Rev. Jeremiah Wright on PBS tonight

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it has been a distraction for bho....having to explain the character(or lack thereof)of his associates...

tony rezko, the indicted fixer...jeremiah wright, the racist reverend...william ayers...


the marxist brothers

rezko
groucho
"bomb"o

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Oh no you dih-int.:nono:

Well, someone asked if either of the esteemed men of God Hagee or Haggard hated whitey, so I was looking to clarify what their likely positions on the matter might be. :SIB

But, I have had all night to think about it, and I ought to amend those answers.

Hagee also probably hates rich white people in and around the New Orleans area. Probably in other areas of the country as well. Wonder what his thoughts are of poor black people in those areas? :shrug:

As for Haggard, I had forgotten. He is cured now they say. So, he's probably not that infatuated with men anymore. I am sure he will be spiritually advising our president at some point tomorrow. And, I am sure that message will prove invaluable to our president as he continues to lead us.
 

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The following is a note from Bill Moyers blog that I thought summed up the interview quite nicely and stated my position on why this interview will not air on conservative profit centered corportate media:

"Thank you, Bill Moyers and PBS, for offering this enlightening interview with Rev. Wright. I am alternately amazed and horrified by the lack of intelligent discourse among the mainstream corporate news media. That they have been so willing to rush to judgment on this man is truly shameful and yet another example of the depths to which our public discourse has sunk.

An electorate cannot make informed decisions when it is so poorly informed. Yet most broadcast and cable networks seem more interested in promoting a horse race than educating their viewers.

Thus, we end up with a tabloid debate on ABC and a focus on incendiary soundbites, instead of probing, thoughtful reporting. But that's what happens when the government abdicates its responsibility to ensure that networks fulfill their civic responsibility in exchange for free use of our public airwaves. When news becomes a profit center, the truth gets buried under an avalanche of cheap shots and mud.

After watching the interview, I must conclude that Rev. Wright is a decent and thoughtful man. Whether you agree or disagree with his opinions, you cannot deny that he is a sincere, honest American who loves his country and is doing his best to improve the lives of his congregants.
The search for a higher truth in a world overripe with flippant media blowhards is not easy. Those bloviating pundits of corporate "news" are paid good money to stir up controversy in the heartless pursuit of ratings. I sincerely hope that someone in the mainstream media would feel a twinge of nobility and offer this inteview - the full interview - to their viewers in the spirit of public service. I won't hold my breath...

In the meantime, thank you, Mr. Moyers, for fulfilling that function in your own way. You remind us what thoughtful, responsible journalism looks like. And thank you, PBS, for giving Mr. Moyers a forum."

Once again you all can chime in all you want about PBS being liberal etc. but no where in what you love to call the liberal media did you find this story or the story's of Hegge, Haggard, etc. with such exposure as you do the sound bites of "God Damn America" attributed to Wright.

The conservative corporate media is exposed for what it is. Remember the best defense is an offense. If you tell a lie over and over again, people will believe it. The biggest lie going is:

THE MEDIA IS LIBERAL.

Once again, Disney, GE, News Corp, Gannet are Corporate America. They are dyed in the wool Republicans. The big lie told over and over again is the media is liberal. Same as weapons of mass destruction. Cheney knew they were there. Same as the problem with health care costs rising is lawsuits. Caps are all over place now and see how those bills have come down.

I mean really people, what is it gonna take for you to wake up. Another republican administration?

Eddie

After watching the interview, I must conclude that Rev. Wright is a decent and thoughtful man. Whether you agree or disagree with his opinions, you cannot deny that he is a sincere, honest American who loves his country and is doing his best to improve the lives of his congregants.

Hmm somehow I conclude something much diff--
Honest??--Loves his Country??? Improves congregants-

Boils down to basics Edward--Should we believe what we see or what someone tell us what we saw?

on improving lives of congregants--Moyers didn't happen to specify how many of them are living in Million dollar homes---Somehow I see it as he profited at expense of the people--buts thats just me:shrug:
 

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After watching the interview, I must conclude that Rev. Wright is a decent and thoughtful man. Whether you agree or disagree with his opinions, you cannot deny that he is a sincere, honest American who loves his country and is doing his best to improve the lives of his congregants.

and one wonders why some black folks can`t understand the concept that when a policemen stops you...or pulls you over for a traffic stop,that you just comply because he`s an officer of the LAW....

why do some blacks panic and react as though the police are the enemy?...because their heads are filled with this hateful garbage week after week in some of these "black liberation theology" churches by vicious scam artisits like wright...that live like kings and retire to multi-million dollar estates when they retire....

in rich,WHITE communities...

the audacity of "hope"?....no,gents.......the audacity of "scrutiny"....


obviously i`m no democrat...and i never thought i`d EVER consider a clinton....BUT...i have found i actually admire her on occasion, and i get a kick out of her sometimes...she`s got some spunk...

she's good at the politics thing - and not nearly as far left as bho...and after all these revelations about bockobama have surfaced...even his supposedly good qualities give me the willies......
 

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Gary:

I understand the right wing philosophy of keep the left, excuse me, center divided, then the senior senator from Arizona (and I do mean senior) will continue to the psyco right's run of country formerly known as the United States of America (with all due respect to Prince). Otherwise you could never make such a blasphemous statement such as considering voting for a Clinton.

Don't worry, I understand the context and intent why you make such a statement. Obama is much more of a threat to you and corporate america than Clinton. He may, and I use the word "may: intententionally, offer this country a chance.

Whereas Hillary and John represent old school Washington.

Wayne, you keep on talking about how you will never be able to get over Wright's vein's popping out of his neck as he's screaming about America. Well, thats not the issue is it. Isn't the issue whether it was taken in context.

And further more, what about the hundreds of times McCains veins have popped out of his neck when he has lost control of his temper? Anger management? Remember, when Wright is pounding on a pulpit saying God damn America, no matter the context, there is no launch button underneath his fist.

Eddie
 

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he`s tripping over his own feet,edward....

this guy that has expressed wonder that "where BUT in america could a kid born of a kansas/******** heritage get to be president", but then he undercuts his gratitude and humility by borrowing elite, racist rhetoric & pomposity that insults the very suckers who make this country the generous warm welcoming place it is....

and that`s why clinton will be stronger vs mccain.....that crap may not faze leftwing dems,but it doesn`t play well with republicans and more importantly,reagan democrats and independents...

and that`s why i think this will come back to bite him on the ass...
 

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Watched the link today. As you "educated" types say, "I took a few copious notes". I'll try my best to get my head organized and come across as such.

Let me say 1st off, this man is obviously highly intelligent and has a well planned, tempered thought process. Not a raging individual, outside of the times when the cameras are running and his actions are planned. Kind of guy not to fear. He carried himself well in the Frontline interview decades back as well as in this piece. He's made an effort for his community for the day he started his ministry. Wright made a big leap when he even got involved in his ministry. He actually gave a white guy, Dr. Martin Marty, one of his main professors before his ministry (unless that guy was black), credit for really giving his life a focus.

The interview itself was more of two old friends meeting. Nice of Moyers to disclose (besides his obvious political bent) that his religious affiliation is that of the UCC, same as Wright. He didn't get into the meat and potatoes of the situation until the last 6 minutes of the interview. The majority of the time, it was a soft expose about how eloquent, educated, well spoken, even tempered, and likeable Wright, and his church is. Wright constantly throws down his well versed knowledge of history and the Bible. He ties it in, with his view, to events of today. He unabashidly uses words and phrases out of the Bible or history and runs with them way too far to make whatever point he needs. As far as having things in/out of context, Wright is far too liberal with the facts. "No right to take a life" was a phrase I think he gets a lot of mileage out of. Take about taking something out of context.

I personally would like to grab every thief, Arab, Muslum, Black, immigrant, crack head, wife abuser, communist, Middle Eastern whatever, killer, and give them a big hug, a job, a place to stay, and a horse. The FACT is that now and throughout history, the other side is not as accepting and DOESN'T have your interests at heart. And it has nothing to do with what I've done to them in the past. IT'S CALLED HUMAN NATURE. That is one thing Wright doesn't want to grasp. To a hustler, you are a square. To be used and taken for all you can. I guarantee Wright will never let anybody in his "hood" take him. Those he helps are of the same interests as he has. I'd like to see him bring in some GD's or LK's from the projects. Not one or two either. Let's see how long he not only has a ministry, BUT LIVES. I've hired a number of them over the last couple decades. Throw a Rev in front of my name. I like how there's nothing positive to say about the US. Oh, except for the fact that he does have the freedom to say what he wants. KIND OF BIG THING wouldn't you say. I know the owner of a bar were I once lived. Called New England Inn. He said, "Why aren't there any n iggers in Russia? Because they killed them all". This guy is a Czek native. It was a statement of fact over a few drinks. It wasn't meant to be a racist comment. He's married and has a child with a woman of Middle Eastern decent. (New England and Irving Pk Road if your ever in Chicago)

As with the 1st time I posted about this guy, I still think it's all about BUSINESS. Somewhere in the Bible, a part Wright missed, there's something about a rich man getting into heaven. Somebody will die tonight on the West Side, or the South Sdie, of Chicago. Wright still has his mutli million dollar retirement and mansion. If he set aside his material needs, he could save thousands while he's alive. Maybe some of those idiots shooting each other. How's it go (what he took) from the Bible, "No right to take a life". I think he just did a few hours ago. I think he will tonight. I think he will tomorrow. I'm not even gonna get into him unable to stay out of the spotlight for a bit to let his friend succeed. Isn't vanity a sin? He could get his own "God Damn" tv show when this election is all over.

Lastly, (this not directed soley at anyone, but at the same time everyone)

people in this forum on both sides say and post regardless of the facts

Say red when they see green. Say green when they see red. It's very stupid and lame. Centrists my ass. I'm more of a centrist than most on this forum. The reason people like this guy take millions from people for their own uses is he fits a niche they got. This guy is a-political. He would survive no matter what the conditions. (Reminds me of the movie "Other Peoples Money". They can change the rules but they can't change the game.)

Outside all he has done, outside of his knowledge and ablility to communicate, IS ALL ABOUT $$. He didn't pick up that number at the end of his tenure on his looks. He brought his game to the pulpit, acted and said what he had to say, created whatever help groups needed to create, and came across to his AUDIENCE in the needed fashion to GET PAID. No need now for the game face. No different than OJ, Fred Dryer, or Alex Karras. He GOT PAID and is now bringing a different face to the game.

People are such followers. Always need a trick to improve themselves. Can't go on a proper fvking diet. No gotta lick a rock, stand on there head, or just eat meat. Same with there lives. Can't improve it without the proper gimmick. We got the Black Anthony Robbins here. Though the pay might be less for now.

This guy is the farthest thing from sincere.

I am the FARTHEST thing from a follower. At least I'd like to think so.
 

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The conservative corporate media is exposed for what it is. Remember the best defense is an offense. If you tell a lie over and over again, people will believe it. The biggest lie going is:

THE MEDIA IS LIBERAL.

:)

Really?......im pretty confident that the big lie is that the media are neutral independants without an agenda

you can rattle off 4-5 conservative radio talk show hosts who actually call themselves CONSERVATIVES.....the rest are liberal....it's why private study after prvate study shows that over 90% of the media are liberals
 

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STFU

STFU

Rev. Jeremiah Wright will give his first interview since the conservative corporate media's biased attack on Obama's pastor began several months ago. The interview will be conducted by Bill Moyers on the Bill Moyers Journal on PBS this evening. For those of us who enjoy fair and balanced reporting and interviews (or are such losers that we have nothing else better to do on a Friday night), it is a must watch.

For those who do not enjoy fair and balanced interviews but prefer right wing administration propoganda disguised as a news program, Fox will be showing Hannity & Colbes.

Eddie

Eddie, your posts make no sense, and it is clear you are either drunk, or high on low-grade crack when you post. Plz use the goddamn one-button spell check feature.

Your posts are completely useless. I can link 50 quotes here, and you will say I'm biased. Eddie, just stop this dribble, it accomplishes nothing. Obamas' own leftist supporters are concerned about his image, and it's becoming increasing obvious that Hillary will win the nomination.

Obama hates America, he hates Americans, and he wants to destroy us from within. The American voter can see right through him.
 
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Gary:

I understand the right wing philosophy of keep the left, excuse me, center divided, then the senior senator from Arizona (and I do mean senior) will continue to the psyco right's run of country formerly known as the United States of America (with all due respect to Prince). Otherwise you could never make such a blasphemous statement such as considering voting for a Clinton.

Don't worry, I understand the context and intent why you make such a statement. Obama is much more of a threat to you and corporate america than Clinton. He may, and I use the word "may: intententionally, offer this country a chance.

Whereas Hillary and John represent old school Washington.

Wayne, you keep on talking about how you will never be able to get over Wright's vein's popping out of his neck as he's screaming about America. Well, thats not the issue is it. Isn't the issue whether it was taken in context.And further more, what about the hundreds of times McCains veins have popped out of his neck when he has lost control of his temper? Anger management? Remember, when Wright is pounding on a pulpit saying God damn America, no matter the context, there is no launch button underneath his fist.

Eddie
Yep Edward that is the issue--and pray tell HOW could he have made himself any plainer--exactly what could he have added to more clearly emphasize his intent--
--and I might remind you I have seen several sermons of his that are similiar--not just one.

--and yes I know---such logic would automatically disqualify me from any of your juries--similiar to person who puts hot coffee in lap-drives over speedbump--and blames someone else.

and along those lines-When ask on Fox if he'd ever crossed party lines on major vote--he used voting for tort reform as example--so at least I have one area of optomism to cling to if he's elected :
 

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Wayne:

I've told you a kabillion times you won the war on tort reform. Similar to you won the war in Iraq. Both bullshi t. Tort reform has really reigned in those high medical cost just like we reigned in those wmd's.

Tell a lie over and over again......

Tennie:

I am not drunk and I am not high on low grade crack. Furthermore, I will not use the one button spell check feature, as I do not know where it is on this cite (is it that little check mark with the ABC over it?).

My posts are not useless and Obama does not hate America and Americans. He does not want to destroy America from within. The American voter cannot see through him as he is not a spook.

gjn23 is correct, private study after private study have shown that the media is liberal. Recently, the Heritage Foundation commisioned an independent group to conduct an empiracal study to determine if in fact the media was liberal. The commision, headed by Bill Krystol, after an exhaustive two year study, announced on Fox news that the media was indeed liberal.

Vice President Cheney said: "We know for a fact, that the media has been liberal for quite some time and this intelligence report proves it". The foundation report backs up an earlier study conducted by the National Review.

That's some firepower.

Eddie
 

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Eddie. I'm sure you are a nice guy, but the Democrats have a history of America hating. Obama has stated on a few occasions this campaign season, that Americans need to change their viewpoints, because he doesn't think they have the right to think the way they do. The guy comes from a background where Americans are the bad guys, and Muslims and Blacks are the only real people in the world. Just go read his books, you'll get a clear message out of him, and it's not one of togetherness and unity.
 

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Interview was a sleeper. I had a nice nap. Wright was a Marine? never new that I think. Guess he's not all bad. Chit you listen to Hannity you would think he was getting ready to bomb some place. Of course Hannity is a nut case him self
 

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I love how speaking out against the US government has become fodder to be labeled anti-american.

I keep forgetting.....i am living in Moscow or Ohio?

Since I enjoy ripping our government and demanding that it serves its people better and recognize where it/we have made mistakes, then I guess than I am the biggest anti-american out there.

Frankly, speaking out against our government is about as American as you can get.

Thomas Jefferson would be shocked to find out that an entire country is trained to level anti-american accusations at anybody who dare speak out against our government's actions. Josephy McCarthy, however, would be pleased.

Some of you need to give it a rest.
 

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Yeah sure

Yeah sure

I love how speaking out against the US government has become fodder to be labeled anti-american.

I keep forgetting.....i am living in Moscow or Ohio?

Since I enjoy ripping our government and demanding that it serves its people better and recognize where it/we have made mistakes, then I guess than I am the biggest anti-american out there.

Frankly, speaking out against our government is about as American as you can get.

Thomas Jefferson would be shocked to find out that an entire country is trained to level anti-american accusations at anybody who dare speak out against our government's actions. Josephy McCarthy, however, would be pleased.

Some of you need to give it a rest.

Obama himself said very clearly and distinctly, that Americans cannot think a certain way, if it isn't in line with his own thinking patterns. The guy hates America, period. He is a Muslim, and attends a church whose leader spouts off anti-American rhetoric on a daily basis.

Oh, and let's see how much of a hypocrite you are, coz I know you are one. If being a good American, means you says bad things about elected officials, well, here's your chance to type out 100 lines of anti-Obama sentiments....

Go ahead, we're all waiting to see how you use your ability, given to you by right-wingers, to criticize my gov't in regards to Obama and his (non-extant) policies...

Oh you aren't going to to post negative things about Democrats, only Republicans....??? Man, and here I was, thinking that you were on the up and up, ready to do what's right for my country at the drop of a hat, and keep going a lively discussion about how bad our senators from Illinois are. How naive of me to think you actually believe any of the morose logic you post on here about being "fair and balanced." Oh, well It's okay if you post BS about Fox News, (spelled Fox, for those of you without access to an eye-care specialist).

Disgusting.
 
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