggie Bush but he is very underrated.

Keagan Herring supposedly has looked great this week in practice. He is our starting RB who missed last weeks game with a strained hamstring. They said in the paper he has been running great. Herring and Torain are a great 1-2 combo that should be taken very seriously.

No idea what to think of Rudy Carpenter. No one will have confidence in him until he has confidence in himself. That will start with performance.
 

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I can post ASU football articles from the AZ Republic regarding this weeks game vs Oregon if anyone is interested. Has some decent info that could be helpful
 
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