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How do they/we allow this shit to continue?


Elon Musk’s DOGE Cuts Are Crashing Social Security


The Social Security Administration has been crippled by cuts to the agency pushed by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency.

The Washington Post reports that employee cuts at the SSA have led to office managers at field offices being forced to answer phone calls at the front desk in place of fired receptionists. In addition, the agency’s website crashed four times in 10 days in March due to server overloads, preventing millions of retired people and the disabled from accessing their online accounts.

On top of that, the office that monitors whether people are satisfied with their service was also cut by DOGE, making it nearly impossible to figure out small ways to fix some, if any of the problems.

Unable to get answers from the SSA, Americans who depend on Social Security have flooded congressional offices with angry phone calls. The AARP says it has been getting 2,000 calls a week since early February, double its usual amount, from people concerned about their Social Security benefits.

The SSA is responsible for $1.5 trillion in benefits to 73 million retired workers, their survivors, and poor and disabled Americans, and now is struggling to deliver to these vulnerable groups. About 40 percent of older Americans depend on Social Security as their primary source of income.

At present, the agency is being run by acting Commissioner Leland Dudek, who has cut more than 12 percent of the SSA’s 57,000-person staff and says DOGE is calling the shots, despite a court order last week preventing Musk’s cronies from accessing the agency.

Dudek’s predecessor, Michelle King, quit her job as acting commissioner rather than hand over Americans’ sensitive personal information to DOGE. Still, Musk’s staffers have pressed on with their quest to find fraud in Social Security benefits, a problem that isn’t as extensive as they claim. Instead, their efforts have resulted in the people who depend on those benefits being shut out altogether.


Dudek and DOGE’s actions have caused chaos within the agency, pushing out experienced officials who were running the SSA’s complicated information technology and benefit systems. As a result, an agency that has been underfunded for years now is on the brink of being shut down, according to Dudek, who wasn’t happy with last week’s court order blocking DOGE from accessing Americans’ data.

Is all of this by design? Musk has called Social Security “the greatest Ponzi scheme of all time,” and conservatives have long sought to privatize the agency. One former agency veteran who took early retirement this month told the Post, “They’re creating a fire to require them to come and put it out.” If that is the goal, is there anything that can save one of America’s most successful anti-poverty programs?
 

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They fire people who know what they are doing and turn it over to people THAT HAVE NO CLUE WTF THEY ARE DOING!
 
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FOX big story is people vandalizing Teslas.

I guess they don't want their stooges to know what's really going on today?
 
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it's insane that this is happening in the united states of america. but this is what happens when you have an ignorant citizenry. they vote against their own best interests.

it's really sad to say our best hope is enough trump voters are harmed by this and finally realize they've been conned. starting with the midterms next year, if they actually happen. but even then, most of these voters are so conditioned to vote for that R, and the districts are so heavily gerrymandered, that it feels like a longshot.

if the republicans in congress were willing to do their job (hahahahahahahaha) they would listen to these calls from pissed-off constituents and actually do something before it's too late. but no matter how many of them will say behind closed doors that they know trump is a stupid POS, they are way too scared of him to take any action.
 

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Now, Florida has booted so many fruit pickers and laborers out of the country they are working to scrap laws protecting children. Maybe Trump can bring cotton mills back to the US now!?

republicans have been trying to bring back child labor for... at least a decade now. it's insane.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/child-labor-laws-arkansas-iowa-gop-republicans

just a fun bit of the article....

Among them is Arkansas, whose GOP governor is the former White House press secretary under Donald Trump, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. In March, Sanders signed a new bill removing employer requirements to verify the age of children as young as 14 before hiring them, calling such protections “burdensome and obsolete.”

how anybody sees a politician in the 21st century with views like that and thinks "yup, i'm voting for her!" is beyond me.

oh, and of course this was covered by project 2025....

https://www.americanprogress.org/ar...-dangerous-conditions-with-fewer-protections/
 
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Here is liberal website Jack is quoting from. https://newrepublic.com/ Any body that clicks on link knows their agenda. I don't have time to respond to this propaganda, "again". Is obvious from responses to this thread, the ones that adhere to this diatribe.
Jack is a brother to me, as are you, despite our political differences. I posted thread when this forum took liberal stance in Obama era in topic "Beginning of the end" I can't access thread but substance was forum won't survive with political bias.

This analogy/results is apparent today. the conservatives have left.

currently. if you check, forum members that have taken control are yyz and kickserve.

"One thing I have learned in life is that is an absolute"... actions have consequences.
 

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Here is liberal website Jack is quoting from. https://newrepublic.com/ Any body that clicks on link knows their agenda. I don't have time to respond to this propaganda, "again". Is obvious from responses to this thread, the ones that adhere to this diatribe.
Jack is a brother to me, as are you, despite our political differences. I posted thread when this forum took liberal stance in Obama era in topic "Beginning of the end" I can't access thread but substance was forum won't survive with political bias.

This analogy/results is apparent today. the conservatives have left.

currently. if you check, forum members that have taken control are yyz and kickserve.

"One thing I have learned in life is that is an absolute"... actions have consequences.
Propaganda?

They are literally closing offices.
 

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This analogy/results is apparent today. the conservatives have left.
i think the more accurate statement is that today's republican party has left the conservatives.

wasn't long ago, conservatives believed that:

russia is our enemy.

free trade is good.

a huge national debt is bad (and not just when the dems are in charge).

morality (family values!!) and integrity are very important.

respect for police (yes, even those protecting the Capitol).

respect for the law (trump is literally a convicted felon).

the reason they all left is because they lose Every. Single. Debate. and they grew tired of trying to defend the indefensible. so they took their ball and went home. that's a lot easier than trying some introspection and asking yourself if today's republican party really shares your values, or if they're just distracting you with identity politics and bullshit about "wokeness".
 

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i think the more accurate statement is that today's republican party has left the conservatives.

wasn't long ago, conservatives believed that:

russia is our enemy.

free trade is good.

a huge national debt is bad (and not just when the dems are in charge).

morality (family values!!) and integrity are very important.

respect for police (yes, even those protecting the Capitol).

respect for the law (trump is literally a convicted felon).

the reason they all left is because they lose Every. Single. Debate. and they grew tired of trying to defend the indefensible. so they took their ball and went home. that's a lot easier than trying some introspection and asking yourself if today's republican party really shares your values, or if they're just distracting you with identity politics and bullshit about "wokeness".
 

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I certainly like your list Smitty and can agree topics are conservative values and still remain so. Especially "Family Values"
What has changed per my previous post...

"This analogy/results is apparent today. the conservatives have left.
currently. if you check, forum members that have taken control are yyz and kickserve.
"One thing I have learned in life is that is an absolute"... actions have consequences."

Followers-admirers-of your above post are you..WhatsHisNuts, yyz and kickserv

My point proven...case closed! Ya,all carry on :smilies8
 

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I certainly like your list Smitty and can agree topics are conservative values and still remain so. Especially "Family Values"
What has changed per my previous post...

"This analogy/results is apparent today. the conservatives have left.
currently. if you check, forum members that have taken control are yyz and kickserve.
"One thing I have learned in life is that is an absolute"... actions have consequences."

Followers-admirers-of your above post are you..WhatsHisNuts, yyz and kickserv

My point proven...case closed! Ya,all carry on :smilies8
not sure if you missed my point completely, or you're ignoring it.

just in case you missed it... you understand today's republican party doesn't stand for a single one of those things, right? you emphasize family values, and yet you voted for a man who:

cheated on his first wife with his eventual second wife.

cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star a month after she gave birth to their child.

bragged about grabbing women by the pussy.

bragged about walking into 15-year old girls' dressing rooms at his pageants.

was recently found liable for sexual assault by a jury.

and, for shits and giggles, nominated a man for attorney general of the united states who has been credibly accused of paying underaged girls for sex.

maybe we have very different ideas of what "family values" are.
 

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cheated on his first wife with his eventual second wife.

cheated on his 3rd wife with a porn star a month after she gave birth to their child.

bragged about grabbing women by the pussy.

bragged about walking into 15-year old girls' dressing rooms at his pageants.

was recently found liable for sexual assault by a jury.

and, for shits and giggles, nominated a man for attorney general of the united states who has been credibly accused of paying underaged girls for sex.

maybe we have very different ideas of what "family values" are.

Odds currently at -990 that he'll ignore this.
 

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Odds currently at -990 that he'll ignore this.
i mean, he did say "case closed!"

so weird. it's almost as if every single trump voter is incapable of having an honest discussion/debate. wayne agrees that those were conservative principles not long ago, and surely he recognizes that none of them are upheld by the republican party these days. so why does he continue to vote republican?
 
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