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Nunn don't stand a chance and will not be selected as VP.

I think McCain will make the big mistake picking his VP. Bush and Cheney will be making that seleciton for him.

Obama taking his time. When its all said and done he will pick the stronger VP candidate.

Stop hating so much AR, your going to have a heart attack tack tack tack.

GO OBAMA !


what are you talking about scott....i don't hate anybody..& i post to eddie wasn't meant to be hateful....

i have said that i will support obama if he is the president....

you can't be serious saying that bush/cheney will pick mccain's vp...can you ?
 
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scott...

you are naive if you think obama is going to change much.....

Al, if you believe that Obama will not change things much, which I am not saying he will, but if you believe he won't change things much then why are you so gung ho for McCain, because we pretty much know that he won't change anything.
 

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Al, if you believe that Obama will not change things much, which I am not saying he will, but if you believe he won't change things much then why are you so gung ho for McCain, because we pretty much know that he won't change anything.

stevie...

i am not gun ho for mccain...i have said that he is better qualified than obama to be president...& i want experience now...

i will tell you this stevie....if mcain was president instead of bush & he attacked iraq like bush did, we wouldn't be in this situation.mccain was in agreement with powell from the beginning on having about 400,000 troops for the invasion...instead of what rumsfeld & chaney chose which was less than 200,000. you see how the surge worked...well imagine if we had this from the beginning....i believe less american soldiers would have died...

as far as obama is concerned....if you are paying attention you will notice him moving to the right....he doesn't want to be another liberal democrat who will get killed on election day.

when either obama or mccain are sitting in the oval office....they will not change anything once they start reading the security reports every morning.....they don't want to be the next president to deal with another 9/11.

this is why some of the liberals are up in arms with obama..because he is moving to the middle & is agreeing with some of bush's policies...
 

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stevie...

i am not gun ho for mccain...i have said that he is better qualified than obama to be president...& i want experience now...

i will tell you this stevie....if mcain was president instead of bush & he attacked iraq like bush did, we wouldn't be in this situation.mccain was in agreement with powell from the beginning on having about 400,000 troops for the invasion...instead of what rumsfeld & chaney chose which was less than 200,000. you see how the surge worked...well imagine if we had this from the beginning....i believe less american soldiers would have died...

as far as obama is concerned....if you are paying attention you will notice him moving to the right....he doesn't want to be another liberal democrat who will get killed on election day.

when either obama or mccain are sitting in the oval office....they will not change anything once they start reading the security reports every morning.....they don't want to be the next president to deal with another 9/11.

this is why some of the liberals are up in arms with obama..because he is moving to the middle & is agreeing with some of bush's policies...

Al, I don't know if more boots in Iraq was the answer. Common sense would say it was. I am not even sold on the Surge working as well as everybody is saying it did. I think the insurgents pulled back. But time will tell if they return. As you know I was against going into Iraq in the first place. I know you are for it. But I cannot support someone, who in my mind, showed such poor judgement. It just wasn't the time.
No doubt we will see another major terrorist attack on our soild. The Libs will say because the borders are not secure and the Cons will say because we showed weakness in Iraq. Just as I see it.
I am reminded of Nixon who ran as a Peace Candidate with a plan to end Vietnam. Turns out his plan was to stay another 5 years and accept the same terms he could of had when he took office.
We are in this deep. We owe the Communist Chinese so much to pay for this war.
 

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i'll answer io because scott is busy listening to an obama motivational tape....

nothing will change....
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The same thing was said to me about Arnold Shwerenagger when he was running for Gov of
California. I was shouting from the rooftops, that Arnold would make positive changes in California.

People were saying oh he is a actor , he has no experience, he dont know shit. What qualifications does Arnold have ?

Well I think that he has done a great job of turning California around from the short time he has been in office. A breath of fresh air.
New ideas and opionions. Willing to listen to his
people instead of Bush stuck in the mud one way kill everything way of thinking.

Integrity, character , and good sense will take you a long way as long as you dont have big oil, the lobby people, and asswipe policticians hanging all over you.

Thats what we have with Obama. A chance to change the hold that old time politians have on the President. A chance for a new outlook.

And Arnold has said he would not turn down a offer to be in Obama's cabinet. :00hour

I wish he would take Arnold as his VP.

I would vote for Arnold .

Does that answer your question.

Meanwihile McCais cant pull his nose out of Bush and Cheneys ass to think about who he will take as VP. Romney would make McCain look like he is the VP. I doubt McCain will stand for that.

McCain will probably choose a "cunt" for his VP. His words of course.

AR - Tell your wife that McCain was recorded one time calling his wife the c word. See what a reaction you get from her. Let me know what she thinks of a possible President using that word for his wife. I have never in my life used that word to describe any woman. Ever !

Then maybe you will understand who you are going to vote for.
 
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Al, I don't know if more boots in Iraq was the answer. Common sense would say it was. I am not even sold on the Surge working as well as everybody is saying it did. I think the insurgents pulled back. But time will tell if they return. As you know I was against going into Iraq in the first place. I know you are for it. But I cannot support someone, who in my mind, showed such poor judgement. It just wasn't the time.
No doubt we will see another major terrorist attack on our soild. The Libs will say because the borders are not secure and the Cons will say because we showed weakness in Iraq. Just as I see it.
I am reminded of Nixon who ran as a Peace Candidate with a plan to end Vietnam. Turns out his plan was to stay another 5 years and accept the same terms he could of had when he took office.
We are in this deep. We owe the Communist Chinese so much to pay for this war.

stevie...

just for claification...i wasn't for the war as it is being fought....i was for the war if it was going to be fought with the 400,000 troops...& i was in agreement with powell's thoughts....when we fight a war...we should use overwhelming force. with a larger force we could have sealed off some of the entrances into the country...
 

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Outside of your personal perception of what kind of man he is, and not going into the current administration, but what is he going to change/do as President?
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I have to go to work now. Shit.

Tonight I will make a list for you.

In the meantime IO, would you mind listing what you believe McCain will do as President.

thanks

I hope I dont end up calling you a focktard.
 

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unbelievable !!:mj07: :mj07:

tell me eddie did you clean up after you jerked off to obama ?.....did you get any of the people in front of you wet ?

why do you like him eddie....because he is an excellent speaker ? because he is black & you feel guilty ?

well i got news for you pal, i met some great speakers in sales, who were able to charm anybody for a sale...but i wouldn't turn my back to them...

now i am not saying that obama is crooked...but he is an "elmer gantry" type...& he is changing some of his views than what he had during the primaries..

let him build up his resume before we make him king.....unbelievable !!

no wonder gw calls people like you "moonbats"...:142smilie

unbelievable !!:mj07: :mj07:

and btw...i hope he picks nunn as his vp candidate...

eddie..

i will wait for your reply about how we have suffered under bush....& it's time for a change....

Al, did you get all gross and Weaslish on purpose?
 

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stevie...

just for claification...i wasn't for the war as it is being fought....i was for the war if it was going to be fought with the 400,000 troops...& i was in agreement with powell's thoughts....when we fight a war...we should use overwhelming force. with a larger force we could have sealed off some of the entrances into the country...
Al, I agree that any battle we go into we should go in with the full force of the greate4st military machine. But the neocons don't fight that way. They want to win the hearts and minds. :shrug: But
 

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I have to go to work now. Shit.

Tonight I will make a list for you.

In the meantime IO, would you mind listing what you believe McCain will do as President.

thanks

I hope I dont end up calling you a focktard.

Call me whatever you want Scott I'm extremely durable, but please drop the pidgeonholing routine. Sponge and Spy got you beat by a country mile. And I don't care to have McCain as our President. Find were I have said differently.

Don't bother with your list. I'll ask another here or elswhere on the net the same question.

GL at work
 

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Al, I agree that any battle we go into we should go in with the full force of the greate4st military machine. But the neocons don't fight that way. They want to win the hearts and minds. :shrug: But

you know stevie....i never understood why bush made a 5 star general sect'y of state & a businessman sect'y of defense....
 

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you know stevie....i never understood why bush made a 5 star general sect'y of state & a businessman sect'y of defense....[/QUOTE
Louis Black says something like Nothing works, but it really isn't complicated. Put people in charge who know something about what they are in charge of. This admin has been full of the wrong people in charge.
 
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murph...

i just found it funny that a middle age man acts like he just saw the 2nd coming....

So you think he would jerk off to Jesus?:shrug:

HARD for me to stay *positive* when people keep getting accused of masturbating on their keyboards.:nono:
 

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you know stevie....i never understood why bush made a 5 star general sect'y of state & a businessman sect'y of defense....

Did it ever occur to you that Bush sucked as President? That's what bad presidents do - they put wrong people in wrong positions.

I am very optimistic that either Obama or McCain will do a much better job filling the posts with appropriate people.
 
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