Sad News today for Tony Dungy

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bdaniel1 said:
Oh, I see it, but I think everyone here jumped the gun on writing off this death based on some thug crap on his website when in reality he was a KID from a very rich family attending college obviously dealing with some serious personal issues.

At any rate, I think Tony D is as classy as anyone in professional sports and I find it truly heartbreaking that he lost his oldest son today.


And you say..........


Not following what difference it makes.

So because an 18 year old college student from an affluent family talked some "gangsta sh#t" on myspace.org we're lumping him in with Tookie?

Come on.


I guess you see way different then the rest of us...........how many sides of the fence can you be on?
 

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RollTide72 said:
Not "defending" what was said there, but you dont know for sure he wrote it do you? Im sure you dont act ANY different on here than you do in your real life, god forbid any of you guys get accused of anything and they go digging on here for some dirt. If that happens they will have us all!


Read any of the profiles of his friends, these kids have problems..............most of them are under 18 at that.................whats up with all the negitive chatter they have with each other, calling each other bitches, niggers, whores ..............click on any of their "friends link" on this site, its very disturbing
 

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Sportsaholic said:
And you say..........


Not following what difference it makes.

So because an 18 year old college student from an affluent family talked some "gangsta sh#t" on myspace.org we're lumping him in with Tookie?

Come on.


I guess you see way different then the rest of us...........how many sides of the fence can you be on?

How am I on both sides of this? I'm saying that yes, I don't think the gangsta rap genre is necessarily the healthiest thing for my kids to get into. However, I don't care of James Dungy dressed up like a gangsta or dressed up in drag - it's irrelevant to the fact that he commited suicide today, and its unfair for folks to generalize him as anything based on the "schtick" he played up.

Saying things like "good riddance" and "no love lost" when we're talking about an 18 year old kid's website (especially given what we know about his family) is pretty short-sided in my book.

At any rate, we'll agree to disagree - I just wanted to comment. I've got a Hawaii game to ponder.

Good night, all.
 

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Again, if you had read his web page you'd be hard pressed to defend what was said there..........

I read it this morning (actually I think I read if very shortly after it was discovered). Yeah, the hooded pic and the DC Sniper comment about crackas and all that was pretty dumb. But in the context of what we know about him (college student, affluent family, very admirable father, 18 years old) I'm much, much more inclined to write it up to rebellion/immaturity/stupidity/acting out versus the hate/violence/racism angle some are.

Again, this is a college kid from suburbia. This isn't a drop-out in Gary, Indiana with a long criminal record.

OK - I'm done. Pleasure debating with you, Sportsaholic.
 

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And no offense to Gary, Indiana. Only chose it based on the recent news regarding crime rate.
 

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Call me old fashion (and I could care less where your from and how much $$$$ you have) hate is hate, disrespect is disrespect, and its was all on this site (not just his page)............and the sooner people (parents) realize this and put their foot down kids are going to continue down this path........
 

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LETS STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS PUNK BECAUSE HE IS TONY DUNGYS SON THE KID WAS A HOODLEM.NORMAL PEOPLE JOKING OR NOT DONT GO AROUND SAYING SH-T LIKE THIS UNLESS ITS HOW THEY FEEL.EVERYBODY LIKES A PERSON AFTER THEY ARE DEAD SO PLEASE NO MORE EXCUSES MAYBE THE KID WAS JUST A BAD APPLE.I CANT BELIEVE SOME WHITE PEOPLE IF A BLACK GUY SAYS SOMETHING RACIST THEY ARE ONLY KIDDING BUT IF BEANTOWNJIM SAYS SOMETHING HE ISNT JOKING HE IS A RACIST.
 

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Sportsaholic said:
Call me old fashion (and I could care less where your from and how much $$$$ you have) hate is hate, disrespect is disrespect, and its was all on this site (not just his page)............and the sooner people (parents) realize this and put their foot down kids are going to continue down this path........

Old Fashioned.
 

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RollTide72 said:
Old Fashioned.

Well myfriend wait till you have kids(and if you do have kids I feel sorry for them) and tell me you want them to grow up and live in this situation........... The language that kids where using twards each other on this site was so disrespective I couldnt believe it..........Its hard to understand people on here defending it...........
 
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50 Murders a day in us.
83 Suicides a day in us.

I feel for all those families that lose loved ones, but he is no better then all these others above. If anything he had a choice where as 50 a day do not. Not happy the kid died just not sure why some of you show so much intrest in this story.
 

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sad news..if the kid took his own life he obviously had some problems.bad ass thugs take other peoples life not their own at 18.rip...superbowl,undefeated season dont mean so much avymore for mr.dungy.thats got to suck.
 

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Article from http://www.indystar.com

It talks about the myspace.com page

James Dungy was both full of faith and deeply troubledNeighbors say he had turned negative; others recall a happy, polite young man

By Mark Alesia
mark.alesia@indystar.com
LUTZ, Fla. -- In her apartment next door to where James Dungy lived, Sharltonya Weathers recalled her horror when she arrived home early Thursday morning after being at a club.


"When I saw the police and a neighbor told me he died, I fell to my knees," Weathers, 22, said Thursday night. "I asked God, 'Don't blame him.' Don't blame him because he was calling out."
From interviews with people in Tampa, conflicting views of James Dungy emerged. Some saw an extremely nice man who would pray in public. Others saw someone deeply troubled beneath the surface.
"When I first met him, he was a pretty cool guy, but after a while, he would always talk negative," said Shanda Walker, 26, Weathers' roommate. "After Thanksgiving break, we were talking about our families, and he said, (expletive) Thanksgiving. He never had anything good to say about his life."
Across the street from the gated apartment complex where Dungy lived, Sean Soufan, 38, saw a different side of Dungy. Soufan works as a cashier at a gas station and convenience store and said Dungy was a frequent customer.
Late Wednesday afternoon, Soufan said, Dungy bought water and snacks.
"He was so quiet, very nice," Soufan said. "He said he was going to go home for the holidays. He said goodbye and I'll see you in a couple of weeks. It was always him or him and his girlfriend."
After asking for an update about the circumstances of Dungy's death and being told authorities think it was a suicide, Soufan's voice turned sadder.
"Why is that?" he said. "He was here yesterday. He was normal."
Troubling Web site

A profile on a popular free Internet community under the name James Dungy, with a photo of the Indianapolis Colts coach's eldest son and apparent first-person narrative from him, told a different story.
The site contained pictures of handguns, marijuana, stacks of cash, gang signs and sexual positions. Heroes listed included "the D.C. Snipers." It could not be verified that the site was created by Dungy, and it was taken offline Thursday afternoon.
Many friends were shocked at the site, in which Dungy appeared wearing a bandana over his nose and mouth beside text condemning the police.
Jamie Marie Gonzalez, a high school senior in Tampa who said she had dated Dungy, said it was a front, the Tampa Tribune reported.
"I think he was trying to portray himself as being tough, but he was nothing like that," she wrote in an online exchange with a reporter. "Well, at least when we went out he wasn't . . . he was extremely sweet!"
Valerie Gonzalez, Jamie Marie's mother, echoed her daughter's thoughts.
"The boy went to church on Wednesdays, twice on Sundays, very polite," she told the Tribune. "He was a very nice young man."
"He was a great kid"

Zenon Andrusyshyn, the West Coast Florida area director for Fellowship of Christian Athletes, recalled James Dungy as an extremely friendly kid.
Dungy attended Fellowship of Christian Athletes meetings and camps many times while growing up.
Andrusyshyn said he had bumped into Dungy about a year ago when the teen was bagging groceries at an area grocery store, the Tribune reported. Dungy asked Andrusyshyn to pray with him for his grandfather's health. The two bowed their heads and prayed. It left an impression on Andrusyshyn.
"I thought that was remarkable for a young kid to ask if we could pray right there in the store," he said. "You realize this man was a sensitive man. He loved his family and his relatives. I just don't know what could have happened."
Weathers said Dungy had recently taken a job at a local mall.
Dungy attended Tampa's Gaither High School his junior year and played football. He returned two weeks ago to visit Gaither head coach Mark Kantor.
Kantor said he and Dungy talked about his dad and how the younger Dungy was glad to be back in Tampa, the Tribune reported. Kantor said Dungy seemed happy and never let on there were troubles.
"He met me in my office, and he didn't give me a handshake -- he gave me a hug. He was a great kid," Kantor said. "It's not only a sad day for this area, but a sad day in sports. The only thing I can do now is pray for his family."
In Tampa, where Tony Dungy coached the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for six years, there was an outpouring of support for Dungy's family.
A Christian radio station took calls during evening rush hour, praying and doing interviews about Dungy's death.
"A lot of the guys who are close to Tony understand he has faith, and that's the only thing that allows you to get through difficult times," said Doug Gilcrease, team chaplain for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
 

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beantownjim said:
I CANT BELIEVE SOME WHITE PEOPLE IF A BLACK GUY SAYS SOMETHING RACIST THEY ARE ONLY KIDDING BUT IF BEANTOWNJIM SAYS SOMETHING HE ISNT JOKING HE IS A RACIST.

:mj03: :sadwave: :mj03: there's actually a good point in there somewhere.
 

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feel bad for the coach but the only front it seems this kid had was portraying the church going front. i agree if this is not a high profile persons kid nobody cares also if he did commit suicide then hell with the coward cant stand people who do that kids dying in kids hospitals would give everything for what these retards throw away --their lives.
 

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I guess he told a bunch of his peeps his dad's team would go undefeated. They said no way, and he said, "I'd bet my life on it."

YYZ REMINDS ME ABOUT A GUY I WORK WITH WHO DOES NOTHING BUT LAUGHS AT HIS OWN STUPID JOKES. EVERYONE REALLY HATES HIM AND CALLS HIM A C-OCKSUCKER.

YOU CALL YOUR CRAP HEALING. I CALL IT BAD KARMA. YOU GOT KIDS? BETTER WATCH THEM CLOSE DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

FOR REAL, KARMA IS SOME STRANGE SHIT

I WISH U LUCK, CAUSE YOU REALLY SAY SOME F-UCKED UP SHIT IN HERE-ALOT

HIS SONS WEBSITE IS A FRONT , LIKE SO MANY TEENAGERS TODAY. I HAVE 2 GANGSTA NEPHEWS-ITS A FRONT, REALLY NICE KIDS. ITS TODAY CULTURE. BLAME THE MEDIA, BLAME MTV....IF YOU NOT DOWN WITH THE STYLE, YOUR NOT COOL. EVEN WHITE KIDS TRY TO BE GANSTAS-AND ITS FUNNY AS SHIT.

I BET DUNGY SON WAS LIKE ANY TYPICAL TEENAGER
 

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ferdville said:
If his dad was Tony Washington and not Tony Dungy, nobody would care that he committed suicide and everyone would agree that the world is better off without him.

You can certainly empathize with Tony because he appears to be such an outstanding guy. But that doesn't make his son a saint.

THAT COMMENT REMINDS ME OF SO MANY TIMES, WHEN A NON-WHITE KID IS MISSING OR MURDERED, THERE IS LITTLE TO NO NATIONAL NEWS COVERAGE. BUT BOY, IF ITS SOME WHITE KID, ITS ALL OVER THE WORLD MEDIA. THIS IS A RACIST, DOUBLE STANDARD SOCIETY WE LIVE IN AND IT WONT CHANGE ANYTIME SOON
 

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mcity said:
EVEN WHITE KIDS TRY TO BE GANSTAS-AND ITS FUNNY AS SHIT.


really....that is funny? :shrug:

YEAH ITS FUNNY. THATS WHY YOU SEE THE TV SHOWS WITH WHITE PEOPLE TRYING TO BE BLACK. EVEN VERIZON IS TRYING TO PORTRAY OLD PEOPLE AS BLACK, WITH THAT COMMERCIAL OF OLD PEOPLE DANCING-LIKE THAT OLD WHITE MAN TRYING TO GRIND THAT OLD LADY FROM BEHIND, THEN AN OLD LADY SAYING WITH BAD GRAMMAR "WHERE YOU AT"
 
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