Lots of good stuff in this thread, being in the Marine Corps from 82-87 here is my take on it.
First of all the anthem is exactly that, if it isn't played before the Emmys or Oscars then it damn well should be and a Bald Eagle released also for that matter. Nothing in my life was/is more fulfilling and made me cry harder than when Wayne Messmer sang the Nationl Anthem in Chicago Stadium prior to the NHL all star game the day we went to Desert Storm. If you don't like it, or the words, tough shit. I also like America the Beautiful and This Land, however this is the adopted anthem and for good reason.
I am sick and tired of people screaming about freedom of this and freedom to do that. A girl turns her back on the American flag at a game, if I was a student or player on that team, home girl would have taken her first nationally televised ass kickin right then and there.
Do you think that no freedoms or anything were won by the Vietnam War? The right to protest and march on Washington and all that crap basically got its roots during that war.
The very freedoms and liberties we as U.S. citizens possess are because we earn the right to have them through conflict and negotiation.
As far as being a baby killer.....sign me up because I wouldn't think twice about it if I thought the mewling little bastard was a threat to my childrens freedom. Let me ask you this, did Korea, Germany, Vietnam, et. al., balk at putting children on their own front lines? You think they didn't hide explosives and whatever else in diapers? Anyone that has never seen true oppression, lived in a tyrannical state, or a communism cannot speak to that side of any equation. Just as noone that has never had to defend their country in the name of freedom has a right to speak to the "truth" either.
Eddie, you want a game without an anthem, then go play duck duck goose with your colleagues, you know the ones that defend our freedoms in courts of law. Your very livelihood was built on the backs of freedom fighters, so even though I don't feel like arguing with you because I generally agree with you on most points on this one.....kiss my ass. Let freedom ring baby, at every event.
Life is hell and war has become part of it. You can quote anyone you want about us being the only animal that will war against itself, but that is also not true. Territorial battles wage in all walks of life my brother. What do you think happens when a new heirarchy comes into power in a pride of lions. The young are uncerimoniously killed by the new big guy.
We probably don't need to bomb Iraq, but with the way society in the U.S. is today and youth crime on an astronomical rise, a little time on the fronts couldn't hurt.