Russia Vs ISIS in Syria - KOD

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Really love the fact that someone else is finally stepping up to a war.

Dropping bombs at a million a pop. Cruise Missles are about the same.


Russia will soon send boots on the ground into Syria. What a quagmire that will be.


They could be there like in Afghanistan that time. Except Russia dont have the money. So their people will suffer through this.

Russia was Assads biggest trade partner, and they dont want him out.


Russia will lose many billions if Assad goes.


Like being on the sidelines for this one.
 

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Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said on Thursday that Congress should have voted to authorize President Barack Obama's call for airstrikes in Syria in 2013 and criticized his presidential opponent Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) for dismissing them as insufficient to ebb the violence in the region.

"We should support the president because that was better than inaction. No action at all, we see what happens," the former Florida governor told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. "The lack of action now creates chaos, and meanwhile, Assad continues to barrel bomb the innocent civilians, we have a refugee crisis, Russia?s on the march, our allies don?t know where we stand, our support for the remnants of the Syrian Free Army is tepid at best. People are looking for American leadership, and they?re not getting it, and I think Congress should have shown support at that point."

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Jeb wants war involvment so bad he can taste it.

just like his brother.
 

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WASHINGTON -- Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) would be willing to risk going to war with Russia in order to enforce a no-fly zone in Syria.

In a Monday interview with CNBC's John Harwood, the presidential candidate argued that doing nothing would only embolden terror groups like the Islamic State and increase the number of refugees coming out of Syria.

"I am confident the Air Force can enforce that," Rubio said of a hypothetical safe zone in Syria. "I believe the Russians would not test that. I don't think it's in the Russians' interest to engage in an armed conflict with the United States."

Asked what he would do if Russian forces decided to enter the safe zone anyway, Rubio responded, "Well, then you're going to have a problem. But that would be no different than any other adversary."

Imposing a unilateral no-fly zone at a time when Russian aircraft are already present in the sky over Syria would substantially increase the risk of armed conflict, military experts told the Christian Science Monitor last week.

But Rubio, who serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he was willing to accept the consequences of armed conflict with Russia and President Vladimir Putin because the alternative, in his view, "is worse."

"The alternative is [Syrian President Bashar] Assad will remain in power but never control the whole of Syria again," he said. "The alternative is the continued growth of non-ISIS terrorist groups in addition to ISIS itself.

"That being said, we cannot say, well, if Putin is going to test us, we can't do anything. You basically at that point ceded to him as becoming the most influential geopolitical broker in the region," he added.
 

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CNBC's John Harwood is a Liberal Idiot.

yeh so are a bunch of neo con fillibusters



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Turkish forces are said to have shot down a Russian jet after it flew into the country's airspace, according to unconfirmed reports on social media.
It has been claimed by eyewitnesses that there was a large explosion in Huraytan, northern Syria, while three fighter planes were seen overhead.
Rumours of a jet being shot out of the sky come amid heightening tensions between Russian president Vladimir Putin and the West.
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the Ides of War
 

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BEIRUT ? Amid the ornate walls of Damascus' famed Omayyad Mosque, preacher Maamoun Rahmeh stood before worshippers last week, declaring Russian President Vladimir Putin a "giant and beloved leader" who has "destroyed the myth of the self-aggrandizing America."

Posters of Putin are popping up on cars and billboards elsewhere in parts of Syria and Iraq, praising the Russian military intervention in Syria as one that will redress the balance of power in the region.

The Russian leader is winning accolades from many in Iraq and Syria, who see Russian airstrikes in Syria as a turning point after more than a year of largely ineffectual efforts by the U.S.-led coalition to dislodge the Islamic State militants who have occupied significant parts of the two countries.

The reactions underscore that while the West may criticize Putin for supporting Syrian President Bashar Assad, there is some relief in the region at the emergence of a player with a coherent ? if controversial ? strategy.

"Putin does more than just speak," said Sohban Elewi of Damascus, summing up the views of Syrians on opposing camps who regard U.S. policy in Syria and Iraq as fumbled and confused.

Russia began its air campaign in Syria on Sept. 30, joining the fray of those bombing Syria at a critical time for Assad and his embattled troops. The Syrian army's loss of the northern province of Idlib opened the way for rebels to come dangerously close to the coastal Alawite heartland, leaving his soldiers there vulnerable and dejected.

Russia insists it is targeting the Islamic State group and other "terrorists." But Syrian rebels and opposition activists say Moscow's warplanes in recent days have focused on Idlib and the central province of Hama, hitting U.S.-backed rebels in areas with no IS militants.

The planes also have provided air cover for Syrian ground troops who launched an offensive in central Syria, reinforcing the belief that Russia's main aim is to shore up Assad's forces.

In addition to the warplanes taking off from a base in Latakia, Russian ships in the Caspian Sea have fired cruise missiles that fly nearly 1,500 kilometers (930 miles) over Iran and Iraq to strike Raqqa and Aleppo provinces, in what many see as a show of force meant to portray muscle more than serve a specific military goal.

Among Assad's war-weary and frustrated supporters, such elaborate displays of support provide a much-needed psychological boost, and have injected new hope that their flailing battle against rebel factions and the Islamic State group can still be won.

"The (Russian) intervention has raised the morale of the Syrian army and the Syrian people alike," said Dr. Samir Haddad from the central city of Homs.

"President Putin has a distinguished personality and charisma, and it has become clear that world leaders have gradually started approving, openly or secretly, of this intervention," he said.

In Iraq, where the U.S.-led war against IS has stalled, many say they want Russian airstrikes against IS to extend to their country.

Buried between paintings of Baghdad architecture, mosques and landscapes, some art shops in Baghdad have begun selling portraits of Putin, a tribute to his intervention in what Iraqis see as the new military front against IS.

"Russia does not play games. They are problem solvers, and they do it quietly and efficiently, not like the Americans who prefer to do everything in front of the cameras," said Hussein Karim, a 21-year-old medical student from Baghdad.

In one cartoon widely distributed among Iraqis on Facebook and Twitter, U.S. President Barack Obama is dressed as a Sunni sheikh, while Putin as a Shiite imam, suggesting the two are taking sides.

Another cartoon shows a bare-chested Putin holding IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi by the collar of his jalabaya, looking very intimidating. He says to al-Baghdadi: "Where do you think you're going? I'll flatten you like flour," a popular Iraqi expression.

Al-Baghdadi, holding a cellphone, shouts: "Obama, save me!"

Most of the cartoons portray Putin as muscular ? a perception that echoes the one at home in Russia, where he has cultivated an image as a man of action.

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You must be DRUNK to say something that stupid.

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Not even close !!!! I cd relate to youi for hours and days how the Republican Party has fucked this copuntry up..starting with Ronnie Alzheimers Reagan. Now.. and i ask this of all Bible thumpers and right leaning Republicans. name 3 things your party has done for America. As of yet i am waiting !! Now your turn Sparky .....,3 things !!![ Do you have any defense for the gaggle of Republican Idiots in Congress the last 7 years......../COLOR]
 

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[IZE=3]So ?? I see no cut and paste of any Republican acomplishments since 1982 ..THE DAWN OF PRESIDENT Ron {Dip Stick}ALZHEIMER !!!!!!!! OLE TRICKLE ""UP"" DIP STICK.. >> HOW DID DAT WRK OUT ??? When you sober up Sparky lets hear an answer.. but there will never be one out of you. Ya can't fix Stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]
You must be DRUNK to say something that stupid.
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[IZE=3]So ?? I see no cut and paste of any Republican acomplishments since 1982 ..THE DAWN OF PRESIDENT Ron {Dip Stick}ALZHEIMER !!!!!!!! OLE TRICKLE ""UP"" DIP STICK.. >> HOW DID DAT WRK OUT ??? When you sober up Sparky lets hear an answer.. but there will never be one out of you. Ya can't fix Stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]

Go sleep it off, drunk at 6 am is a scream for help.

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WASHINGTON ? Two weeks of air and missile strikes in Syria have given Western intelligence and military officials a deeper appreciation of the transformation that Russia?s military has undergone under President Vladimir V. Putin, showcasing its ability to conduct operations beyond its borders and providing a public demonstration of new weaponry, tactics and strategy.

The strikes have involved aircraft never before tested in combat, including the Sukhoi Su-34 strike fighter, which NATO calls the Fullback, and a ship-based cruise missile fired more than 900 miles from the Caspian Sea, which, according to some analysts, surpasses the American equivalent in technological capability.

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Russia?s jets have struck in support of Syrian ground troops advancing from areas under the control of the Syrian government, and might soon back an Iranian-led offensive that appeared to be forming in the northern province of Aleppo on Wednesday. That coordination reflects what American officials described as months of meticulous planning behind Russia?s first military campaign outside former Soviet borders since the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Taken together, the operations reflect what officials and analysts described as a little-noticed ? and still incomplete ? modernization that has been underway in Russia for several years, despite strains on the country?s budget. And that, as with Russia?s intervention in neighboring Ukraine, has raised alarms in the West.

In a report this month for the European Council on Foreign Relations, Gustav Gressel argued that Mr. Putin had overseen the most rapid transformation of the country?s armed forces since the 1930s. ?Russia is now a military power that could overwhelm any of its neighbors, if they were isolated from Western support,? wrote Mr. Gressel, a former officer of the Austrian military
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Russia is fighting good. Men being killed , million dollar bombs dropped. , costs for war sky rocket.

they really want their partner Assad in power.

oh well. stay as long as you want.
 

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News that makes you think, what if?

News that makes you think, what if?

Maybe this ISIS invention REALLY is a CIA-Israel invention...

Read on.


In a bizarre announcement no doubt designed to coincide with Russia?s bombing campaign against ISIS, Israel now claims they suddenly ?uncovered? the ?first suspected ISIS cell? in Israel well over one year since the ISIS show began, during which time ISIS has remarkably never attacked Israel.

Unfortunately for Israel it?s well known throughout the world that not only is Israel one of the primary players behind ISIS but that ISIS will show up anywhere in the world, except Israel. ISIS has not even once attacked Israel as it has with other countries like Iraq and Syria, both which happen to be on Israel?s list of countries they (Israel) wanted to break up for the so-called ?greater Israel? plans long ago declared.

Despite the fact that Israel is a stone throw away from where ISIS originated and an attack on Israel would be more efficient, more realistic and much more meaningful from an ?ISIS? point of view, no such attack has ever been done. Instead, we?ve been asked to believe all this time that ISIS would prefer to travel all the way to the United States, thousands of miles across the ocean to attack American cities. This, according to western mainstream media and politicians, was such a sure thing that many politicians and Middle East ?experts? were warning Americans by the end of 2014 of the inevitable ISIS attacks coming soon. Criminal Leon Panetta even boldly came out and stated that ISIS was a ?30 year war?. The goal back then was to make ISIS seem greater than god. That this god of terrorism refused to attack next door neighbor Israel remained a mystery. But now that Russia is destroying Israel?s ISIS with real air attacks posing a threat to Israeli plans in the Middle East we see that this whole ISIS mystery is about to change.

In this new story strikingly contradictory of literally everything that is known about ISIS, the Israeli propaganda machine is claiming, almost comically, not only that they have uncovered the first suspected ISIS cell in Israel but that the perpetrators are arrested. Amazingly how all this time no one was aware of this secret ISIS operation until now that Russia is bombing ISIS. ISIS apparently completely evaded Israeli Intelligence, surveillance, security, military operations, police and all and successfully set up a cell smack in the middle of Israel without anyone realizing it until now. Isn?t this timing an amazing coincidence? Worse than that a close examination at the story reveals this is all based on conversations and claims that the cell was ?on behalf? of ISIS. The story couldn?t get any more vague:


REST HERE http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/on-cue-israel-suddenly-claims-to-uncover-first-suspected-isis-cell/
 

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A doomed Russian passenger jet lurched up and down before plunging 31,000 feet after being blown apart by an ?external impact?, airline bosses have revealed.
Travellers still strapped in their seats were sucked from the stricken Airbus A321 through a hole at the back of the jet when the tail blew off 23 minutes after leaving the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm El Sheikh, it was claimed.
The plane twice abruptly climbed nearly 3,000 feet in three seconds before falling 3,000 feet moments later in the final minutes before disappearing from radar, crashing in the Sinai peninsula with the loss of all 224 passengers and crew.
The news comes as US officials claim an American infra-red satellite detected a heat flash on the route the aircraft was taking seconds before the plane fell from the sky, suggesting there was some sort of explosion on board.
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This could be America suffering this loss.

Go Putin !
 

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It's all bullshit.

We should pull all of our military out of the Mideast. Every last weapon and soldier. It's just another tarbaby.

We got sucked into Korea, and did not win. North Korea is now one of the most dangerous countries on earth, thanks to us.

We got sucked into VN, flushed 58,ooo American troops down that toilet, and hauled ass out of the country. VN is now doing quite well all on their own.

We jumped into Iraq, destabilized the entire Mideast and created an opening for ISIS.

We need to get out. NOW. The Israeli crybabies can either learn to live with their neighbors or get flushed. I don't care.

Let those camel jockies kill each other all they like.

Politicians love war, because THEY don't have to serve, and the military-industrial complex lines their pockets.

Fuck 'em. No more war unless and until the USA is threatened.
 
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