Rush Limbaugh - Utter AzzWipe

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W is the system right now and he is a complete and utter failure on EVERY level.

This Presidency has already gone into my history book as the worst in modern times.
 

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I don't care how bad Bush is, his inadequacies will never come close to matching Jimmy Carter.
 

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How is that Ferd. What has Bush done right yet?

Hmm
We've had the worst natuaral disastors and a couple other severe--worst man made disaster--fought and still fighting 2 wars--highest oil and gas prices of all time

---and last weeks job report had unemployment @ 4.9--lowest since prior to 911---record housing--and market didn't blink in a week despite highest oil-highest gas--and largest natural disaster in our history--I find that almost unbelievable.

Despite what you think Stevie things could be MUCH worse considering the hand he was dealt. Other than world wars I don't see any pres residing in more precarious times--and while truthfully I give corporate america more credit than GW for the above I give him credit for not getting in the way.

--and looks like we will be getting 2 new conservative judges before he's out--that should make Edwards day :)
 
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Not sure how your brain works Dogs. We are in two wars, one is his fault. The fact that we are in two wars will and should keep the stock market looking good. We are locked up and can't get out of one of those wars with a result that will be like the result of Vietnam. Even his plan of getting out of Iraq matches that of Johnsons plan to get out of Vietnam. Everyone knows it will have the same results. We have high energy cost and there was no shortage. Oil companies made record profits while gouging the American public. The Feds were very slow to react to this latest disaster. Say what you will but it was a national disgrace that we didn't drop food and water to those people. He took 911 and politicized it. He started an unnecessary war with it. He left us thin. He allowed and in fact encouraged Iran, the country with the real WMD, to create nuclear weapons. He has cut social programs that I can't even go into. While the soldiers he sent to fight his unnecessary war struggle with inadequate protection he cuts taxes for his corporate friends. Tell me one thing he has done to stop the rising cost of Health care?.
 

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the savage show is mch different than rush limbaughs. i like the 5 ideas. definitely conservative in my views, but i have criticized bush sveral times. furthermore, haven't followed rush since college. the savage show is conservative in nature, but it well thought out - and he does not spare criticism of anyone.imo
 

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"We are in two wars, one is his fault."


Despite what NYT/Moveon.org preach to their lemmings let me once again give you at bit of facts--even for the most rabid Bush haters he could NOT go to war on his own--
Senate vote was 77-23 House 296-133 in fact-----

The measure passed the Senate and House by wider margins than the 1991 resolution that empowered the current president's father to go to war to expel Iraq from Kuwait. That measure passed 250-183 in the House and 52-47 in the Senate.

--thats basically how my brain works ---and yours Mr Wonder?
 

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Dogs you can spin it in your twisted mind anyway you want. They gave him the right to go to war. They didn't tell him to go. If they did not vote to give him the right to go then we would lose all of our leverage in negotiating. They had to give him the right to go. Get it. They didn't tell him to go. That was something him and his fathers old friends thought up.
You didn't answer the question. What has he done to help the rising cost of health care?
 

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DTB always falls back on that one doesn't he? Another non-sequitir argument. The fact that W lied to Congress about the threat posed by Saddam is - I suppose - irrelevant.
 

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"Dogs you can spin it in your twisted mind anyway you want. They gave him the right to go to war. They didn't tell him to go. If they did not vote to give him the right to go then we would lose all of our leverage in negotiating. They had to give him the right to go. Get it. They didn't tell him to go."

Please -

Then why didn't they do anything to stop him until the flap over WMD? And why don't the Dems stand up in mass and force somethng? Do you think that some of them are worried about what the voters might think? It is all politics. The Dems had their chance and have had chance after chance since then but they cannot mobilize enough force among themselves to have a major effect. Cindy Sheehan has created more of a fuss than they have. Again, I ask why?
 

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I am not quite sure what you are talking about Ferd. Many Dems are guilty of supporting this Iraq Fiasco. But just because they are does not make Bush clean. He created it. Make no mistake about it. Faulty intelligence or whatever, every thinking person knows he was going there. They mislead us. Rumsfeld saying it would be over in 6 months. You mean to stand there and tell me that no one in this administration is accountable. The Dems are out of power, Bush had the whole field to himself.
 

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ferdville said:
Then why didn't they do anything to stop him until the flap over WMD? And why don't the Dems stand up in mass and force somethng? Do you think that some of them are worried about what the voters might think? It is all politics. The Dems had their chance and have had chance after chance since then but they cannot mobilize enough force among themselves to have a major effect. Cindy Sheehan has created more of a fuss than they have. Again, I ask why?


Fred,

The reason is that the WMD thing was the reason a majority gave him free reign to go there. When none showed up, of course that would be the demarcation line. They did NOT give him free reign to rebuild, mold, try to hopelessly democracize Iraq, have our guys getting blown up there for 12 years...etc.

You're right, it's all political. Can you imagine somebody voting against W doing what he thought was best? Can you see the commercials? Weak on defense. Weak on the war on terror, as if Iraq has anything to do with terrorism.

Hillary is doing her political thing, saying we should stick it out there. She doesn't believe that shit for a second. She knows damn well this is a lost cause, but like you say, political considerations rule.

The Dems are the minority party in every sector. It would do no good to have some big uprising, although there's been plenty of dissent. People like Chuck Hagel are a hell of a lot more effective than 50 dems saying the same thing would be. The dems cannot get anything done. This whole thing was conceived and for now will be driven by republicans and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
 

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"The dems cannot get anything done. This whole thing was conceived and for now will be driven by republicans and there's nothing anybody can do about it."

That is a sad state of affairs if true.
 

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Maybe that was overstating it. Eventually, public opinion has the potential to get them to do the right thing. But it won't be while W is in office.
 

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Savage is Awesome !!! Rush dont care much for him just dont listen ...but being that he pisses off the flaming Libs hes ok in my books !
 
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