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tonight`s corrales-fuller bout on espn2............do you have an opinion?... trying to get some input...fighting under corrales` promoter`s banner....very close to corrales` home in sacramento.....it appears all edges go to corrales....got under 8 at -135...
but,fuller is a boxer and a mover....a lefty to boot..has only fought outside of michigan 3 times and lost 2 of them.......regardless,8 full rounds seems like enough time for corrales to get the job done...unless,he is looking forward to spadafora or dorin....
any feelings(that is,if you aren`t posting this as one of your service plays).....
just trying to get some input....
btw....how`s the leg....hope everything is going well...
g.l.
fletch
tonight`s corrales-fuller bout on espn2............do you have an opinion?... trying to get some input...fighting under corrales` promoter`s banner....very close to corrales` home in sacramento.....it appears all edges go to corrales....got under 8 at -135...
but,fuller is a boxer and a mover....a lefty to boot..has only fought outside of michigan 3 times and lost 2 of them.......regardless,8 full rounds seems like enough time for corrales to get the job done...unless,he is looking forward to spadafora or dorin....
any feelings(that is,if you aren`t posting this as one of your service plays).....
just trying to get some input....
btw....how`s the leg....hope everything is going well...
g.l.
corrales should be able to take him out when he wants, just depends how much ring work he wants i say a few rounds of ring work then he goes in for the kill around 4-5th, does not want fight to last to long won't look good and also does not want to stand around taking shots he does not have to, if it goes past 6 i would say he was not ready to fight.
The leg is getting there just takes along time just finished up 3.5 months of rom pt, now have 6-8 months of strength traing pt started wen, very weak and hurts like hell but they do a great job. Just sucks being down so long.
The leg is getting there just takes along time just finished up 3.5 months of rom pt, now have 6-8 months of strength traing pt started wen, very weak and hurts like hell but they do a great job. Just sucks being down so long.
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fletcher
there is a problem over in the HPark1 thread and we are requesting your judgement and talents to settle a argument.
thanks
KOD
there is a problem over in the HPark1 thread and we are requesting your judgement and talents to settle a argument.
thanks
KOD
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HEY K.O.D.
I HAVE A HUNCH THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CHANCE THAT CORRALES COULD TAKE A DIVE TONIGHT. SOUNDS PRETTY SOLID RIGHT. SHOULD I LOAD UP ON IT?
BL
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fletcher
there is a example of what this guy BOXLOCKS is about.
Oh and this may be a good time to apologize for putting you on the desert island with RAYMOND and PP.........sorry
If yu could type the response to him in caps I would really thing that would be appropriate.
Thanking you in advance
KOD
I HAVE A HUNCH THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CHANCE THAT CORRALES COULD TAKE A DIVE TONIGHT. SOUNDS PRETTY SOLID RIGHT. SHOULD I LOAD UP ON IT?
BL
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fletcher
there is a example of what this guy BOXLOCKS is about.
Oh and this may be a good time to apologize for putting you on the desert island with RAYMOND and PP.........sorry
If yu could type the response to him in caps I would really thing that would be appropriate.
Thanking you in advance
KOD
after round 3 that fight would of been over in vegas that or really both cuts were bad , lewis would of gone down if not for the cuts and don't bitch it was one of the deepest cuts i ever saw and it split up across and had a split down the top part. it is going to take a lot to close that cut and it will be trouble from now on a cut like that so deep and tore not just cut tore will be tuff to keep thick skin over it might be a bleeder for good now. lewis was way out of shape and he got hit hard they both took a beating i just wanted a brawl and a ko under which we got and it was a great fight but know one better say fix was on or they do not know shit about boxing, trust me in nv over after 3 and it will take that torn eye it's not cut it is torn a very long time if ever to heal for boxing shape, might cut from now on like i said it was a rip or tear and that is the worse thing a fighter can have. not just like a straight across deep cut it was tore and tore deep and tearing more each time and it was a punch and he could not see i don't care what anyone says. this was a major rip of the eye and should of been stopped after the 3rd , they just made it worse for the long run. he would of never made the full fight with the eye but was ahead by 1 point in my eyes had first round a draw.
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totally disagree Eric, if they should stop the fight, it should have happened round 2.
I need to follow you as I congratulate you on knowing which way the fix happens.
Thats why I have not bet boxing for 30 years.
I got a call tonight, emphatically telling me to take the under. 10 minutes before the fight.
I need to follow you as I congratulate you on knowing which way the fix happens.
Thats why I have not bet boxing for 30 years.
I got a call tonight, emphatically telling me to take the under. 10 minutes before the fight.
when the cut happened it was only straight across deep but straight then in the 3rd it tore above the split, you had to give him on shot but not that long i was rooting for the ko and was hoping you hit the big + and when he had lewis ready to go if he would of gone after him harder i think lewis would of dropped when he was hrt. with out cut lewis was in trouble i don't care what he said in his interveiw after fight, he was in with a tuff man , but the cut saved him imo. but had to let him have one round when it was just straight across , but once it tore that could be a end to some fighters he will have major repair and a long healing process, have seen many guys never come back like the were when they had their eye ripped way different then a cut.
hurt watching them stick that damn q-tip in there.
hurt watching them stick that damn q-tip in there.
from what i saw
from what i saw
that cut was caused by an unintentional thumb.....that`s not the type of cut that comes from a regular punch....it looked like the type of jagged tear you would get when you caught your jeans jumping over a fence......those weren`t thumbless gloves...and even if the thumb is attached,if you catch a guy correctly,it can do severe damage....the punch landed with the inside of the glove...in a sort of torquing motion...
klitschko had swelling above and below the eye which also indicates a thumb....
shit happens....a great fight...klitschko fought courageously...
my main problem was the referee....why do you have a 6`5" guy and a 6`7" guy weighing a collective 500 plus pounds in with a 65 year old 5`8" referee weighing around 175 or 180....wtf are they thinking....both camps had to o.k. that .....stupid,stupid,stupid......
when moret broke them,he wasn`t strong enough to push them completely apart and give them enough room to completely reset....i was shocked at this glaring mistake....
that said,i thought it was a great,hard fought bout....not very technically sound...but,a real brawl...
both were tired,but,klitschko seemed to lose most of the power in his shots around the 4th.....he kept landing...but they weren`t affecting lennox as much as the fight wore on.....
could he have outlasted lennox sans the cut?....we`ll never know......
and that cut will be a problem over the rest of his career..not a stiches cut.....a platic surgery cut.....that`s ashamed....
a very good outing for klitscko....a no so hot outing for lennox..who looked slow and not sharp at all...the weight and the layoff almost cost him.....whomever wagered on lennox,take a deep breath.....you`ve got more balls than me....
from what i saw
that cut was caused by an unintentional thumb.....that`s not the type of cut that comes from a regular punch....it looked like the type of jagged tear you would get when you caught your jeans jumping over a fence......those weren`t thumbless gloves...and even if the thumb is attached,if you catch a guy correctly,it can do severe damage....the punch landed with the inside of the glove...in a sort of torquing motion...
klitschko had swelling above and below the eye which also indicates a thumb....
shit happens....a great fight...klitschko fought courageously...
my main problem was the referee....why do you have a 6`5" guy and a 6`7" guy weighing a collective 500 plus pounds in with a 65 year old 5`8" referee weighing around 175 or 180....wtf are they thinking....both camps had to o.k. that .....stupid,stupid,stupid......
when moret broke them,he wasn`t strong enough to push them completely apart and give them enough room to completely reset....i was shocked at this glaring mistake....
that said,i thought it was a great,hard fought bout....not very technically sound...but,a real brawl...
both were tired,but,klitschko seemed to lose most of the power in his shots around the 4th.....he kept landing...but they weren`t affecting lennox as much as the fight wore on.....
could he have outlasted lennox sans the cut?....we`ll never know......
and that cut will be a problem over the rest of his career..not a stiches cut.....a platic surgery cut.....that`s ashamed....
a very good outing for klitscko....a no so hot outing for lennox..who looked slow and not sharp at all...the weight and the layoff almost cost him.....whomever wagered on lennox,take a deep breath.....you`ve got more balls than me....
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Huge gash, thought it would be stopped sooner. I've seen plenty of fights stopped from lesser cuts. Really tough break for Klitchsko, as he came to fight and Lewis came to drink tea or something..whatever it was, it wasn't to fight. But can't question the stoppage. No holds barred/MMA fights are stopped once a cut like that opens.
it was the inside thumb part of glove that cause both the aboue and the below and i picked up the ref thing before fight but that is ca for you not a big fight state if it was here or atlantic city or ny you would of had the big refs that could move them away and what was up with the six or seven ribs shots lewis gave him in the 4th why ref was right beside him and lewis had other arm around the back of his head , he let it go all the way across the ring to the ropes. was not the ref for this fight.
Hoops
you called it in 6.
U must leave alot of winners behind.
I went with Lewis and the under.
KOD
you called it in 6.
U must leave alot of winners behind.
I went with Lewis and the under.
KOD
yes, the cut was ugly but...
yes, the cut was ugly but...
I think the fight could have gone on a little longer. After all, this is for the heavyweight championship of the world. Vitali may never have another chance -- especially since he beat the piss out of Lewis in the second round. If you've ever seen Arturo Gatti fight, you know that fighters have fought with far worse cuts. Half the time he's bleeding from both eyes and they are swollen shut with little slits. It was probably the right call...I just hope we get to see a rematch.
yes, the cut was ugly but...
I think the fight could have gone on a little longer. After all, this is for the heavyweight championship of the world. Vitali may never have another chance -- especially since he beat the piss out of Lewis in the second round. If you've ever seen Arturo Gatti fight, you know that fighters have fought with far worse cuts. Half the time he's bleeding from both eyes and they are swollen shut with little slits. It was probably the right call...I just hope we get to see a rematch.
I think we see 2 or 3 spin from this and it is what is good for boxing as i talked about but the will not be free hbo they will be 3 hbo ppv $$$$ for boxing lewis/jones which he will just eat alive in any shape jones won'tbe able to take a punch from a super hwt the lewis /little k will get his shot and get beat and lewis will disrespect the family name of the k brother's and by then big brother's eye will be ready and fight for family honer lewis /big k hbo and boxing would parlay this into a mint. If it's good for boxing that is what you see more then not. and they will be in vegas or atlantic city or the garden all big draws vegas will be for sure. People who control boxing are not stupid they are great money makers .
I will take to task anybody who says that Lennox would have dropped had it not been for the cut. Fletcher, you are spot on....Lennox was undertrained, and too heavy. The last time he done this, he got knocked out by Rahman, but that fight was at altitude in South Africa.
However, he took some big punches off Klitchsko, and was still there in the 6th. My own reckoning is that it is impossible to predict how the fight would have shaped out....I was really devestated when it was stopped, as I think we were all in for something special, although the cut was so bad, it should have been stopped in the third, when it was clear corners were having trouble stopping the bleeding.
My own private opinion is that Lennox would have gone on to win the fight, a lot of people forget how much Klitchsko was hanging on through those later rounds.
However Lennox handled that HBO interview completely in the wrong way. I really think the fact that the USA has not had its heavyweight title in America for so long showed in the interview. That Larry HBO guy went straight in there to attack Lennox, which showed a complete lack of respect for the heavyweight champion, and one of the greatest boxers of all time. However, I was disappointed to see that Lennox gave Klitchsko no credit, as a real man would have said that he was given a tough task in there last night.
It was a great fight which has done wonders for a piss poor Heavyweight division.
However, he took some big punches off Klitchsko, and was still there in the 6th. My own reckoning is that it is impossible to predict how the fight would have shaped out....I was really devestated when it was stopped, as I think we were all in for something special, although the cut was so bad, it should have been stopped in the third, when it was clear corners were having trouble stopping the bleeding.
My own private opinion is that Lennox would have gone on to win the fight, a lot of people forget how much Klitchsko was hanging on through those later rounds.
However Lennox handled that HBO interview completely in the wrong way. I really think the fact that the USA has not had its heavyweight title in America for so long showed in the interview. That Larry HBO guy went straight in there to attack Lennox, which showed a complete lack of respect for the heavyweight champion, and one of the greatest boxers of all time. However, I was disappointed to see that Lennox gave Klitchsko no credit, as a real man would have said that he was given a tough task in there last night.
It was a great fight which has done wonders for a piss poor Heavyweight division.
